Re: 499 high and mighty in for trouble - farmhouses in Islamabad - CJ's ruling (merge
MCB was privatised before Musharraf. I think by NS. NBP is still owned by the Governement.
Re: 499 high and mighty in for trouble - farmhouses in Islamabad - CJ's ruling (merge
also if these 2 were so corupt i dnt think musharrafs sons would be working in a 9-5 job trying to support himself nor would shukat aziz reject googles job offer for a $50 milllion salery.
corruption is what nawa shirif did, when he use to open factories and gift them to his family members on their birthdays and take over other peoples factory and putting them under his name.
we in pakistan have just made it a habit of pulling anyones leg who is good to the nation, its our philosophy, we dnt want to be anything and we wont let other be anything, typical pakistani mentality
Re: 499 high and mighty in for trouble - farmhouses in Islamabad - CJ's ruling (merge
MCB was privatised before Musharraf. I think by NS. NBP is still owned by the Governement.
yes MCB was nationalized by bhutto but privatized by nawa shirif, and he got a big share in the company and sold the rest of his friend nishat mansha.
tells alot doent it,
Re: 499 high and mighty in for trouble - farmhouses in Islamabad - CJ’s ruling (merge
You think? Rs. 75 billion is well over 1 billion $$ and you dont think there any corruption in this?
http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=10588
499 farmhouses are worth Rs75bn!
By Rauf Klasra
ISLAMABAD: The existing market price of the farmhouses spread over 2500 acres of land in the suburbs of Islamabad and owned by only 499 individuals is a staggering 75 billion, and each top gun, on average, owns a farmhouse worth Rs150 million.
The Chief Justice of Pakistan Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry resumes the hearing of this extraordinary case on Thursday (today), which might finally lead to cancellation of allotment of these farmhouses, as it has now emerged that most of these farms are being used for purposes other than for which they were originally allotted by the CDA.
The CJ has already directed the CDA to conduct a survey of these farmhouses and cancel the allotment of those farms which were violating the terms and conditions of the allotment policy.
The publication of the names of these 499 holy cows in ëThe Newsí and ëJangí on Wednesday, has set the alarm bells ringing and the owners have held an emergency meeting at the residence of a top government authority at Chak Shahzad to evolve a strategy to save themselves from the drastic action by the Supreme Court. They are planning to hire the services of a top lawyer to defend them in the court.
These influential people including civil-military bureaucrats and politicians quite conveniently got these plots allotted by the CDA from time to time at throwaway price in the name of growing vegetables, poultry and orchards. President Musharraf and Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz also purchased their farmhouses from the original allotees.
The most prominent among these 499 owners are General Pervez Musharraf and Shaukat Aziz who bought these plots in 2003 from their original owners. Justice Javed Iqbal, Wasim Sajad, Saifur Rehman, Naheed Khan, former interior minister Wasim Shahzad, ISI, Hafeez Pirzada, top military and civilian officers are included in the list.
But their allotment is in danger of being canceled after the CJ directed the CDA to lunch a survey and cancel the allotments of those farms which were being used for the purpose other than for which they were actually allotted.
Meanwhile, several property dealers of Islamabad have confirmed to ëThe Newsí that the current market value of the land owned by 499 privileged individual is Rs75 billion. One property dealer said one acre of land in this area sells for Rs200-250 million. ìThe network of carpeted roads leading to these farmhouses has further hiked the price of these expensive farmsî, the dealer commented.
The SC has been informed that many powerful people have converted these farmhouses into big palaces, mini golf courses, marriage halls, ball rooms, banquet halls, small cinema houses etc. These people have also been enjoying the patronage of the CDA authorities and thus were not touched in the past by the regulations wing of the authority.
Talking to ëThe Newsí, senator Anwer Baig who had already appeared before the SC to give testimony in the case, confirmed that he would continue to pursue the case. Earlier, the SC was told that these farmhouses were actually allotted by CDA in a bid to develop a permanent source of supply of vegetables, poultry and fruits for the people of the twin cities. But, instead, these plots were simply being used for construction of big palaces and recreational facilities. Even ISI also got two big farmhouses allotted in its name for producing poultry and vegetables.
Talking to The News, Chairman CDA Kamran Lashari said the authority was conducting a survey of these farms, as directed by the Supreme Court, and would submit the report to the court of honourable CJ for further action.
Re: 499 high and mighty in for trouble - farmhouses in Islamabad - CJ’s ruling (merge
dude many of these farm houses were brought way before musharraf came,
like i said the article is exaggerating, im not dening corruption, many of the cases were probably of corrution by musharrafs name has been draged in their for the sake of it.
musharraf had always said before he would was going to buy a house here were he can retire, he even previously allready announced in an interview he got a farmhouse in islamabad were he will like to retire and die in pakistan.
it has nothing to do with corruption,
Re: 499 high and mighty in for trouble - another great step by CJ...
Why did that surprise you? State Bank buys and sell dollars all the time. In Pakistan's case to keep exchange rate artificially at 60 to a dollar.
This is normal practice everywhere man. What is the big deal about it?
Re: 499 high and mighty in for trouble - another great step by CJ...
We're having the same misconception and voluntary confusion over Musharraf supporters and MQM supporters, both of which are two entirely separate phenomena and groups. They might share some views but are never the same thing, nor one, and there is no such thing as "Mush/MQM supporters". Avoid such generalizations and don't create bad taste guys.
