Re: 4th Test - Eng vs Pak - Oval, 17th-21st Aug.
We better not hav play tommorow now, because the chances of us winning the match r pretty much done.
Re: 4th Test - Eng vs Pak - Oval, 17th-21st Aug.
Billy doesn think deres much chance of play 2mrw!
Re: 4th Test - Eng vs Pak - Oval, 17th-21st Aug.
omg, bbc news r talking of punishment 4 pak 4 starting dis whole thing off
Re: 4th Test - Eng vs Pak - Oval, 17th-21st Aug.
If Pakistan were really only 'delaying' it, they should have handled it properly without allowing Hair the opportunity to end the game.
Now the whole controversy has shifted to his decision on 'ending' the match (in which he was right, though hasty and mischieveous), rather than on his accusation of ball tampering. We SHOULD not have put control of the situation in Hair's hands.
Pakistan should have either:
(1) Forfeited the match, by clearly stating that they are accepting the loss as a protest, and that would have put attention on the ball tampering accusation itself
(2) Delaying the start, but making sure that Hair cannot use the situation to confuse everything, muddy the procedings, and call off the match. This has led to all sorts of confusion, and it has become an issue of 'whether the game can be restarted after Hair has called it off' RATHER THAN 'whether Hair was right in calling us cheats with no evidence to back it up.
(3) Going on with the game, and protesting afterwards, although I didn't favor this.
Pakistan have handled the situation badly by allowing Hair to take control of the situation. That ******* was also quick to call off the game that shows his 'penchant' for being in power, taking control and being a total dcik in general.
Re: 4th Test - Eng vs Pak - Oval, 17th-21st Aug.
Options on the table
Match forfeit. England win / pak lose. EOS
Match referee puts his foot down and says, game goes on. We'll play with different umpires.
Re: 4th Test - Eng vs Pak - Oval, 17th-21st Aug.
ahhh...BBC is simply unbelievable..........they are putting all the blame on Pak......
well, i am glad that this drama took place because it has exposed hair.....I am proud of pakistani team who took a stand.....that is what we need to do as a nation......who cares if we lose this test match..it is our national ego and honor that is more important than anything else.....we will compromise but not at the cost of national ego.....we have been called cheaters without any proof. why?
i truly hope that paksitani management will not strike a compromise tomorrow that will embarass us. we should not offer any apologetic statement whatsover and NO TRUCE WITH HAIR. He need to come out and officiate the match - Period.
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The BBC anchors are trying to make people talk about Hair vs Pak. Shehryar Khan answered the question very diplomatically. But this other guy from Radio Pakistan is bleeding his heart out hating on Hair
Re: 4th Test - Eng vs Pak - Oval, 17th-21st Aug.
You think BBC is bad? You need to check out Sky News 
The only team that has commented fairly has been Sky Sports commentry team.
Go pakistan 
Re: 4th Test - Eng vs Pak - Oval, 17th-21st Aug.
inzi is at the meeting 2!
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I wonder what he would be saying:( or more importantly how he will be saying..
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem
First of all Thanks to Allah... boys played very well... positive cricket ... hair no play but negative. we no want Hair.. no no no hair on head .. no hair umpire...
Re: 4th Test - Eng vs Pak - Oval, 17th-21st Aug.
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem First of all Thanks to Allah... boys played very well... positive cricket ... hair no play but negative. we no want Hair.. no no no hair on head .. no hair umpire...
hah,.....U FUNNY COW
Re: 4th Test - Eng vs Pak - Oval, 17th-21st Aug.
I think Match referee really blew it up. He should ahve immediately taken control of the situation at tea knkowing it was a sensitive issue. That's what he gets paid for. He's been very 'passive' in handling the situation and really is one of the biggest culprit for allowing situation to become this complex.
Re: 4th Test - Eng vs Pak - Oval, 17th-21st Aug.
Re: 4th Test - Eng vs Pak - Oval, 17th-21st Aug.
Option 3. Play resumes on Day 5. Pakistan team all show up clean shaven bald.
Reason?
We hate Hair!
Re: 4th Test - Eng vs Pak - Oval, 17th-21st Aug.
Reason?
We hate Hair!
hahaha
Re: 4th Test - Eng vs Pak - Oval, 17th-21st Aug.
Darrell Hair.. man.. what a ** idiot! racist **.
