3rd ODI: England v Pakistan at Dubai (DSC)
Feb 18, 2012 (15:00 local | 11:00 GMT | 16:00 PKT)
Adnan should be in . . .
Hafeez and YK must score in the remaining 2 games if pakistan really wants to win (no chance to drop both of them)
After losing 2 games, we hope this time Misbah and company will win inshaALLAH
Best of Luck 
Re: 3rd ODI: England v Pakistan at Dubai (DSC), Sat Feb 18, 2012
Its hard to come back but lets see
Re: 3rd ODI: England v Pakistan at Dubai (DSC), Sat Feb 18, 2012
Pakistan & England have played 14 ODI series before this series. Pakistan only won 3 series one in 1974 and other two in 2000 & 2005. 2 series were drawn.
England have won 9 Series (Despite they lost (2 consecutive test series) in 87; 92, 96) but still they won ODI series. Pakistan managed to win both series only in 2005.
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Span
Mat
Won
Lost
Tied
NR
W/L
Ave
RPO
HS
LS
1974-2012
70
28
40
0
2
0.7
27.83
4.4
353
74
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Mat
Won
Lost
Tied
NR
W/L
Start Date
Winner
Pakistan
2
2
0
0
31-Aug-74
Pakistan
Prudential Trophy (Pakistan in England), 1974
Pakistan
3
1
2
0
0
0.5
23-Dec-77
England
England in Pakistan ODI Series, 1977/78
Pakistan
2
0
2
0
0
0
24-May-78
England
Prudential Trophy (Pakistan in England), 1978
Pakistan
2
0
2
0
0
0
17-Jul-82
England
Prudential Trophy (Pakistan in England), 1982
Pakistan
2
1
1
0
0
1
09-Mar-84
drawn
England in Pakistan ODI Series, 1983/84
Pakistan
3
1
2
0
0
0.5
21-May-87
England
Texaco Trophy (Pakistan in England), 1987
Pakistan
3
0
3
0
0
0
18-Nov-87
England
England in Pakistan ODI Series, 1987/88
Pakistan
5
1
4
0
0
0.25
20-May-92
England
Texaco Trophy (Pakistan in England), 1992
Pakistan
3
1
2
0
0
0.5
29-Aug-96
England
Texaco Trophy (Pakistan in England), 1996
Pakistan
3
2
1
0
0
2
24-Oct-00
Pakistan
England in Pakistan ODI Series, 2000/01
Pakistan
3
1
2
0
0
0.5
17-Jun-03
England
NatWest Challenge (Pakistan in England), 2003
Pakistan
5
3
2
0
0
1.5
10-Dec-05
Pakistan
England in Pakistan ODI Series, 2005/06
Pakistan
5
2
2
0
1
1
30-Aug-06
drawn
NatWest Series [Pakistan in England], 2006
Pakistan
5
2
3
0
0
0.66
10-Sep-10
England
NatWest Series [Pakistan in England], 2010
Re: 3rd ODI: England v Pakistan at Dubai (DSC), Sat Feb 18, 2012
Oh yaar mjhe kholnay dete thread 
I didnt open and we lost 
Re: 3rd ODI: England v Pakistan at Dubai (DSC), Sat Feb 18, 2012
Agar aab bhi haar gaiay to IS ka ban kar daina 
Bismillah to uss he nay key thi 
Re: 3rd ODI: England v Pakistan at Dubai (DSC), Sat Feb 18, 2012
Very disappointing effort so far from the team. Hopefully this time they will play like they played in the test series.
Re: 3rd ODI: England v Pakistan at Dubai (DSC), Sat Feb 18, 2012
I hope Misbah is doing toss-practice a la Inzamam :D
Re: 3rd ODI: England v Pakistan at Dubai (DSC), Sat Feb 18, 2012
Even if we win the toss and bat, we'll be damn lucky if we win. This is one of the poorest ODI teams to ever come from Pakistan. 2 shaky openers, who have poor averages and even poorer records against quality bowling attacks, a number 4 in Younis who is anything but reliable in ODI cricket, a number 5 in Misbah, who is a fighter but is not suited to ODI cricket, and a number 6 in Umar Akmal who is full of promise but little to show for it. Afridi, at 7, well the less said about his batting the better...pretty much the tail starts at 7 for Pakistan and its also the worse tail in world cricket at the moment, probably at par with Zimbabwe.
Hopefully, once Illyas gets the sack and Mohsin goes back to being chief selector we could see the return of some quality players...for example, an ODI line up comprising off Nasir Jamshed, Ahmed Shehzad, Azhar Ali, Umar Akmal, Asad Shafiq, Mohammad Hafeez, Awais Zia, Afridi, Gul, Ajmal, Junaid Khan would be a terrific ODI lineup to have.
