5 years to win this War

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Although one can disagree with some of NAjam Sethi points.He is leftist but here he gave wonderful view of all this happening in Pakistan. He said ..we need about 4 or 5 years to get rid of this cancer.Have a wonderful show with Dr.Moeed Pirzada. Najam Sethi has left Daily Times because he started criticizing PPP policies and Salman Taseer , the owner, cannot afford it.He is now Consultant with Dunya TV and Editor-in-Chief of weekly Friday Times. One can see the depth of this problem as its not easy to fight such a difficult war where enemy is ehind curtains and kill innocents to pressurize.

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Najam Sethi**

Najam Sethi, an award winning Pakistani journalist, editor, and media personality, is the editor-in-chief of The Friday Times, a Lahore based political weekly.Sethi and his publications have been in conflict with Pakistani governments on several occasions. In May 1999 he was imprisoned for one month without trial and released after an international outcry. Sethi had hoped that Musharraf would reform state and society as pledged and became critical when he didnt.

His wife, Jugnu Mohsin, edits the fashion fortnightly Good Times and is the managing editor and publisher of The Friday Times. Sethi was educated at Government College Lahore ,later at Clare College, Cambridge. Mohsin was educated at New Hall Cambridge. Together, Najam and Jugnu have a son, Ali, a graduate of Harvard College, and a daughter, Mira, who is a junior at Wellesley College.

Foreign Policy magazine describes Najam Sethi, the editor of Friday Times, as “ one of the country’s most respected political analysts

Dr.Moeed Pirzada

Dr. Pirzada has studied International Relations at the School of International Affairs, Columbia University, New York and studied Media & Internet law at London School of Economics, where he was a Britannia Chevening Scholar with the British Foreign and Commonwealth Office.

A medical doctor by profession, Dr. Pirzada has also been a columnist for leading Pakistani newspapers such as The Dawn and The News. In Pakistan he worked with Central Superior Services (CSS) and was awarded for meritorious services by the Federal government in 1998.

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  1. Looking at all insurgencies of classical era and most importantly of recent era like Kashmir (700,000 indian forces) , Nixel , Chatisgarh , Naga Land, Manipur , Srilanka-Tamil Tigers , British-IRA etc , they required decades to come over.Most of them are still going on way.Kashmir insurgency is 95% stopped due to Pakistan closing camps and stop sending militants etc .Sri Lanka too is quite successfulat this time after 20 years .So time is most important factor and things boil down with time , not in moths and years.

  2. Tribal Area is known as most difficult mountanous region of the world and people here are well trained from 1979-2001 for biggest guerilla wars which is not as equal to Pak Army made for plains and conventioanl warfare against India.So Bajaur is an example where we have lost about 300+ but atleast captured it after 1 year of furious battle fight.A month ago i have posted video of Colonel who lost his leg in this fight.

3.Yesterday two terrorists captured from Hyderabad Sindh and TV showed nails bags , detonators, wires, and jihaadi literature.Camera specifically focused on some past Hafiz Saeed Lashkra-i-Tayyaba speech posters means Lashkra-i-Tayyaba too is somehow involved after they are now ' Idle' as Kashmir border is tightly secured and all leadership in jail and whole organization is banned.

  1. Swat Deal will ultimately break as we all know and even Kiyani admitted it when he met top journalists a month ago and they said to him it will not succeed and he remained quiet but said that Armed Forces are ready if Swat destable once more.A signal that this time massive operation would go on and no 'Leniency'from NWFP government as they did in prevoius operation.People will too support as if after Nifaz-e-Adl someone make hanky panky, Army have justification to eradicate it thistime.Today 7 security jawans are missing in Swat.

5.US and NATO is fighting a war which they have lost already.Afghan from 3000 years history fight with each other but became unite when ever any usurper come from outside.Its not war of Islam , its matter of thier land being captured by Oppressors and they all attack Pakistan Army and Civilians of Pakistan as we are helping US and NATO in making thier land hostage by foreign forces

6.Pakistan population 95% totally reject Taliban Ideology and terror tactics by killing civilians that why Buner people resisted when Swat talibans try to enter into thier region.

  1. Tajiks, Uzbeks Afghans, and most importantly Al-Qaeda Arabs are main planner of attacks on Army and Civilians as Pakistan helped US in overthrowing thier Terror-Network of Afghnaistan from where they attacked in 9/11 , Nairobi , Yemen , Tanzania etc.Arab and Pakhtoon culture revolves around Revenge not Islam so they are taking revenge from us.

