44 Killed in Pakistan Militant Fighting

It seems like things are getting out of hand… :frowning:

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44 Killed in Pakistan Militant Fighting

By CHRIS BRUMMITT – 1 hour ago

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (AP) — Islamic militants in Pakistan attacked a fort near the Afghan border Tuesday, one of two clashes with government forces that left seven troops and 37 fighters dead, the army said. In Europe, President Pervez Musharraf said border attacks were “pinpricks” that his government must manage.

Musharraf said “it doesn’t mean much” that Osama bin Laden and deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri are still at large, and 100,000 Pakistani troops deployed to fight terrorists are not even trying to locate the two, believed to be in the border region.

The Pakistani president, in Paris on a European swing aimed to rebuild Western support for his embattled government, insisted the remnants of the former Taliban regime in neighboring Afghanistan are the “more serious issue.”

“The 100,000 troops that we are using … are not going around trying to locate Osama bin Laden and Zawahiri, frankly,” he said. “They are operating against terrorists, and in the process, if we get them, we will deal with them certainly.”

The attack on the fort, the second this month, occurred in South Waziristan, a lawless tribal region where al-Qaida- and Taliban-linked militants operate.

Thirty-seven militants and five troops were killed in the intense fighting, the statement said. Two other soldiers were killed in a clash in the neighboring North Waziristan, it said.

The violence in the border region, as well as a series of suicide attacks that have killed hundreds in recent months, is triggering uncertainty in the country ahead of Feb. 18 elections that many predict will weaken Musharraf’s grip on power.

But Musharraf rejected claims that the violence was a sign of a resurgent Taliban. More than 150 rebels and soldiers are reported to have been killed in the region this month alone.

“There is no Taliban offensive … being launched,” he said at a conference at the French Institute of International Relations think tank. “These are pinpricks that they keep doing — and we have to manage all of that.”

On Jan. 10, insurgents also attacked Lahda Fort. The military said then that between 40 and 50 of the attackers were killed. Last week, the militants overran a second fort in the region, leaving up to 22 soldiers dead or missing in a major embarrassment for the military.

The border region emerged as a front line in the war on terror after Pakistan allied itself with the U.S. following the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Washington has given Pakistan billions of dollars in aid to help government forces battle militants.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said the Bush administration will fight efforts to curb billions of dollars in U.S. aid to Pakistan.

Ahead of talks with Musharraf in Switzerland on Wednesday,Rice said it is critical that February legislative elections be free and fair.

“The situation in Pakistan is very complicated, but our strong view is that we have to have a long-term, consistent, predictable relationship with Pakistan, not with any one person, but with the institutions of Pakistan,” she said.

The border region, which has never been fully under the control of the central government, is believed to be home to Baitullah Mehsud, a militant leader blamed by Pakistan and the CIA for masterminding the Dec. 27 death of Benazir Bhutto in a gun and suicide attack.

A purported spokesman for Mehsud warned the military to stop its attacks in the region.

“The army is killing innocent people in our areas and we will take strong action by attacking soldiers wherever possible, if it does not stop such activities,” Maulvi Mohammed Umar told The Associated Press by phone.

After the attack on the fort, two fighter jets bombed mountainside villages nearby, killing one civilian, said Rehmanullah Khan, who was injured in the leg by the bombing. Military spokesman Maj. Gen. Athar Abbas said jets had flown reconnaissance missions, but no bombs were dropped.

“We have shortages of food,” Khan said from a hospital in the nearby town of Miran Shah. “Most of the homes are now empty because people have left.”

Meanwhile, security agencies arrested a suspected militant in the southern city of Karachi in connection with the attack on Bhutto, an intelligence official told the AP.

Yousuf Mehsud, who the official said was a close aide to Baitullah Mehsud, was detained late Monday after a tip-off, said the official, who requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.

Last week, authorities arrested a 15-year-old boy they said was part of the team sent to kill Bhutto. Musharraf said Tuesday the boy had been “indoctrinated” by Mehsud.

Associated Press writers Ishtiaq Mahsud in Dera Ismail Khan; Riaz Khan in Peshawar; Matthew Lee in Berlin and Jamey Keaten in Paris contributed to this story.

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I guess Mr Mehsud does not consider who gets killed by those suicide bombs as innocent.

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good

the more militants die the better

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Whats disturbing is that the Militant have denied those casualties...
Usually militants own up to such things...

Whats even more disturbing is that we have no access to info besides what the govt says, which isnt very reliable...
Even today, the US was claiming not having proper intelligence and info on what is going on there..

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^^ the only way to win over these fanatics are the presidental directive for full masscare powers to security services and use of WMD.

Intelligence agenices can't achieve their goals in a situation like these when you are in fear of being caught and beheaded while dogs are circling.

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  1. USA is correct that they don't have enough intelligence about Pakistani terrible tribal areas. The question should be expanded further as "Does USA has all the intelligence about Afghanistan?" I mean that area is under NATO/USA control, and still Talibanic disease is rampant (even in those areas far away from Pakistani border).

  2. It is time to quit believing on militants unless you happen to support them.

WMD use on our own people is terrible idea. They don't do much anyway. Conventional weapons are good enough.

I don't know how the local and foreign media analyzes this situation.

If you look at the map, Pak army has successfully pushed the militants out to the border area, away from major towns.

This is where militants can be crushed using ground and air power.

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^^ well I am suggesting WMD coz alot of our soliders are dying so we can sleep at night. we can lower the death toll by using low power nukes or using bio weapons.

Its the war of idealogy we have to win. Good news is Pakistan is deploying sensors and scanners in majors cities for stopping suicide attacks, it will be functional in less then a month.

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Thank God you're not running the country. BTW, Saddam used WMDs against Kurds and see what happened to him. If Mushrraf does the same the people will rise up and throw him out...if not lynch him.

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^^ atleast you are admitting he cares about Pakistani people. May Allah save him. Rejoice my friend, listen to your heart. Their is love for mushi deep inside feel it khan lalay. :D

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Good question. Have you analysed it yourfself? A world-superpower, sitting in a country who should've been in complete control of the country couldn't wipe out militants or contain them. They want Pakistani government to do that job in Pakistan which they couldn't do in Afghanistan, Nice!

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Um, actually we DONT want human rights violations and massacre powers given to the Army…
These are actual Pakistanis we are talking about… :rolleyes:

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Coas was in swat declaring area free of taliban. Security forces start operation against messud tribe, start counting for the departure of bait ullah messud. 70 jalads with "lambi seekh" waiting for him.