Poor management. Absolutely poor management by the English (not the team, nor the fans, but those managing the match). First the umpires make a false accusation. Then they (including the match referee) fail to support the accusation with evidence. Then they fail to deliver a statement to the public, leaving almost all of the ticket-holders/fans at the game clueless of the situation, who (the fans) then, in turn, show their ignorance by booing at the Pakistani team as they return back on to the field. And, just before this last incident (with the fans), we have the same stupid umpire coming onto the field, showing stupid publicity stunts, who then knocks off the stumps (which means that the game has ended, even though officials have not commented on it). Not to forget, that the rules & regulation of International Test Cricket state clearly that 'the umpire(s) can only award the match to the other team (i.e. knocking off of stumps), if the first team (Pakistan) refuses to return back to field'. However, the rule also implies that 'a team (in this case, Pakistan) is allowed to protest a claim'. Pakistan never refused to return back to the field, as Sheryar Khan (Chairman of PCB) pointed out, but only waited a few minutes in protest, and also signalled from the dressing-room that they will be returning shortly.
*bhaijaan we're all as angry are you are but please refrain from swearing. especially when you have a Quranic Ayat in your siganture.
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Cheetaaay, oyaay control yaar..
Interestings comments from Cricino,., btw, Botham was at Pakistan side.. ( is he on drugs!!!)
6.40pm Stumps Well, that’s been a most extraordinary day., with the outcome of this match thrown into utter doubt after Umpire Hair changed the ball in the 56th over of England’s innings, unhappy with its condition and then Pakistan staged a protest after tea, refusing to come back on to the pitch at first.
Do check our match cluster to read in-depth pieces on the events, and scroll down to find out what happened. It’s been utter chaos at the Oval and we’re still not even sure whether the game will go ahead tomorrow, but you can find out on the site shortly after the ICC concludes its crisis meeting.
Thanks for joining us today… and we will hope to be back with you tomorrow.
6.32pm Bob Woolmer has just announced: “The team is upset by the inference they have been accused of tampering with the ball and therefore cheating. It is a no-win situation as the umpires refuse to come out.”
6.30pm The ECB have just announced that the ICC have told them that meetings will be held immediately after play to determine whether the match will go ahead tomorrow. We’ll obviously bring you that news as soon as we have it.
6.15pm Play has been officially called off for the day, according to Sky. That leaves open the possibility that there will be cricket tomorrow. That all needs to be confirmed and hopefully we’ll have that news for you shortly.
6.05pm According to Sky, the fourth umpire has just informed the teams that there will be no more play today.
Just a little extra from the bemused ECB spokesperson. “It’s certainly nothing to do with the spirit between the teams. That much I can tell you. Just like the rest of us, they are sat there in astonishment waiting for someone to tell us what’s happening.”
6.00pm An ECB spokesperson has just said: “It’s entirely a matter for the ICC and the PCB. England’s batsmen were out there and all ready to resume playing.” They are going to sit tight and wait for someone to make a decision. For obvious reasons, ie it’s not really anything to do with them, the England camp won’t be making any further statements on this situation at the moment.
5.50pm “We are hurt and we are disappointed,” says Shahrayar Khan, “and we are registering our complaints through the relevant channels.”
He also added this, on Sky: “We have indicated very clearly that we can go out and play, in fact the boys came out and that we want the Test match to continue. We want this issue to be finished and resolved. We want the umpires to come out. We have indicated we are ready to come on to the field and play.”
About the incident earlier he had this to say: “Nobody was consulted and nobody was told that something was wrong with the ball and they felt deeply aggrieved for the country and for the fans. They said that we want to register a protest and they felt that they could do it by just waiting a few minutes. And then we were ready to come out and we felt it was extraordinary that we were ready to come out and the umpires say they are not. It’s very sad that this has come to pass.”
He added further: “I hope the match can continue. It’s bad light but even if we can continue for half an hour, that would be good.”
Looking ahead, whether this would affect the one-dayers, Khan didn’t say. “I don’t know what’s going to happen in the future. We have absolutely no complaint with the English board. We have very good relations and atmosphere, the spirit of this series has been excellent. If this match is abandoned it wont be because of the English board or the team it will be because of an incident that has been brought to the fore by the umpires.”
Nasser Hussain added this: “The problem is the conflict with the boards and the ICC. This is an ICC matter. The ICC and the umpires are the ones that are supposed to be running this game of cricket. Who is in charge of this game?”
5.45pm No individual has been accused, by the way; Cricinfo have been told by sources inside the Pakistan camp.
5.40pmAt last there’s an announcement over the tannoy for the crowds.
Meanwhile, Mike Atherton’s opinions on Sky are scathing of Darrell Hair, saying his decision lacks any historical context and that they lacked common sense. “It’s bound to inflame things. It would have been best to leave it to the end of the day. He’s not a man to back down. He’s a stubborn character, a strong character.. so even though Pakistan said they were willing to come back out [after the bails removal/apparent forfeiture] you could imagine him sitting in the dressing room refusing to come out.”
5.32pm It gets more bizarre. Pakistan are now walking off as the umpires aren’t coming out.
