20 terrorists killed by US drone in Waziristan

Doing the job that Pakistan army refuses to do. The lies of ISPR are getting more and more ridiculous. How can their chief liar say all of this with a straight face? Love the joke made by US spokesman too: “Pakistan is a sovereign nation, and we respect sovereignty,”

I actually feel sorry for Maj Gen Waheed Arshad, having to repeat the lies fed to him.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007\06\20\story_20-6-2007_pg1_5
Over 20 die in US attack on Taliban hideout

** ISPR spokesman says explosions caused when militants accidentally set off bombs*

Staff Report

MIRANSHAH/PESHAWAR: A madrassa reportedly used by the Taliban as a hideout in North Waziristan was attacked by a US-controlled drone on Tuesday, killing over 20 militants and wounding 15, security sources told Daily Times.

“Two missiles were fired from a pilotless spy plane at around 10am and initial reports say 17 people were killed,” the security officials said on condition of anonymity.

However, military spokesman Maj-Gen Waheed Arshad said that the explosions were caused when bombs militants were making at an isolated “camp” accidentally exploded. “There is no truth in the report that missiles were fired from a pilotless drone,” he said. “No such attack from across the border has taken place.”

“The local administration reported that a group of militants were killed when explosives they were using went off. There are reports that around 20 militants were killed,” the spokesman said.

He did not say foreign militants were among the dead. “Information coming out from the area, very far flung, will take time to reach us,” he said.

The madrassa was attacked in Sher Ali Ghundeh in Datta Khel tehsil, 60 kilometres west of Miranshah, that is a stronghold of tribal militants.

In December 2005, an Al Qaeda suspect Abu Hamza was killed in similar fashion. The government initially said he was killed by an explosion inside a house and not by a missile fired from a US drone. However, photographs by tribal journalist Hayatullah Khan contradicted the government claim. The journalist was kidnapped five days after the incident and was found dead on June 16 last year.

The Tuesday airstrike is the deadliest since September 5, 2006, when the government reached a peace deal with local Taliban. A few days ago, pamphlets were dropped, reportedly by Afghan helicopters, inside North Waziristan warning militants they would be chased if they continued to stage attacks inside Afghanistan.

Agencies add: “I am not aware of any reports of any missiles being fired from Afghanistan into Pakistan,” said Lt Col David Accetta, spokesman for the US-led coalition in Afghanistan. “Pakistan is a sovereign nation, and we respect sovereignty,” he told AP.

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Who ever killed the terrorists or what ever killed the terrorists is irrelevant as long as the terrorists are dead .:)

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khas kam jahan paak

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i actually read the poll has climbed to 32. And that is a very bayhuda way of getting rid of khas without even bothering to give the neighbourhood a warning and with out proving a solid case. it is so sad that Pakistanis show little interest in lives of fellow pakistanis. Here is another look at it in the news today.

*Villagers say US drone fired two missiles; ISPR claims blasts caused during bomb-making

*By By Rahimullah Yusufzai & Mohammad Yasin

PESHAWAR/MIRANSHAH: Thirty persons were killed and scores of others sustained injuries on Tuesday when a Madrassa and two adjacent houses were hit by missiles in the Dattakhel area of North Waziristan near the border with Afghanistan, villagers and intelligence officials said.

The Reuters news agency quoted unnamed officials as saying that at least 32 people were killed in the attack The death toll could be higher as tribesmen from Dattakhel who reached Miranshah, headquarters of North Waziristan, bought 24 wooden coffins in the bazaar and ordered another 24. The tribesmen searched all the markets in Miranshah looking for caskets and bought the readily available 24 coffins.

Quoting villagers in Mami Noma Manzarkhel, the remote village that was attacked with missiles, tribal and militants sources in Miranshah said 50 students and their teachers were present in the Binori Madrassa when it was hit and all of them were killed or injured. They said casualties also occurred in the adjoining two houses. One report said 25-30 people lost their lives in the attack. The villagers reported seeing a drone that had flown from Afghanistan around 10 a.m. on Tuesday firing two missiles at the seminary and flattening its structure.

