21 years old with Masters degree

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*Originally posted by SaadiaB: *
Alright ... but all the skipping doesn't sound "normal" either. But then you did the american foreign system .. shouldn't really suprise me, should it ?

If I read correctly, then you skipped 3 years of your education time ... hmm I don't know but here skipping classes is very verrrry tough! .. the most you can skip is one class, but 3 thats too much.

But still I know that if you came to Austria with your degree, you might have to cover those 3 "skipped" years, before they would give you your Master titel.
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Those skipped years: Again the beauty of moving so much.

5th and 6th Grade.

Back in the early 90's the primary Pakistan classes used to finish in March and then start in April or late March. We moved from pakistani in sept.

So i was in 5th (4 months) when i left. Never finished 5th grade and after placement tests they moved into 7th grade. The choice of the school.

I only skipped 2 years. No 3rd year. This is because i finished my 9th grade in the American School in Islamabad. Anyway Sept started "o levels" we moved again in July.

That was 1 full year of 10 grade for the american system. Usually when you do your o levels you have to pass your exams to move ahead. I instead took placement tests again and got into IB.

Now if the IB is equal to an Matriculation Certificate in Austria, and you hold the European system to a higher level, wouldnt that say something for my level of education?

Fraudia thanks. :)

Matsui, you dont need to get laid to become a diplomat. But hell you do get laid after becoming one. I was qualified to be a diplomat at the age of 8.

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I think by the time this debate comes to an end, CM will be 50 year old, with 2 grandkids finishing their Masters.

CM, I know the biggest Indian honcho at the UN, who finished his PhD at Tufts at the age of 22. You are in a select company.

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Bloody hell!!! PHD at 22? This the guy who heads up ECOSOC?

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^ hahaha

Why can't people just be happy? CM, don't mind the naysayers. You did well chanda, I am very proud of you. Don;t waste your intellect on policy wonkishness, you will get frustrated soon both intellectually and sexually. Join a managment consultancy. Only a tier-1 type. Then after a couple of years get a proper MBA from a school someone has heard of, then join a boutique restructuring firm as a kick ass rainmaker. Now that's what I am talking about.

Otherwise you will end up holding mushy's cigar while he takes a leak.

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*Originally posted by CM: *

Those skipped years: Again the beauty of moving so much.

5th and 6th Grade.

Back in the early 90's the primary Pakistan classes used to finish in March and then start in April or late March. We moved from pakistani in sept.

So i was in 5th (4 months) when i left. Never finished 5th grade and after placement tests they moved into 7th grade. The choice of the school.

I only skipped 2 years. No 3rd year. This is because i finished my 9th grade in the American School in Islamabad. Anyway Sept started "o levels" we moved again in July.

That was 1 full year of 10 grade for the american system. Usually when you do your o levels you have to pass your exams to move ahead. I instead took placement tests again and got into IB.

Now if the IB is equal to an Matriculation Certificate in Austria, and you hold the European system to a higher level, wouldnt that say something for my level of education?

Fraudia thanks. :)

Matsui, you dont need to get laid to become a diplomat. But hell you do get laid after becoming one. I was qualified to be a diplomat at the age of 8.
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Do you really want me to read your life history yawn :p

Well okay chanda, I was kind of teasing you .. you did well, well whatever you did, now take Matsui uncle's advice, he knows his business very well.

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No CM, not that guy, but the under-sec of the com. Mat and I are hooking up with him for a drink later in the week.

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Ok ok, mud on my face....never ever take NYA seriously.... or matsui for that matter. Private sector is not my thing really. I want a life.

SaadiaB do whatever you wish. You brought it up, you end it.

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CM, I am not kidding man. The guy's a good friend of mine. I invited him to speak at my work after 9/11 (in an unofficial capacity) and we have been friends since.

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CM, you studied too hard …now you need to work on your Image, honestly I thought for a long that you are a girl.

:hula:

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CM, you call that a life yaar? Being hounded by filthy afghanis and africans for more microfinance schemes in draught ridden/underwater mosquito ridden hovels? I take what I said about you before back by 50%.

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SaadiaB image on an internet site is irrelevant. I dont care what i come off on line. My friends know who i am.

NYA i will bit, by Under Sec your mean D2 correct? And com represents? Which committee?

Matsui money might make the world go round. It doesnt mean you have a fulfilling life. Second with the current market situation. A beaucracy offers more job security for a new graduate.

The Private sector is ruthless and i rather have job security than alot of money. 3rd experience requires contacts and my field is largely irrelavant to the private sector unless i get a law degree, which i do not want.

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*Originally posted by SaadiaB: *
No Fraudia uncle, I ain't proving anything at all, but only showing some reality.

I think there is an age for everything and 16 is just too young to finish HS. What are you guys speeding for ? enjoy HS till 18 and then go to university and finish in 4-5 years, all other is superficial.
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saadia saadia saadia, you are not a jedi knight yet.

I was just considered too intelligent to be in the same class as my age group and thus bumped ahead. This was early on in my education. after that there is no speeding, you are just 2 years ahead of others and going at the same pace.

