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I would go for an attacking field. Our bowling is not good enough to contain the batsmen of the calibre of Dravid, Gangs and laxman.
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Well, you can't get a target of 240-280 based on Afridi, ofcourse. You need 2-3 good partnerships. I am not sure if Younis can click twice in a row, but Inzi and Yoyo will again be the key. Asim Kamal, maybe.
But that will be jumping the gun. We still need to get 7 Indian wickets. Needless to say that Dravid is the prize catch. If we can get him out early on the fourth day, I bet Inzi will launch full-scale attack to wrap up Indians on the cracking pitch. If Dravid survives the first hour, that will be big trouble for Pakistan. Then, maybe funguy's theory of slowing down the pace will come in handy. We have to remember, the more India bats, the less Pakistan will have to bat. Knowing Ganguly, he won't set an aggressive target. He will want to be comfortable and assured of not losing. That works for us.
Re: 2nd Test - Pakistan vs India - Kolkata (Merged)
And going on the offensive will make them any better?
I think it should be Danish and Afridi with a defensive field. If Pakistan restricts India to 60 runs in the first session, panic will ring in the opposition camps. They will take the risks and open up a gate for Pakistan. If Pakistan goes on the attack from the word go, there is a chance of India scoring a quickfire 120 and thus taking the game away in the first session.
Pakistan needs to stay in the match and keepIndia guessing as long as possible. That can only be achieved by restricting the flow of runs and let the clock tick.
Once India becomes unsure and starts taking risks, go full blaze attack and knock the wind out of them. But all this is easier said than done. I think tonight will be Inzi’s biggest test as a captain.
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Its hightime that Pakistan look for a German coach...he might not have good knowledge or insight of cricket...but I am sure he will drive Pakistan cricket team into deadly and horrifying discipline...aka psyche drilling...the so-called best or promising coaches may apply to become his assistants...hmmmmmmm :)
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Ithen we should go a bit defensive.
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This match is not about ‘a bit’ of anything. You either go full attack or rock back defensive. This middle path can’t be afforded by Pakistan since they have to bat last.
Re: 2nd Test - Pakistan vs India - Kolkata (Merged)
It is a risk either way and I for one would prefer an attacking field. A quickfire 120 in the first session is not indicative of an attacking field but one of bad bowling where your bowlers are not bowling to their field. In that case we might as well say goodbye to the match. But than stranger things have happened. Remember the last day at Mohali. Who knows.
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Wat the heck is wrong with Pakistan..meri sari armaan ansoon mein bhegaie!
Re: 2nd Test - Pakistan vs India - Kolkata (Merged)
I heard Tendi was hard done by Steve the Dark Prince Bucknor....Bhindians are crying as if the sky has fallen over....serves them right....where the heck were they when the umpires screwed Pakistan over royally in the first Test and even the idiotic decision metted out to Youhana......
Bhindians are the biggest cry babies and unsportsmen like people....just look at the face of Cuntumble when he was not getting any wickets because of crap bowling and was throwing the bowl at the wicket keeper in frustration after every bowl.....
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Meine *Afridi **will do his best...he wants and will to be constantly on fire...I wish he could stay at the crease for at least 35 overs(is that too much an asking)...man...man...that must be the *Tsunami of the cricket history...hmmmmmm :)
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I refuse to accept this. The biggest cry babies are MacGrath, Warnie and the whole aussie team!
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I have to agree with FG…
A lot depends upon the quality of weapons in one’s possession before setting a strategy for the war…then comes into the play the talent of those who will be using those weapons…unfortunately, we don’t have enough quality bowlers in this side…in my opinion danish is the only world class bowler in our team right now…and with only one bowler, we can not afford going too aggressive…yeah, if it were wasim , waqar and saqi musthaq, we could have set a very aggressive field because those bowlers were capable of getting a wicket on every ball. I guess our only chance is to waste as much time as possible and bowl as tight as possible to stop the flow of the runs.
As pointed out by fuguy, Indians would definitely try to score fast after lunch. India will definitely declare after attaining a lead of 350 runs. It is a nightmare to bat on Calcutta’s wicket on 5th day (remember it is the same wicket on which India beat Australia 4 years ago by bowling them out on fifth day. I am talking about the match in which laxman scored 281). But ganguly would also like to have at least 100-110 overs in his pockets to give his bowlers enough time to bowl pak out. Right now, India’s lead is 150 and it can easily afford batting for approximately 70 overs tomorrow to score 200-220 runs which will take its over all lead to 350 plus. You guys can see that India does not need to accelarte its run rate by much. All it needs to score at 3.1 runs per over. Therefore, our only chance is to contain India in the first session as much as possible. That may cause some panick in their camp. Because India will definitely declare little after tea but they would also like to have at least 350 runs lead by then…….Pakistan has very little chance to save this test match……..it is not mohali wicket…….surviving 110 overs on this wicket is almost impossible………
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^ The thing is that you cannot control the likes of Laxman, Dravid and Ganguly as pointed out by Ehsan bhai. Unless they want to bat out the time themselves (like they did in first test) they will be able to score around 3 an over so no harm in trying to pick some early wickets because they will be scoring at 3 an over eventually.
But I will agree that chances of saving this match are very slim.
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^^oooooooye 
saving the game, is not a BIG DEAL on the other hand indians should be worried that they might loose the game even if the have 300+ lead, why? coz wickets have been falling all around India/ Pakistan but the key is the run rate bot the teams have gone past 4.00+ run rate which for me is the highlight and that suggest to me is that game will get very very interesting. ofcourse you need luck to be on your side but thats not to it.
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Yrr saby, what do we have to attack?
In order to take risk and bowl aggressively, fast bowlers have to pitch full with great speed in order to produce some reverse swing on slow pitches of sub-continent…now that is the risk when you try to produce reverse swing because these full-pitched balls could easily be treated as delicious half-volleys if not bowled with enough speed and accuracy. Khalil, sami and razaq would simply end up giving at least 8 runs in a over if they try to produce reverse swing with absolutely no chance of getting a wicket. Therefore Pakistan has to be very careful before going on attack. Just keep the discipline, field really well and pray for miracles……
Re: 2nd Test - Pakistan vs India - Kolkata (Merged)
Well, if our position is that our bowling attack is unable to "attack", then the same is true for "defense" as well.
If you have truly mediocre bowlers, how hard will it be for the batsmen to take 2-3 singles and an occassional four in every over (pretty much like Y-Y did on day 2). No risk strategy, as far as Indians are concerned.
A batsman like Dravid usually gets our due to hisown mistake, and not due to skills of the bowlers. If Pakistan gets lucky early, they will most probably go for the kill.
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Not too bad a prediction!
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is ASN here yet
how is it going to work today about the link
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I think we should start posting emails in other thread !!
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I think I should get a reward for predicting 395 when everyone else was talking 500 to 700!