“It sums up the ICC for me,” says Nasser Hussain on Sky. “They talk about irrelevant things. You’ve got a major sporting issue here at The Oval, surely Mike Procter sits down with the main people and says, “Right what’s going on?” Do it behind the scenes and get a decision made and this would stop all these ridiculous scenes of players going up and down stairs.”
There are press cameraman loitering at the bottom of the steps capturing these extraordinary scenes, and who can blame them. These photos will be making the backpages tomorrow for sure.
Some people aren’t hanging around - fed up with the nonsense, spectators are starting to leave.
Andrew McGlashan has just had a call from a friend at the ground who confirms that none of the spectators has been told anything about what is going on.
5.30pm Boos from the crowd as Pakistan take to the field. The crowd haven’t been kept informed of what’s been happening, but it’sgood that Pakistan are on.
Darrell Hair is now saying that if Pakistan take the field, he won’t.
It’s all very sad, and very messy.
5.27pm A ha, the Pakistan team have spoken with Mike Procter, the match referee, and have apparently confirmed that they will take the field. But, oh dear, the light has deteriorated so the England batsmen could take the light if they go back on the field. This is a complete farce of Carry On proportions, but without the humour.
5.25pm In a further surprising twist, the covers are now coming off and that’s greeted by a huge cheer. But the stumps have still not been replaced. Whatever it is, it’s a mess.
5.20pm Here’s what Andrew Miller has for us. “The issue would seem to boil down to evidence. Has Darrell Hair got any proof that the Pakistanis were tampering with the ball? Did he see a specific player scratch at the seam, or did he take a look at a ball that is 55 overs old and draw his own conclusions? As Ian Botham has just said on Sky Sports, it’s a matter of honour to the Pakistanis. If Hair has no proof, then they are well within their rights to take this stance.” Thanks for that update, Andrew.
5.15pmThe Pakistan officials and David Morgan are now going into the Pakistan dressing room for talks.
5.10pm Kamran Akmal has been called back into the dressing room, presumably for a team meeting, whereas Shoaib Akhtar has left. They’re shaking hands on the balcony. David Morgan, the ECB chairman, has just shaken hands with Zaheer Abbas. Now Morgan and Sharayar Khan, the chairman of the PCB, are sitting around to have crisis talks. Stay with us.
5.05pm Still waiting for news, as is everyone else… so bear with us…
5.00pm The bails are coming off now - suggesting the game is over - and the umpires are roundly booed by the crowd. The umpires are walking off as are the batsmen. Have Pakistan forfeited the game? We’ll let you know as soon as we’ve got anything on that. This is a hugely serious situation - and the crowds have no idea what’s going on. Stay tuned and we’ll bring you the news as it develops.
4.55pm The batsmen are coming out now, to great cheers, but there’s no sign of the Pakistan team. Oh, there goes Kamran Akmal, on the balcony, but he just sits down and takes his gloves off. He’s making a statement of intent here, picking up his paper and just reading it. Pakistan are clearly not going to take the field now. The only people out on the field are the two batsmen and two umpires. This is most peculiar.
4.50pm Jenny here, while Andrew goes to find out what’s going on… nobody seems to know, though, as the Pakistan team have delayed their arrival on to the pitch. We will let you know as soon as we know what the latest situation is, but an extraordinary day is just getting more baffling. The crowd are entertaining themselves with a Mexican wave, in the absence of any entertainment out in the middle. Stay with us.
4.45pm Zaheer Abbas, Pakistan’s manager, is talking on his mobile phone on the balcony, but no sign of Inzamam or Bob Woolmer, the Pakistan coach, who was seen before tea striding towards the match referee’s office with the rule book in hand.
No doubt about it, we’ve got a protest in progress here.
4.40pm Now then, this is interesting. The umpires are out there, but the Pakistanis are not coming out of the dressing-room. We could have a bit of an incident here.
The slow-hand claps start to ring out … but there is nothing doing from the Pakistanis. The England batsmen are ready, and now the umpires are having to troop back indoors.
Inzy was threatening to come out, it would seem, but now they are going deeper back into the bowels of the pavilion. I sense a major incident is about to kick off here.
4.35pm The covers are coming off, and it’s looking bright enough for a resumption. And here come the umpires
Tea So the umpires call an early tea as the skies get gloomier… We’ll keep you updated as to when play will recommence but meantime everyone will be reflecting on the unexpected events this afternoon. Drop us a line to let us know what you think
Re: 4th Test - Eng vs Pak - Oval, 17th-21st Aug.
Anybody notice how this throws a fresh new light on the '92 series? You see.. we can reverse the ball without having to tamper with it.
Re: 4th Test - Eng vs Pak - Oval, 17th-21st Aug.
Here is a pic of that Australian nuthead Darrell Hair:
Re: 4th Test - Eng vs Pak - Oval, 17th-21st Aug.
Reason?
We hate Hair!
ohmigosh u guys are hilarious.