Haris, i agree that all Mush supporters are not MQM supporters but all MQM supporters are Mush supporters though. And Musharraf is MQM supporter too, he almost confessed to it. Yesterday the interview aired by ARY, Q&A with PJ Mir, he was sked about it and he said,
"Main MQM ki Nahin, Haq Ki Himayat Kerta hooN"
Re: 499 high and mighty in for trouble - farmhouses in Islamabad - CJ's ruling (merge
Whether someone bought farmhouses, was allocated farmhouses, "bought at throw-away" houses there is more to it than just the pricing. The land was for "farming" and what are all these guys doing with this land? Are they growing onion/potatoes there?
Re: 499 high and mighty in for trouble - farmhouses in Islamabad - CJ's ruling (merge
Whether someone bought farmhouses, was allocated farmhouses, "bought at throw-away" houses there is more to it than just the pricing. The land was for "farming" and what are all these guys doing with this land? Are they growing onion/potatoes there?
well farm houses in pakistan are consiered a luxary of the rich, where they party and stay over at weekends, i dnt see any farm houses in pakistan or atleast in lahore, karachi, islm being used for farming they are all used as weekend homes.
in pakistan the whole concept of farm houses is different, as well as in other asian countrys.
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Haris, i agree that all Mush supporters are not MQM supporters but all MQM supporters are Mush supporters though. And Musharraf is MQM supporter too, he almost confessed to it. Yesterday the interview aired by ARY, Q&A with PJ Mir, he was sked about it and he said, "Main MQM ki Nahin, Haq Ki Himayat Kerta hooN"
mushy doesnt support MQM, its the other way round, they support mush.
they have won an election and are in power, mushy doesnt have anything to do with them.
Re: 499 high and mighty in for trouble - farmhouses in Islamabad - CJ's ruling (merge
well farm houses in pakistan are consiered a luxary of the rich, where they party and stay over at weekends, i dnt see any farm houses in pakistan or atleast in lahore, karachi, islm being used for farming they are all used as weekend homes. in pakistan the whole concept of farm houses is different, as well as in other asian countrys.
I have heard about "Farm Houses" in Karachi how they are used for 'weekend getaways' for around Rs 10,000 per day, but what I don't know is how land was obtained for these luxuries. According to the first post, the "farmhouses" in question were obtained/alloted for:
"The farms were initially alloted at highly subsidised rates for growing vegetables and poultry farming."
This is perhaps the only basis on which the allocations can be revoked.
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mushy doesnt support MQM, its the other way round, they support mush.
they have won an election and are in power, mushy doesnt have anything to do with them.
Ofcourse he does or he wud not have let them get away with all the murders and Bhatta collection.
Re: 499 high and mighty in for trouble - another great step by CJ...
but all MQM supporters are Mush supporters though.
Incorrect assumption.
Re: 499 high and mighty in for trouble - farmhouses in Islamabad - CJ's ruling (merge
So 100% vote went to Mush for president, were they all on drugs?
Re: 499 high and mighty in for trouble - farmhouses in Islamabad - CJ's ruling (merge
wow, an ex-executive of citibank who use to own a private jet in new york and a lavish house with a sprawling office overlooking manhattan bought a 2 acre farmhouse in the suburbs of islamabad,
whats wrong with you guys, just cos hes a prime minister he cant purchase property and when he does he automaticly becomes corrupt,
same thing with musharraf he has enjoyed high positions in the army and is rich enought to buy a farm house way out of islamabad. these two guys have earnered well enought money in their past that they probably have the amount for these properties in there pockets, even before coming into the goverment.
shame on the chief justice and all the people who are beliving this messed up article. the whole article is exaggerating, and some kids are falling for it.
The case about farm house allotments is an old one - the article just appearaed recently..
No. of csaes is not an indicator of corruption - as cases of corruption can be lodged at will by any govt. in Pakistan.. who would charge Musharaf until he is in power or can any cases can be lodged against present govt.. corruption is rampant.. just try to do any lawful activity in Pakistan these days.. one has tp pay hefty amounts to politicians and alike.. there are so many big scandals like property and land , sugar crises, stock exchage crises to name some..
The case is very relavant to common people like us who daily see how big guns get property each day at throw away prices whereas ordinary peopel have their meagre properties snached by qabza groups..
Re: 499 high and mighty in for trouble - farmhouses in Islamabad - CJ's ruling (merge
So 100% vote went to Mush for president, were they all on drugs?
What are you talking about? I just said that all MQM supporters are not Mush supporters.
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Haris, i agree that all Mush supporters are not MQM supporters but all MQM supporters are Mush supporters though. And Musharraf is MQM supporter too, he almost confessed to it. Yesterday the interview aired by ARY, Q&A with PJ Mir, he was sked about it and he said, "Main MQM ki Nahin, Haq Ki Himayat Kerta hooN"
What are you talking about? I just said that all MQM supporters are not Mush supporters.
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Re: 499 high and mighty in for trouble - farmhouses in Islamabad - CJ's ruling (merge
cheetah hai CJ.
Re: 499 high and mighty in for trouble - farmhouses in Islamabad - CJ's ruling (merge
sooo tell me how does a grade 22 officer afford a plot in chak shahzad in 2003?
Re: 499 high and mighty in for trouble - farmhouses in Islamabad - CJ's ruling (merge
Pakistani's and emaandaar in the same sentence!!!!
What a frackin joke!