Hafeez is not a opener to rely on against top sides, but his bowling should win him the number 6 allrounder spot / or he could be swapped with Hammad Azam once Hammad improves his bowling. (I've seen him bowl and he needs a lot of work still)
The selectors should also look for an out and out fast bowler, who can bowl at some serious pace. The fast bowling attack is really poor at the moment, Cheema, Wahab, are nothing to write home about and Junaid is still a work in progress.
Gone are the tuk-tuk days of ODI cricket, you need to build momentum from the word go and keep it going for the majority of the innings. The block till you get to the last 10 overs of the innings approach wont win you any games against top attacks.
Re: 3rd ODI: England v Pakistan at Dubai (DSC), Sat Feb 18, 2012
Even if we win the toss and bat, we'll be damn lucky if we win. This is one of the poorest ODI teams to ever come from Pakistan. 2 shaky openers, who have poor averages and even poorer records against quality bowling attacks, a number 4 in Younis who is anything but reliable in ODI cricket, a number 5 in Misbah, who is a fighter but is not suited to ODI cricket, and a number 6 in Umar Akmal who is full of promise but little to show for it. Afridi, at 7, well the less said about his batting the better...pretty much the tail starts at 7 for Pakistan and** its also the worse tail in world cricket at the moment, probably at par with Zimbabwe. **
Hopefully, once Illyas gets the sack and Mohsin goes back to being chief selector we could see the return of some quality players...for example, an ODI line up comprising off Nasir Jamshed, Ahmed Shehzad, Azhar Ali, Umar Akmal, Asad Shafiq, Mohammad Hafeez, Awais Zia, Afridi, Gul, Ajmal, Junaid Khan would be a terrific ODI lineup to have.
Even your selection has the same 'worst' tail :)
Re: 3rd ODI: England v Pakistan at Dubai (DSC), Sat Feb 18, 2012
Even your selection has the same 'worst' tail :)
True but Afridi is at 8 not 7 this time:)
And I think the top 6-7 are more stable at this batting order compared to what we have now.
Re: 3rd ODI: England v Pakistan at Dubai (DSC), Sat Feb 18, 2012
^ I don't know much about Awais Zia but I'd rather bring Fawad Alam back and give him a proper chance for few series instead of a game here a series there.
Re: 3rd ODI: England v Pakistan at Dubai (DSC), Sat Feb 18, 2012
He’s an attacking left handed middle order batsman, who can also keep and also opens in T20.
Fawad Alam has a poor technique for test cricket, but I definately agree he deserves a long run in the ODI and T20 team. I also think, Shoaib Malik’s time at the top level should be over. I was a fan of Malik, but he’s not the same player he was in 2007, and its time to move on from Malik. The likes of Alam, Hammad etc should now be given preference over people like Farhat, Malik, etc.
Re: 3rd ODI: England v Pakistan at Dubai (DSC), Sat Feb 18, 2012
u r late 
Sukar hay aap ka khula howa thread b haar gaya hay warna aap ne tu mera jina haram kar daina tha
Re: 3rd ODI: England v Pakistan at Dubai (DSC), Sat Feb 18, 2012
Have you seen Fawad Alam’s Inning in his First Test ? He played down order in First Class cricket and they brought him as Opener. But he played well and after two more test matches he was out.
He need some more chances in Test Cricket
I feel he is not a nice stroke player for International ODIs.
Re: 3rd ODI: England v Pakistan at Dubai (DSC), Sat Feb 18, 2012
Have you seen Fawad Alam's Inning in his First Test ? He played down order in First Class cricket and they brought him as Opener. But he played well and after two more test matches he was out. He need some more chances in Test Cricket I feel he is not a nice stroke player for International ODIs.
That was a good knock but more importantly look at his technique. All that shuffling and movement, makes him a sitting duck for a quality seam bowler.
Re: 3rd ODI: England v Pakistan at Dubai (DSC), Sat Feb 18, 2012
Have you seen Fawad Alam's Inning in his First Test ? He played down order in First Class cricket and they brought him as Opener. But he played well and after two more test matches he was out.
He need some more chances in Test Cricket
I feel he is not a nice stroke player for International ODIs.
He is good bat in ODIs too, unfortunately he didn't look like pressure material like Misbah or Inzamam. If given consistent chances may be he will get better in pressure situations.
That was a good knock but more importantly look at his technique. All that shuffling and movement, makes him a sitting duck for a quality seam bowler.
but the video you posted of Awais Zia, he was shuffling too, no?
Re: 3rd ODI: England v Pakistan at Dubai (DSC), Sat Feb 18, 2012
WIn the toss and win the match today
Its simple
Re: 3rd ODI: England v Pakistan at Dubai (DSC), Sat Feb 18, 2012
And we've finally WON.............the Toss
Re: 3rd ODI: England v Pakistan at Dubai (DSC), Sat Feb 18, 2012
After getting screwed twice finally Misbah got a specialist WK for Ajmal and Afridi
Re: 3rd ODI: England v Pakistan at Dubai (DSC), Sat Feb 18, 2012
No Younis
No Rehman
