78 Muslims suffocated to death by Thai Armed forces!

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I would like to know a single nation where they live in peace and harmony.
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You are an idiot for stereotyping. 78 people being suffocated is the governments fault, not the peoples who dieds fault. Who do you blame a murderer or the victim.

The Government of Thailand has been murdering people for decades now evidence is emerging of a systematic cover up in the form of lies and denials of the events of the past week in which 78 people where suffocated and murdered by the Thai armed forces!

BANGKOK, Oct 28 (IPS) - The Thai government’s credibility among the country’s Muslim minority has taken a nosedive thanks to the cavalier approach Bangkok has adopted in explaining the deaths of 78 men and boys while in military custody.

Outraged Muslim leaders have dismissed the defiant stance of Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, who sought to deflect blame away from security forces for the manner in which these Thais died on Monday after troops opened fire on the demonstrators.

‘‘We don’t believe the government’s version of events,’’ the usually moderate Niti Hassan, president of the Council of Muslim Organisations of Thailand, told IPS. ‘‘The people in the south are not satisfied with what the government is saying because they know what happened.’’

Nideh Waba, chairman of a private religious schools association in Thailand’s predominantly Muslim southern provinces, was as critical.** ‘‘They (the government) have to kill thousands of us or hundreds of thousands of our brothers here to prevent us from standing up against this massacre,’’** he was quoted as having told the ‘Bangkok Post’ newspaper on Wednesday.

**1.**Prime Minister Thaksin, however, blamed the suffocation on the Muslim protesters being exhausted due to the fast they were observing in the two-week old Islamic holy month of Ramadan.

**2.**Then he pointed the finger at drugs - saying that the arrested protesters were in a ‘‘drug-induced state.’’

**3.**By Thursday, Bangkok was still holding on to the view that the military remained blameless, although with a slight hint of regret. ‘‘It was a tragic incident, but we would like to point out that the military did their best to exercise self-restraint and did not use force during the demonstrations,’’ Sihasak Phuangketkeow, foreign ministry spokesman, told IPS.

But television footage, photographs appearing in local newspapers and eyewitness accounts are shredding the portrait of innocent Thai soldiers that Bangkok has been determined to project.

Television images flashed across the world have revealed scenes of uniformed soldiers ramming rifle-butts into the heads of protesters, forced to lie on the ground. Plainclothes policemen were also filmed kicking protesters repeatedly as they lay unconscious.

And Thursday’s edition of ‘The Nation,’ an English-language daily here, ran a photo on its front page that contradicted the government’s explanation that troops did not fire into the crowd of some 2,000 Muslim protesters on Monday.

The picture showed soldiers stretched on the ground firing at the protesters at body- level rather than into the air.

**One reporter at the scene was quoted in ‘The Nation’ saying: ‘‘Soldiers fired at below knee-level, targeting protesters hiding under a car. They were killed and thrown onto army trucks. There were at least 14 dead bodies that I could count.’’

Another reporter told the paper: ‘‘I saw at least three protesters kicked to death with my own eyes.’’**

A respected forensic expert, Pornthip Rojanasunan, has not made it easy on the government either after declaring on Tuesday that nearly 80 percent of the men who died had no open wounds and could have succumbed due to a lack of air.

‘‘It wasn’t a case of not enough air to breathe,’’ Pornthip was quoted in a ‘Reuters’ report. ‘‘But they might have had something stuffed in their mouths or nostrils.’’

‘‘Muslim anger is understandable; what happened is terrible,’’ Jaran Ditapichai, a member of Thailand’s National Human Rights Commission, said in an interview. ‘‘Only some of the details of the government’s story can be believed.’’
Muslim Leaders Doubt Official Version of Killings

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tahi ppl will regret this crime of their against the muslims...inshalalh either in this world or in the hereafter allah will punish them a punishment befitting their barbaric crime....
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You're really looking forward to some beheadings and suicide bombings with a "Thai flavor" eh Thandy my boy?
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I'm pretty sure its funny when u know ppl have died be it muslim or not and the news has been aired for 10 sec on ur CNN channels, but I dont even think you do use news channels.
Besides ur sick and ignorant comment, what else u have to tell us about the same amount of ppl dyin in US n A n being US citizens. I'm pretty sure u be the first to come here whining around!!

I know Muslim blood is cheap for you and unfortunately you r not the only one!

