30th November - PTI Jalsa Islamabad

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Very well written article, no matter how many mistakes and blunders IK may have made he is still far better than any other corrupt leader out there.

Time to accept some hard realities - Ayaz Amir

Islamabad diary

At about five in the evening, a few bald patches in D Chowk still visible, I said that Imran Khan’s rally was not the overpowering thing it should have been. Barely an hour later I was eating my words. Stepping down from the TV perch from where we were pontificating, and making my way to Jinnah Avenue, I was dumb-founded. For a river of people was flowing towards the parade ground, the venue of the jalsa.

Feeling a bit shamefaced, I went up to the Geo office for a cup of tea, worn out as I was for I had been there since 12 in the afternoon. When I came down to Jinnah Avenue again…the river was in high flood, ceaseless and unstoppable. When I asked a few people what had taken them so long, they said JUI-F workers/maulvis (Maulana Fazlur Rehman) had blocked the roads and they had to wait for hours before they could move towards Islamabad.

Consider this: a JUI-F leader is slain in Larkana, Sindh, and the Maulana’s cohorts block roads in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. And we are to believe that they were mourning the dead and not trying to sabotage the PTI rally. If PTI workers and sympathisers had been less fired up and determined they would have gone home and participation from KP would have been thin. Only the fact it was not a rent-a-crowd saved the day for them.

I can’t forget an old woman being helped along by her female relatives. I asked where they were coming from. Peshawar. When had they set out? 10 in the morning. And how old was the matriarch? 82. There was a young man on crutches hurrying towards the jalsa-gah.

The purpose is not to glorify the PTI, much less sing Imran Khan’s praises, but only to point out that this is a new phenomenon we are seeing. Imran Khan may have been around for a long time, struggling for the last 18 years, during which time a lesser man perhaps would have given up, but after these years in the wilderness, of not being taken seriously as a political figure, he has finally arrived. Like it or hate it, there is no escaping this reality.

The galvanising of the young and the not-so-young, of the middle class and the lower middle class, of whole sections of the people hitherto aloof from politics, the huge, unprecedented participation of women of all ages in PTI rallies, and the carnival atmosphere to be seen in those rallies…about this new spirit of engagement what the nay-sayers, and above all the ruling party, have to understand is that it is not going away anywhere any time soon. It is here to stay.

The PPP is dead and buried in its once-stronghold of Punjab. The PML-N is a product of times past, its sell-by date perhaps over. The PTI is the new enfant terrible to arrive on the national scene.

Those who think that Imran’s strength will ebb and the steam will go out of his balloon are fooling themselves. He has committed mistakes, even blunders – like his misplaced call for a civil disobedience movement. But these weaknesses pale beside his one undoubted achievement: the way he has stirred the stagnant waters of Pakistani politics and turned vague public frustration into a solid political movement. Excoriate him, pillory him, make fun of him…but you will have to be fooling yourself to insist, against all the evidence, a new thing at his hands has not come to exist.

The onus of recognition falls heaviest on the ruling party. The longer it takes for it to open its eyes to the new realities the more serious becomes its problem. If Nawaz Sharif thinks that Saad Rafiq’s histrionics or Pervaiz Rashid’s jibes – jumla-baazian – are a sufficient answer to Imran Khan he lives in his own world.

Imran Khan has no shortage of detractors but he has confounded them all. Since mid-August he has gone on from one thing to another: first the long march from Lahore, which wasn’t very impressive, then the prolonged sit-ins and the daily speeches from atop the container, high drama alternating with moments of farce, and the whole thing stretching out until it became a bore, testing the fortitude of his supporters and the patience of his listeners.

But just when it seemed he had run out of options he announced a series of meetings across the country, drawing mammoth crowds everywhere. Then out of the blue came the call for the Nov 30th show of force and, as I have said, until 5 in the evening I thought he had blown it, the jalsa not coming up to its high expectations.

I went so far as to tell Chaudhry Ghulam Hussain, the well-known TV host, and Nasim Zehra that we were watching a tragedy unfold, a movement which had attained its high point losing its momentum before our eyes. Then to my mounting disbelief the arena began filling up, as if reinforcements were coming from afar. If I do not overstate the case, would not Wellington have felt the same when Marshal Blucher’s Prussians arrived to his aid at Waterloo?