Plus as far as enjoying went, I was able to enjoy more in college, take time to find myself, backpack in europe, excursions in mexico, slacker roadtrips across USA etc etc. oh and did i mention i took a year after highschool to take courses in areas of general interest and trained for the national squad? (that was def more fulfilling than enoying high school till 18, not that I did not enjoy my time in high school)

So I dont really see why its superficial. I dont think prior to today I really told anyone on this site that I graduated highschool at 16 because its not a big deal, and as i noted earlier I would probably not do the same for my kids because 2 years diff as children is pretty big if you are looking at social and emotional maturity, and can be a struggle. I know it was tough.

You are just having a hard time dealing with it, and that is okay, no one is thinking any less of you for not being able to be in accelerated programs :)

so lets hear more about you, what did you study and where. what do you do now, etc etc..after all this forum is for networking too and I am eager to connect with people who are infrequent visitors here

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ab samjha, you are not matric pass…

j/k

now a lot makes sense… keep changing countries or schools if you are intelligent enough you can complete your education much faster.

anyway, CM good job again :k: and good luck

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:nono: Now, now let’s be nice. :slight_smile:

Like CM, I to graduated with my Masters at 21 years (and 10 months) of age from a very prestigious Royal college in London, without any acceleration or skipping of years. It is perfectly possible in the United Kingdom to do that. :flower1:

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I finsihed my masters at 21 too, (21 years and 72 months) ;)

btw Malik, i hope that you had the sense to go to maddie and my old haunts i.e Imperial college and not that crappy lil hole in the place that NYA went to, known as LSE

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*Originally posted by CM: *
Saadia i guessed you missed the 3 years where i did a BA. If you look at the websites of Harvard and Oxford, you see that if you score high enough in your IB your first year of your BA (Freshman year) is exempt. That turns a BA into a 3 year process.

Other colleges in the US do a similar process. Haverford, Swarthmore, U Penn, NYU etc all do that.

Since IB qualifies as a highschool degree you do a 5 to 7 year program in Austria for your masters no? I completed those requirements in 4 years.

The US system gets it done in 6 years. 4 for your BA. 2 for your MA. A Masters in Europe is 1 year. So make that 5 years with an American BA and a European Masters.

Mix that with a high enough scoring IB to exempt 1 year of the American BA you get a masters in 4 years.
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Let me clarify... Its not that they just let you skip one year. They let you skip courses, depending on what your major is. If youve done your Alevels, or IB, they give you credit hours for each course that you took. For example, I had 4 Alevel subjects, and they gave me 8 credit hours per course. So I already had 32 credits when I joined college. However, some of these credits are useless, for instance, the chemistry course in my university programme was only 4 credits, and I had 8 through my Alevels. Now some universities (with lower ranks) in the US give the degree based on the total number of credits you do, but the good ones issue it when you do all the courses required in your curriculam.

Also another thing I found out recently was that they dont need high scoring grades for credits in IB. A friend had a C in his chemsitry and Davidson (a good liberal arts) college gave him his full credits, like an A grade student.

btw, were you in the international school in sector I-8/H-9?

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Fraudz, loved the way you repeated my name 3 times, I said once that you are a sweet guy and I say it again. :flower1: Well alright I might be having a hard time accepting a 21 year old getting his masters done, but then I have to explain to you, why.

Here I talk of my own country Austria. Ask anyone who has done A-Levels here and they will tell you that its quite hard. I have studied in many countries but oh boy austrian education was a killer. In addition it was in german.

About our universities (here I am talking about normal universities and not other colleges ect. ) they are free for everyone, so anyone can goto a uni after school and mostly they unis are full! So they make sure that only the best people get to complete, so you need to stick around for a very long period to get the masters done, that means, for a 8 semester course, you normally need 12-14 semesters. I know this is stupid, I have some friends who didn’t finish till the age of 24-25.

BUT I understand other countries, other rules, so it might be possible in other places but surely not here, thats what I was trying to prove.

so lets hear more about you, what did you study and where. what do you do now, etc etc..after all this forum is for networking too and I am eager to connect with people who are infrequent visitors here

OK, I will open a new thread where I will write it down, so anyone can share their academic years. :slight_smile:

Malik73, Nice to see you did so well … I am nice, but this was in reaction to something that he wrote, but its okay, we female are very emotional creatures, this explains our ups and down moods. :smiley:

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I said i skipped freshmen year because i got credits for a full year. I scored 5's and a 6 (out of 7) on my IB. So 128 credits in 4 years. That is 32 per year. I got 33 credits total. Covered me GE's and basic economic courses.

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Why is it normal to finish at 18?

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Saadia, merci on the sweetness bit. I see that I have fooled you as well. :)

anyways we all feel that our system of education is tough, my sister went to med school in Pakistan and I have not seen anyone study as hard as she did, but then She was in the top of her graduating class.

language issues are there and your point about the competition being tough is valid also. However you can find some competition to get into top schools anywhere, and in american or british schools where its not just the top students from the entire country, but the world, then you face some very tough competition as well.

I actually just recalled that someone I know took 18-21 hours per semester and full loads over summer to finish his bachelors in 3 years and saved one whole year of his time.

Anyways, I am sure that we can find ppl in austria who are ahead of their age group or behind their age group, but as i said, to each his or her own. If a kid is mentally, emotionally and socially able to jump ahead, let him..but all three have to be evaluated.