58 Year Anniversary of Hiroshima

Since this comes up so often, I thought I would post an editorial regarding the only use of nuclear weapons. Kristof is no Neocon, his views are generally in line with the left. His views of the history of the bombings, particularly the views of Japanese historians is very enlightening:

Blood on Our Hands?
By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF

Tomorrow will mark the anniversary of one of the most morally contentious events of the 20th century, the atomic bombing of Hiroshima. And after 58 years, there’s an emerging consensus: we Americans have blood on our hands.

There has been a chorus here and abroad that the U.S. has little moral standing on the issue of weapons of mass destruction because we were the first to use the atomic bomb. As Nelson Mandela said of Americans in a speech on Jan. 31, “Because they decided to kill innocent people in Japan, who are still suffering from that, who are they now to pretend that they are the policeman of the world?”

The traditional American position, that our intention in dropping the bombs on Hiroshima and then Nagasaki was to end the war early and save lives, has been poked full of holes. Revisionist historians like Gar Alperovitz argue persuasively that Washington believed the bombing militarily unnecessary (except to establish American primacy in the postwar order) because, as the U.S. Strategic Bombing Survey put it in 1946, “in all probability” Japan would have surrendered even without the atomic bombs.

Yet this emerging consensus is, I think, profoundly mistaken.

While American scholarship has undercut the U.S. moral position, Japanese historical research has bolstered it. The Japanese scholarship, by historians like Sadao Asada of Doshisha University in Kyoto, notes that Japanese wartime leaders who favored surrender saw their salvation in the atomic bombing. The Japanese military was steadfastly refusing to give up, so the peace faction seized upon the bombing as a new argument to force surrender.

“We of the peace party were assisted by the atomic bomb in our endeavor to end the war,” Koichi Kido, one of Emperor Hirohito’s closest aides, said later.

Wartime records and memoirs show that the emperor and some of his aides wanted to end the war by summer 1945. But they were vacillating and couldn’t prevail over a military that was determined to keep going even if that meant, as a navy official urged at one meeting, “sacrificing 20 million Japanese lives.”

The atomic bombings broke this political stalemate and were thus described by Mitsumasa Yonai, the navy minister at the time, as a “gift from heaven.”

Without the atomic bombings, Japan would have continued fighting by inertia. This would have meant more firebombing of Japanese cities and a ground invasion, planned for November 1945, of the main Japanese islands. The fighting over the small, sparsely populated islands of Okinawa had killed 14,000 Americans and 200,000 Japanese, and in the main islands the toll would have run into the millions.

“The atomic bomb was a golden opportunity given by heaven for Japan to end the war,” Hisatsune Sakomizu, the chief cabinet secretary in 1945, said later.

Some argue that the U.S. could have demonstrated the bomb on an uninhabited island, or could have encouraged surrender by promising that Japan could keep its emperor. Yes, perhaps, and we should have tried. We could also have waited longer before dropping the second bomb, on Nagasaki.

But, sadly, the record suggests that restraint would not have worked. The Japanese military ferociously resisted surrender even after two atomic bombings on major cities, even after Soviet entry into the war, even when it expected another atomic bomb — on Tokyo.

One of the great tales of World War II concerns an American fighter pilot named Marcus McDilda who was shot down on Aug. 8 and brutally interrogated about the atomic bombs. He knew nothing, but under torture he “confessed” that the U.S. had 100 more nuclear weapons and planned to destroy Tokyo “in the next few days.” The war minister informed the cabinet of this grim news — but still adamantly opposed surrender. In the aftermath of the atomic bombing, the emperor and peace faction finally insisted on surrender and were able to prevail.

It feels unseemly to defend the vaporizing of two cities, events that are regarded in some quarters as among the most monstrous acts of the 20th century. But we owe it to history to appreciate that the greatest tragedy of Hiroshima was not that so many people were incinerated in an instant, but that in a complex and brutal world, the alternatives were worse.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/05/opinion/05KRIS.html

The Okinawa casualties figures given in the article in fact overlook the fact that nearly 100,000 of the Japanese who died on Okinawa were civilians... the civilian toll would have been dramatically higher.

In fact, Commander Mitsuo Fuchida, the Japanese bomber pilot who led the attack on Pearl Harbour later praised the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, stating that without those attacks, Japan's civilians population, including women and children, would have taken up any and all arms against the Americans and thus have been decimated.

Fuchida remained convinced until his death that the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki saved the lives of more Japanese than it took. The Japanese government had until then been arguing that it would be better for the entire Japanese race to be wiped out in battle down to the last child than to accept defeat in war.

Ahh the good old days!

An enemy with honor. The Japanese took a lickin' and kept on tickin'. They know they started the war. They know how ruthless, violent and evil they had become.

They never searched for the "root causes" of furious American retaliation. They knew damn well why they were gettin' whupped. These were extraordinary times,
as enemies raced toward nuclear capability. It was a huge conflict-truly a world war.
Extraordinarily tragic things took place during this war, including the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings. Here's one for you:

Had the wise and benevolent U.S. not been the WW2 power to posess and ultimately end the war with these WMDs, would we have seen further use of them over the last 58 years?

I think there would have been.

Ah the psuedo military historians. So easy for you all to state that 100 lives saved so many more. I wonder how many of you would be so logical when your families were in such a position.

The US was morally wrong in the bombing. Its a statement of reality. I wonder what the US would have said if the tables were turned and the Japanese bombed LA and SF to end the war.

Why do Americans feel the need to justify acts of unimagineable violence? Nuking the japs won the war and that's all there is to it. Moralising the act of incinerating whole cities and every man woman and child that lived there is ridiculous and unnecessary. Better just to relegate it to history, times have moved on and attitude have changed.

^ Tell that to the Afghani's and the Iraqi's.

Anyway, what need is there to justfy nuking the Japs...they were a bunch of evil gooks, isn't that reason enough?

Overkill though in my opinion, all the US had to do was stop exporting wood to them and they would have all died of starvation in less than a month through lack of chopsticks.