But the thing to note: even when it was all jam-packed, when a woman, a family, young girls, had to walk through, strutting young men would part, giving them the right of way. For young, smart-looking girls – some in jeans – to move thus freely without fear of molestation or touching in a Pakistani crowd is nothing short of a miracle. I don’t know what ‘naya Pakistan’ means but in this one circumstance it may already have come.

The PML-N strategy boils down to assuming that all this will pass and the ‘Kaptaan’ will be left with nothing but the echo of his own rhetoric. It is wrong, if only because it is not a flashing meteor across the skies that we are seeing, a blaze of light and then nothing. The PTI has already demonstrated staying power. Beyond that, having gone through its battle inoculation, it is now more confident of itself, a tried and tested force.

So anyone taking lightly Imran’s threat to up the ante and shut down major cities is probably making another mistake. If the JUI-F which doesn’t carry one-twentieth the PTI’s strength can block the roads and highways leading out of KP the ruling party will be deluding itself if it thinks that the PTI doesn’t have the muscle to block roads leading in and out of Lahore.

The crisis we already face thus becomes more acute. The stalemate deepens. Can any government function properly in such a situation? The negative TV ad campaign against the PTI already shows how much Imran Khan is on the nerves of the ruling family. Such tactics will get it nowhere. So shaking itself out of its stupor and mastering some of its prejudices, if it is to get anywhere it must think in broader terms.

Can it hold out some kind of an olive branch, some offer of talks? Only problem is that the role of peace-maker does not come easily to Nawaz Sharif. The related problem is that any acceptance of Imran Khan’s demands – election audit, etc – will be seen in the ruling family as akin to virtual political suicide.

This is not the stuff of tragedy – no need to dramatise it like that – but it does mean Pakistan at the mercy of egos that can’t rise above themselves. If there were no price to pay this could be viewed as spiced-up entertainment. Our history, however, points to more forbidding conclusions.

In 1977 Zulfikar Ali Bhutto stretched out negotiations with the PNA so much that Gen Zia got his chance to intervene. Whatever may have been written in his stars, to some extent Bhutto invited his own doom…just as Pakistan’s ruling classes invited the wrath of the furies in 1971 when they refused a settlement with the Awami League.

A political settlement of the present crisis…the opportunity for this is slipping through the fingers of the ruling set-up. Can something be done or are we watching another drama unfold?

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Another good read..

The rise and rise of Kaptaan

By Rasul Bakhsh Rais
Published: December 3, 2014

The rise and rise of Kaptaan – The Express Tribune
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The rise of Imran Khan from the world of cricket to the driving seat of Pakistan’s generally dynastic, feudal politics is the biggest change we have witnessed in decades. The November 30 rally in Islamabad, the biggest ever by the kaptaan, and the largest ever by any political leader, present or past, speaks a lot about the growing public support for him in every corner of the country. The rallies he has held in other cities of Punjab and Sindh have been very successful, more in Punjab in terms of numbers. In many ways, he has changed the political culture of Pakistan by raising awareness about the major problems Pakistan faces from widespread corruption by the elite to governance crisis and poor investment in education and health.

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The conventional parties and their leaders have taken refuge in ‘saving democracy’, showing their majority in parliament and by closing their ranks against kaptaan’s agitation politics. Unable to defend themselves effectively by counterargument or evidence, failing to contradict what the PTI says about their character of politics and misuse of power and national resources, they have hoped that agitation will cause his politics to taper off. As appears from the recent public rallies, neither is the kaptaan tired and nor are his generally young supporters. Rather, the excitement and commitment to changing the functioning of the political order are on the ascent.

Something the old parties are missing in their understanding, or deliberately turning a blind eye to, is the distrust of the middle class, both urban and rural and its unprecedented politicisation. This is, perhaps, the major factor that accounts for the growing popularity of the kaptaan. The leaders of the dynastic parties have nothing to offer to this disillusioned class. With more urbanisation, the political power and influence of this class has grown a great deal. At the moment, this class is solidly with the PTI.

The second important factor that explains the rise of leaders in every competitive, democratic polity is their credibility. The question that is always on the minds of the people is: can they trust them? People in the democratic politics of the two major parties, the PML-N and the PPP have mattered very little, if at all. They have substituted genuine support of the people with building elite networks, the exclusive clubs of political families. In doing so, never were they alive to the changing political reality of Pakistan: increasing distrust in the ruling dynasties and new voices of change that the media and social discourses have popularised. For long, they have lost touch with the political reality of a quietly changing Pakistan. On the other hand, people listen to and believe Imran Khan. He has etched a place deep in their political imagination for the better future of the country.