Last but not the least, its take time to overcome this problem.They hide behind people, make human shiels, kill innocents dont directly fight so its take time for Army prepared for Conventional War to fight.

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Dunya Today - 5 April 2009 | pkpolitics.com

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Editorial: Counter-terrorism in a divided land

Najam Sethi

The suicide-bomber who killed eight Frontier Constabulary men on Margalla Road in Islamabad two days ago was successful because the man appointed as guard in the camp thought he could leave his post during meals. In 2008, the truck that blew up the Marriott Hotel in Islamabad had taken the heavily guarded “high-security” Margalla Road because the security force stationed there thought it could leave its positions to break the Ramadan fast. In both cases the force knew that an attack was imminent.

The state can multiply the police force manifold but unless the quality of its recruits is raised, counter-terrorism strategy will be a failure. Pakistan can get any amount of money if it wants to raise the quality of its security forces through better salaries and higher educational qualification. In Lahore at Manawan the police recruits said that they were not even properly fed during training. Only an educated and “rational” security person will know that he can’t leave his post during meals and that his religion allows him relaxation of namaz and fasting during a life-and-death emergency.

Today the fact is that Baitullah Mehsud can attack a Friday congregation in a mosque and still be trusted as a “good Muslim” by sections of the population and media but the security forces cannot be relied upon to prevent their faith from becoming an impediment in the fight against terrorism. When Baitullah Mehsud says he has not done a certain act of terrorism, he is believed, adding to the deception and savagery of the violence done in the name of Islam. The latest proof of his strategy of false propaganda came when he claimed the killing of 13 innocent people at a New York immigration centre this week. The killer was in fact a Vietnamese.

It has been observed in the wake of 9/11 that Muslim terrorists find it easier and strategically useful to attack and kill Muslims. Mounting a terrorist attack in the US after 2001 and in the UK after 2005 has been difficult. Attempts made by Al Qaeda since then have been unsuccessful although the terrorists succeeded in coming to Pakistan and taking their training and indoctrination here. Killing Muslims in Muslim lands produces sympathy rather than fear and loathing. Fundamentally it is public fear and loathing which leads to better counter-terrorism efforts. This has been proved by unsuccessful Al Qaeda attempts in the US, Europe and Russia.

As terror becomes widespread in Pakistan — another incident happened Saturday when some JUI activists closed down a dancing event in Larkana, and on Sunday morning at an Imam Bargah in Chakwal — sympathy for the terrorists has arisen in Lahore instead of declining. Sympathetic terrorist incidents aimed at closing down theatres and music shops have increased. The video showing the lashing of a 17-year-old girl has united civil society but divided the media and the intelligentsia. At least two leading journalists of a major newspaper group have illustrated the dilemma of a nation trapped in terrorism it can’t clearly define in moral terms.

Reacting to the Pakistan-wide condemnation of the Swat Taliban, the chief reporter [Ansar Abbasi] of the said group warned that the nation was “thinking like America” and referred to Sura Nisa to prove that the whipping punishment meted out in Swat was right. By ignoring the question of “authority” — a fundamental condition under Islam — he asked the nation to accept the legal status of whoever it was who ordered the whipping. Another TV anchor[Dr.Shahid Masood] who does a popular “monologue” programme pointed out that the Swat whipping had brought the “humanist-Islamic” divide in Pakistan. A pro-Taliban leader in Swat also said on TV that the “roshan khayal” (enlightened) elements of the country were aligned with America and their NGOs were leading the assault against Islamic values.

Despite the nation-wide condemnation, the whipping incident is gradually becoming victim of the national division over terrorism. Are we being killed because we are fighting America’s war; or are we dying because the terrorists want to take over the country? The media is heavily tilted along with the opposition politicians in favour of the first cause. Civil society is being heavily influenced by the TV channels and is becoming vulnerable to the rhetoric of retired army officers who say terrorism can’t be fought and the correct policy is to fight the Americans out of Afghanistan instead of fighting Al Qaeda and the Taliban out of Pakistan.

Terrorism has to be fought, if not as terrorism than as a law and order problem. If the state wants to survive it must raise a strong security force that will face the terrorists and lay down the law.

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So are these idiots being punished for their 'assumptions' that they can do? or were they just paid off, threatened, or in on it.

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Nobody can stop suicidal attacks not even Israel unless we build a wall what Isarel did but Israel area in even smaller than Lahore , its impossible