I think the Thai govt has reacted in extreme foolish and short sighted manner history will tell you that muslims will come back in strength after such a massacare.
if a tiny chechnya can take on a superpower? if a small town of falluja can take on a superpower iam sorry there are bloody days ahead for thailand

kabir, tell me why muslims develope separatist tendencies? As a matter of fact if majority community really tortures the minority a traditional migration takes place?

any example of Muslims migrations? though I can give you many examples when minority section automatically migrates from Muslim majority areas.

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kabir, tell me why muslims develope separatist tendencies?
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Just ask your self why the Thai had such annexation tedencies?

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kabir, tell me why muslims develope separatist tendencies? As a matter of fact if majority community really tortures the minority a traditional migration takes place?

any example of Muslims migrations? though I can give you many examples when minority section automatically migrates from Muslim majority areas.
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So that means in worlds history there have been ONLY and ONLY Muslim seperatists and Rebels.
VERY INTERESTING, when I considering the fact that Islam (scientifically speakin!) finds its roots from 14xx!
Whats next?! Tamil Tigers linked to Al Qaida?!

^ Just ask these tunnel vision pundit gees to count how many speratist movements there are in India he would be all day counting them!

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^ Just ask these tunnel vision pundit gees to count how many speratist movements there are in India he would be all day counting them!
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this has happening for the last 3000 years so what is new?but we have the ability to hndle all opposing elements from within and outside

^ oh really kashmir, the infamous operation blue star, etc etc and the list goes on is handling them well you know and the whole region know once kashmir or one of the other states seeking independence from india seperates india will fall apart like a broken window one province after the other!

By the way not to distract this topic is about the masscre in thailand so we should be discussing this topic instead of india or any other region!

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this has happening for the last 3000 years so what is new?but we have the ability to hndle all opposing elements from within and outside
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One is hyped up by the Media the other is hidden or even ignored. Must be a hard choice which to choose from...

Everyone has ignored the main issue very smartly.
If authorities, militia and majority section harass and torture Muslims, as a natural phenomenon Muslims must migrate, run away from those areas. But it has happened very rare; on the other hand minorities always migrate from the places wherever Muslims are in majority. Thailand is not an exception.

And dear AK, you had only one separatist movement ended successfully. I can only congratulate you. Keep it up!

anjaan your hatred for all things islamic has no limt!

Keep on hating it shows your true colors everytime 78 people suffocated to death and all you can say is oh it must be there fault because thier muslim how dumb can you get, such a niave comment!

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anjaan your hatred for all things islamic has no limt!
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Left with zero arguments, this is the only trumpard card they have.

the only argument left is in the language of the bullet....

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Left with zero arguments, this is the only trumpard card they have.
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Hmmmm you conveniently forgot to paste rest of my post here i'll do it for you

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Keep on hating it shows your true colors everytime 78 people suffocated to death and all you can say is oh it must be there fault because thier muslim how dumb can you get, such a niave comment!
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So 78 people suffocated to death and whose fault is it?

have another go!

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Everyone has ignored the main issue very smartly.
If authorities, militia and majority section harass and torture Muslims, as a natural phenomenon Muslims must migrate, run away from those areas. But it has happened very rare; on the other hand minorities always migrate from the places wherever Muslims are in majority. Thailand is not an exception.

And dear AK, you had only one separatist movement ended successfully. I can only congratulate you. Keep it up!
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Baseless statements don't have value here, feel pride that AK has respond to your fiction.

Ali & Ak, I will be very happy if you proove me wrong!

Everyone has ignored the main issue very smartly.
If authorities, militia and majority section harass and torture Muslims, as a natural phenomenon Muslims must migrate, run away from those areas. But it has happened very rare; on the other hand minorities always migrate from the places wherever Muslims are in majority. Thailand is not an exception.

Muslims must run away hmmm so if there is a wrong the answer is to run away like chickens what if people can’t go no where have you ever thought about that they have no choice but to stand thier ground and fight for thier rights! :konfused:

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Muslims must run away hmmm so if there is a wrong the answer is to run away like chickens what if people can't go no where have you ever thought about that they have no choice but to stand thier ground and fight for thier rights!
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AK, Thailand and China are new entrants.

From East Pakistan at least 10 million Muslims fled, could not stand the torture of Pak army, (1970-71).
Kashmir, your press blames Indian army for the same torture against Muslims. Who has fled? For some magic reasons only Hindus have fled.
You can pickup any area of your choice. But I do not know if reasoning can help you. We cannot wake a person who is pretending to sleep.
What is your next trump card? Stick to the topic!