Finally, there is the political message of the kaptaan that has made great political waves in the country. Consistently, for years, he has focused on merit, transparency in government affairs, accountability and responsible governance. Sick and tired of systematic corruption, bad governance, and undocumented accumulation of wealth by powerful sections of society, the general public appears to be embracing his politics and leadership as the best hope for real change.

Furthermore, there are two significant things, in my view, about the rise of kaptaan: his de-legitimisation of old politics and trust in the people’s ability to change what he calls the corrupt and dysfunctional political system. He shows beaming confidence in his own ability to change Pakistan and rebuild the fractured ties between the state and society. The idiom has gone viral — the only cure is change itself.

Published in The Express Tribune, December 3rd, 2014.

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30 نومبر کا جلسہ ہو گیا۔۔۔ عین گمان اور توقع کے مطابق۔۔۔ نہ کم نہ زیادہ۔۔۔ وہ سیاسی کلچر جو اس ملک میں عمران خان نے متعارف کروایا ہے اور جس پر پرانے چہرے معترض رہتے ہیں۔ یہ جلسہ بھی اُس کے مطابق تھا۔۔۔ جس کے شرکاء اتنے ہی گرم جوش تھے جتنے کہ اس سے قبل کراچی، لاہور، ملتان، سرگودھا، میانوالی، گجرات وغیرہ کے جلسوں کے تھے۔ یہ عمران خان کا جادو ہے یا ڈی جے بٹ کے میوزک کا، یہ تو معلوم نہیں، مگر اتنا ضرور معلوم ہے کہ عمران خان اب آہستہ آہستہ اس مقام، اُس مرتبے کا لیڈر بنتا جا رہا ہے جس کی ایک آواز پر لوگ بے تابانہ اُٹھ کھڑے ہوتے ہیں اور اُس کی ایک جھلک پر نثار ہونے کو جی جان سے تیار ہو جاتے ہیں۔ اس میں اگر عمران خان کی اضافی خوبیوں کا کمال ہے تو حکمرانوں کی نالائقی اور نااہلی بھی اس کی ایک بڑی وجہ ہے، جسے وہ ہرگز بھی ماننے کو تیار نہیں اور برابر عمران خان اور اس کی سیاسی بصیرت کی نفی کرنے میں لگے ہوئے ہیں۔ جلسے کے روز جب پنڈال انسانوں سے لبالب بھر چکا تھا اورمزید لوگوں کی گنجائش نہ ہونے کے باوجود قافلے تھے کہ بڑھتے چلے آتے تھے، اُس وقت واحد پی ٹی وی تھا جو جلسہ گاہ میں سٹیج کے سامنے چند خواتین اور خالی کرسیاں دکھا کر لوگوں کو مسلسل گمراہ کرنے کی سرکاری ڈیوٹی ادا کر رہا تھا ۔۔۔ اور اس کے ہم نوا جلسے کو عمران خان کا ناکام شو قرار دے کر ’’اپنی ڈیوٹی‘‘ ادا کر رہے تھے اور ایک دن قبل حویلیاں میں نوازشریف کے جلسے کو عظیم تر ثابت کرنے کی کوشش میں ہلکان ہو رہے تھے۔ اس موازنے اور مطابقت کی ہٹ دھرمی گرچہ نئی نہیں، مگر ہر دفعہ اسے دیکھ کر پرانی سیاست کے تبدیل نہ ہونے اور اُسے اسٹیٹس کو کے ذریعے ہم پر مسلط رکھنے والے کی سوچ پر افسوس ہوتا ہے، جو ہمیں تو ملیامیٹ کر چکی اب ہماری اگلی نسلوں کے شکار کے لئے اپنے پنجے تیز کر رہی ہے۔۔۔ یہی وجہ اس وقت تحریکِ انصاف سیاسی منظرنامے میں یک و تنہا کھڑی اُس نظام کو للکار رہی ہے جس کے تیز نوکیلے پنجوں میں اس ملک کی معیشت، ترقی، تعمیر، بقا، استحکام اور امن پھڑپھڑا رہے ہیں۔! ماضی کے سارے حریف، حلیف اور اتحادی بن گئے اور سبھی خون کے پیاسے ایک دوسرے سے شیروشکر ہو گئے۔۔۔ حتیٰ کہ ماڈل ٹاؤن کے مظلومین کی لاشیں کاندھے پر رکھ کر انصاف انصاف پکارنے والے علامہ طاہرالقادری بھی نگاہ کا واہمہ بن کر رہ گئے۔! عمران خان کی 30 نومبر کے جلسے میں شرکت کی دعوت پر عوامی تحریک کا باضابطہ انکار یہ ثابت کرتا ہے کہ تحریکِ انصاف اس وقت اس ملک کی واحد اپوزیشن ہے اور سبھی چھوٹی بڑی سیاسی جماعتیں بشمول تانگہ پارٹیاں نوازشریف کے جھنڈے تلے جمع ہو چکی ہیں ’’جمہوریت بچانے کے لئے‘‘۔۔۔ اور ماضی کے ’’میمنے‘‘، ’’شیر‘‘ کی اجازت سے گھاٹ پر پانی پی کر باہم شیروشکر ہو چکے۔ چنانچہ اس وقت اس ملک کے بدبودار سیاسی نظام اور اسٹیٹس کو کے سامنے واحد مزاحمت کار عمران خان ہی نظر آتا ہے، جسے ہیرو سے زیرو ثابت کرنے کا مشن ہی ان میمنوں، بکریوں اور شیروں کا مطمع نظر ہے۔!

رہے لندن پلان، فوجی پشت پناہی اور یہودی سازشیں، تو ان کا ذکر بھی ہوا ہُوا، ماضی کے جنرل پاشا جو کل تک کسی خفیہ اور نادیدہ ہاتھ سے عمران خان کے جلسوں کا بڑا پیٹ بھرا کرتے تھے، یہ ذکر بھی کچھ عرصہ سے موقوف ہوگیا۔ چنانچہ اب جو بھی ہے وہ خود تحریکِ انصاف ہے، جو اپنے بل بوتے پر کھڑی اس وقت پورے سیاسی نظام کوچیلنج کر رہی ہے، جو اس کے خلاف منظم و متحد ہو کر کھڑا ہوچکا ہے۔ ساڑھے تین ماہ کے دھرنوں میں ساری دھندلی تصویریں واضح ہو گئیں اور سارے دھل گئے۔ عمران خان کی استقامت اور عوام الناس کی اس سے محبت نے یہ ثابت کر دیا کہ یہی وہ شخص ہے جس کی قیادت میں یہ ملک اچھا ہونے کی امید رکھتا ہے۔ مضبوط کردار اورپختہ عزم رکھنے والا یہ شخص، اُس منڈی کا مال نہیں جہاں لیڈر بیچے اور خریدے جاتے ہیں اور نہ ہی اس کی بصیرت اتنی تنگ کہ صرف اپنے اور اپنی اولاد کے مفادات تک ہی محدود رہے، یہی وجہ لوگ اس کے پیچھے پیچھے ہیں۔ جہاں بلاتا ہے،جب بلاتا ہے، حاضر ہوتے ہیں۔ اس ضمن میں نہ تو عمران خان کو کوئی تردد کرنا پڑتا ہے، نہ اُس کی کال پر پنجوں کے بل دوڑے چلے آنے والوں کو۔ یہی بات اس سیاسی کلچر میں عجیب ہے، نئی ہے، جسے ہضم کرنے کو ’’جمہوریت بچانے والے‘‘ تیار نہیں۔

عمران خان کا ٹھٹھہ اُڑانے والے اُسے ناپختہ کار، سیاسی نابالغ، اکھڑ، ضدی اور ہٹ دھرم قرار دینے والے، اُس کی بڑھتی ہوئی عوامی طاقت اور مقبولیت، جواب قبولیت کے درجہ تک پہنچ چکی ہے، اُس سے اس درجہ خوفزدہ ہوچکے ہیں کہ اس وقت عمران خان اور اس کی سیاست سے بڑا موضوع اور کوئی نہیں۔ چاہے اُس کی تنقید ہو یا اُس کی مخالفت، ذکر اُسی کا ہے جو زور پکڑ چکا ہے۔ پٹرول سستا کرنے، بجلی کے منصوبوں پر تیزی سے کام کرنے اور اپنی پرانی رعونت اور تکبر سے باہر آ کر اپنے سیاسی ورکرز سے میل ملاقات کے معاملات تک جتنی بھی حکومتی تبدیلی دکھائی دیتی ہے ، سب کا محرک وہ ایک شخص ہے جو ساڑھے تین ماہ سے وفاقی مرکز کے قلب میں ڈیرے ڈالے بیٹھا ہے۔ اور وہاں سے انصاف حاصل کئے بغیر اٹھنے کو تیار نہیں۔۔۔ پابلو نرودا کے اشعار پڑھنے، فیضؔ کے مزاحمتی مصرعے اٹھانے اور اقبالؔ کے کلام کو نوکِ زباں پر رکھنے والے بیرسٹر اعتزاز احسن جو خود ایک ہارے ہوئے لشکر کے سپاہی کی حیثیت سے مرحوم بھٹو کی جماعت میں کھڑے، خود اس نظریاتی جماعت کا نوحہ دکھائی دیتے ہیں، جنہوں نے اک وجد آور لمحے میں عمران خان کو بہادر شخص کہہ کر مخاطب کیا تھا اور اس کی ہار کو اس ملک کے عوام کی ہار قرار دیا تھا، وہی اعتزاز احسن جب عمران خان پر بے جا تنقید کرتے پائے جاتے ہیں تو اپنے ملک کے سیاسی شعور پر قابض اُس نظام کی پختگی پر کسی شک وشبہ کی گنجائش نہیں رہتی، جواس ملک کی فکر،نظریے اور تعمیر و ترقی پر اپنے آسیبی پنجے گاڑے، اس کا خون پی رہا ہے اور اُسے سنبھلنے اور اپنے پاؤں پر کھڑے ہونے کا موقع فراہم کرنے کے خلاف ہے۔ پی پی جیسی فکری اور نظریاتی جماعت کو بلاول ہاؤسوں تک محدود کرنے والے زرداری کے کندھے سے کندھا جوڑ کر بلاول جیسے ناپختہ کار کو لیڈر ماننے والوں میں بیرسٹر اعتزاز احسن جیسے ماضی کے مزاحمت کاروں کو دیکھتی ہوں تو اسٹیٹس کو کی طاقت کا اندازہ بھی ہوتا ہے اور اس طاقت کے بل بوتے پر کھڑے ان ’’بونوں‘‘ کی قدوقامت کابھی، جو ہمیں دور سے قدآور دکھائی دیتے ہیں۔۔۔ ان ’’قد آوروں‘‘ کو چونکہ اپنی حقیقی طاقت اورقامت کا اندازہ ہو چکا ہے اسی لئے وہ عمران خان کے خلاف ہاتھوں میں ہاتھ دیئے کھڑے ہیں اور اس کے خلاف تمام جمع شدہ طاقتوں کو صرف کرنے پر باہم متفق دکھائی دیتے ہیں تاکہ اُس کا خاتمہ بروقت کر کے آئندہ کے لئے اپنے راستے صاف کر لیں اور یہ ملک جسے وہ اپنی وراثت سمجھتے ہیں اس پر بلا شرکتِ غیرے قابض رہیں اور آپس میں اقتدار کی بندربانٹ جاری رکھیں۔!

کیا یہ بندربانٹ اسی طرح جاری رہے گی؟ کیا ہم ان قابضین کے ہاتھوں میں اسی طرح یرغمال بنے رہیں گے؟ یہ ملک ہمارے بزرگوں نے کیا ان قابضین کے لئے بنایا تھا؟ یہ سوال خود سے پوچھئے ان کا جواب خود ہمارے پاس ہے!!!۔

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As an ex-PML MNA, who got thrown out of the party, Ayaz Amir has been trying to promote Qadri and IK for a long time

A more realistic view of Imran’s continuous blunders:

A wobbly stage for the PTI - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

OVER the last four months, as the PTI’s anti-government protests have ebbed and flowed there have been moments of high drama and low farce. Sometimes though the PTI appears to outdo itself.

After a long build-up to the Islamabad rally on Sunday, the PTI chief Imran Khan unveiled his next plan of action, the so-called Plan C, amounting to attempted strikes in Lahore, Faisalabad and Karachi days apart with a countrywide shutdown to be attempted on Dec 16.

**It was not quite high drama compared to what had unfolded in the months before, but Mr Khan’s new strategy did up the ante once again. Then, a day later, the grand plan appeared to wobble as the PTI backtracked on the dates, sequence and substance of the purported strikes — leaving many outside the PTI — and surely some inside — wondering how much thought had gone into Plan C.

To begin with was the choice of the awkward date of Dec 16, a dark day in this country’s history. To call a national strike in a bid to topple a government on the day that half the country was lost 43 years ago was more than a PR faux pas by the PTI.

It suggests the party leadership, and perhaps Mr Khan himself, is either unaware of political history or would prefer to ignore it — a worrying sign indeed for a party that focuses on systemic change.

Then the sequence of the citywide attempted strikes was also changed because the PTI machine in Lahore was deemed to need more time to organise itself, something not manageable by the original date of Dec 4.
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**In the background though was an even more damaging claim: that the PTI had to switch its Lahore strike around because of a large, two-day programme by the Jamaatud Dawa in the Punjab capital.
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**It is truly a staggering thought: national politics, even of the fight-to-the-death kind that the PTI and PML-N are engaged in, must take a back seat to the plans of a group whose parent organisation is the banned Lashkar-e-Taiba. Unwittingly, yet again, the PTI appears to have exposed more about itself and aspects of this country than it had hoped to.
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For once though the PML-N has resisted the temptation to match the PTI in witlessness. Having initially dismissed the idea of talks unless the PTI discards Plan C, the PML-N appears to have had a rethink.

In truth, the gap between what Mr Khan demanded on Sunday in Islamabad and what the government can offer in talks with the PTI is really quite small now.

The ball is in the government’s court. It can choose to overcome its fear, to show a spirit of generosity and do the right thing. Meaningful electoral reforms and a definitive inquiry into the May 2013 election can and should take place.

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eak hi topic per kitnay thread banaiN gaay? there are already two threads on same topic!!!

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/pakistan-affairs/648918-imran-announces-decisive-war-on-november-30-a.html

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/pakistan-affairs/650178-imran-to-unveil-plan-c-today.html

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For IK to be the level of others he would have to loot the country over decades, be in power atleast three four times and then he can be compared to anyone else.

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His team, is made up these same looters.

If he has chosen these people -above others- to shape his party, there is no reason to believe him and Pti are any different.

Let's not be naive about it.

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and this what Haroon Rasheed have to say about 30th November and IK and his team.

http://e.dunya.com.pk/news/2014/December/2014-12-04/LHR/colum_img/x41516_59810616.jpg.pagespeed.ic.fM5cwolofW.jpg

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There is only one thong interested in the column of Chavha Kupi

IK has given some 'Gali' to asli Nasli Daghi Lota SMQ

Can any tell the detail ?

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If Pakistani's are sick of the Bhutto and Nawaz Shareef Dynasties, wait till they are saddled with Imran's Dynaasties

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The Best move for IK should be:

1) Should meet the PM- One on One
2) Should become Chairman and spearhead the Parliamentary Committee for Elections Reforms and have the recommendations ready within a year to be implemented in next 1 and half year.
3) Take his container to Peshawar and Announce that he'll stay there till the province become number one province of Pakistan by
3.a) Improve the health System, if he can make Cancer Hospital while not being in Govt, then i am sure he can make basic health units and generals hospitals in District headquarters.
3.b) Improve the education system, If he can make college in Mianwali while he was not in govt, then what is stopping him having universities and colleges of international standards in the province... he should work on it
3.c) Install small hydro projects and give their cheap electricity to Industries to start with, this will attract investors/industrialists to KPK, making KPK their 1st choice.. this will provide huge employment opportunities in the province
3.d) Develop infrastructure of the province... Tourism should be his focus, improve all the tourist attractions and roads leading to these sites.

i m sure if IK forget about SMQ, Mazari, Shk Rasheed and Tareen for next 3 years... he wont be needing any electable in 2018...

Overseas Pakistani still have trust in him, they can be his investors in above projects, he can set up a fund for it...

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^^^ You mean, as long as Imran leave the Thugs to loot and plunder the country for next 3 years (until next election) than it is fine. And after next election, leave PPP for next five years, than that would be excellent (as obviously, with criteria of dhandli to win election and deal of revolving chair between thugs in party, PPP would be next in government, regardless of who get votes, as votes do not count). Akhir two thugs need to become richest family in the world, so they should get all opportunity to do that, right?:)

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PM should go to this thug , chandakhor at the Musical Comedy show at any evening
And to accept most of his demand about future .

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I have seen the most saint army generals taking over country and failed to do any improvement despite the fact that they had best chance to fix the problems... hence i am of the conclusion (after seeing results of 40 years of army rule) that it is only civilians who can bring Pakistan back on track... and that is without any intervention from these army generals.

The only way it is possible is through performance, Tayyab Ardagan is there a living example who performed and just performed and provide relief to his people... but i know many who do not want Pakistan to prosper would be against a compromise and would try to take country to a stage where 1971 can be repeated.

If IK start this what i said above in KPK, SS would be jumping up and down to surpass that performance, NS in the center would be doing whatever possible to stay in news in that regard... Zardari would have no option but to perform and Army's role would limited in all this performance and development race...

The actual story of rigging has no more attraction in it... people will be taking him as a joke and that would be a sad day for Pakistan because he is the catalyst which will force PML-N and others to perform...

result oriented performance in KPK is key to get all these old politicians out of the race and not the way IK have selected..

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PM klya pagal hay? How can thugs in government would accept demands to cut their own feet that dhandli gives them?

If PM want to be PM and all accept him as PM, than he has to clear all clouds on last election, and that can only happen if new election is held as soon as possible, and that is not asking too much in democracy where election results are doubtful.

So, let there be real election, where army accompany ballot papers to polling stations, is in and out of polling stations, monitors the movement of ballet boxes from polling stations, monitors counting and announcement.

If Thug really won the election free and fair, than what is the problem, he has biggest dacu of Pakistan supporting him and also Beardo supporting him, so he should have no problem winning any election if it is free and fair. :)

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This is a negative approach by IK... he should try to do while he have chance, it is already december 2014... and in no time we would be in 2015.. that means elections would be only 3 years from there... we want progress and development in Pakistan.... doesn't matter how it comes... Politicians should be keep their petty issues a side and do something about it... specially IK, otherwise he can do big rallies but he should remember gathering 100,000 in a rally won;t get him a seat in NA which needs 100,000+votes in a single constituency

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Aik taraf aap kahtay hou performance aur dusree tafar aap army general ko rotay ho. :)

Performance of a country all over world is related to economy and well being of people ... that comes when there is progress, development and building of infrastructure, accompanied by high growth rate and low inflation ... and all the statistics are available at various places regarding performance of Pakistan in every fields during various periods. So, why don't you check that?

[And yea, performance do not happen when thugs start lying ... claiming theirs what others have done, and stopping all works that they could not claim theirs ... as in this respect, PMLN is number one performer and PPP is number 2 performer]

Well, if in your mind, performance is about how some thugs become rich and majority goes hungry, than that is different matter.

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Only one question

Was PM, NS was PM during and before the elections of 2013

a yes or no would do.

but i know you would do whatever it takes and you would not be satisfies unless another stupid general takes over the country and get it dissolved for good.

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Re: 30th November - PTI Jalsa Islamabad

do you even bother to read or you are of the opinion that anarchy is only way???

Please tell me if you have problem if

1_ KPK becomes best province among all,
2_ KPK have best infrastructure
3_KPK have best educational institutes
4_ KPK becomes 1st choice for business men??

tell me with which point you have problem... and tell me why IK is not paying attention on this???

It is some idiots in IK's circle who might have been implant from NS or Zardari, with a mission to not to let IK focus on development and get him on these kind of issues...

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Re: 30th November - PTI Jalsa Islamabad

In country all can happen simultaneously, in parallel. Surely progress is happening in KPK. Transparency and development in KPK is far better than most other provinces of Pakistan.

But that does not mean, leaving thugs who are in power through Dhandli to do corruption, nepotism, loot and plunder throughout the country, as all these effects the life of people all over Pakistan, including KPK.

Why you think that IK is only leader of KPK, and should not worry about other parts of Pakistan. Dhandli is national problem that would stay if parties like PTI and PAT do not do anything. Dhandli suits status-co parties who would not do anything about it, so why keep quite about it?

Anyhow, who knows, in 2013 election, majority of people in Punjab and other parts of Pakistan also voted for PTI, but Dhandli changed the result? If that is the case, why Imran should let those suffer due to Dhandli and not work to get rid of it from the system?

It is funny that thugs who are in power due to dhandli wants to do corruption, nepotism, loot, plunder throughout the country with impunity, and when anyone says anything about dhandli and talk about their corruption, nepotism, loot and plunder, these people start crying like baby.

Why don't these thugs leave their corruption, nepotism, loot and plunder, rather start doing tasbeeh of democracy that they also know is not there in Pakistan?