Earlier, military spokesman Major-General Waheed Arshad, who is also Director-General of the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR), claimed that several casualties occurred when bombs being made by militants accidentally exploded. He said the place where the explosions took place was a training facility.

In the past also, the military authorities have explained similar occurrences as a consequence of explosions accidentally caused by bomb-makers. One notable case of similar nature was the attack on a house a couple of years ago in which alleged al-Qaeda figure Hamza Rabia was killed along with some local tribesmen in a village near Mir Ali, also in North Waziristan. The government insisted on that occasion also that Hamza Rabia and the tribesmen were killed while making bombs but a tribal journalist, Hayatullah, proved it wrong by taking pictures of shrapnels of missiles fired by a US drone while attacking the al-Qaeda hideout. Hayatullah was soon afterwards abducted and his bullet-ridden body was found five months later.

No claim about presence of any “high-value target” in the alleged training facility was made this time by the military authorities. The US military in keeping with its past practices didn’t comment on the incident.

Following Tuesday’s incident, an intelligence official in North Waziristan told The News and other media organisations that three missiles fired from Afghanistan hit the training facility for militants and killed 17 people. Requesting anonymity because he wasn’t authorized to speak to the media, he said another 15 persons were wounded in the attack. He declined to provide details whether the missiles were fired by the pilotless US and CIA-owned Predator planes that are equipped with the fairly accurate Hellfire missiles.

Across the border from the targetted Pakistani village is Afghanistan’s Paktika province, where US-led coalition jets bombed a compound containing a mosque and Madrassa on Monday and killed several people, including seven children aged 10 to 16. Most of those killed in the Madrassa in North Waziristan Tuesday were also stated to be young religious students.

The remoteness of the Mami Noma Manzarkhel village, which was written as Mami Rogha in dispatches by wire services, made it difficult to get details of the attack. The few telephones in the area, located around 75 kilometres west of Miranshah, were not working. The targetted village, sited 16 kilometres from Dattakhel town in the Sher Ali Ghundai area, is close to the border with Afghanistan. The mud-built Binori Madrassa was located at some distance from the village.

It was intriguing to note that US helicopters had reportedly dropped leaflets in the border areas of both North Waziristan and South Waziristan last Saturday warning the tribes living there not to launch attacks in Afghanistan. The leaflets in Pashto language threatened them with attacks involving chemical weapons if attacks across the Pak-Afghan border were not stopped and military training camps in Waziristan were not closed. A further provocation were pictures of B-52 bombers printed on the leaflets as if threatening the Pakistani tribes that they would be bombed by these feared US fighter planes.

Our Parachinar correspondent adds: Coalition forces in the neighbouring Afghanistan on Tuesday violated Pakistan’s airspace six times by flying over the Kurram tribal agency that created panic among the residents.

The coalition forces had called for air support after an attack on their military camps in Afghanistan’s Danda Pathan area by unknown assailants which was followed by heavy fighting. There were reports that nine missiles were fired on the US camp. Two of their planes entered Pakistan’s Kurram Agency for at least six times and continued flying over the agency for several minutes.

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u have missed the point, concerning Pak sovereignty

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1- how do we know they were terrorists?
2- what does it say about a govt. when it refuses to try these terrorists within the ambit of its own judicial system and kills them without any check or oversight.

then again maybe we r too conditioned by the PTV *khabarnamas *to question the govt. when it brands someone terrorist; rejoicing instead in their killing.

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Croq,

Link for you post # 4 pls!

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You got that alright :k: Busharraf says they were terrorists then they were :dhimpak:

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Excatly, these mush desciples are brainswashed to such extremes that if Mush bombs their own houses with their immediate families getting killed, they will be the first ones exclaiming, "my father the terrorist got killed or my mother the terrorist got killed, etc. etc."...Furthermore, their anti-pushtun bigotry knows no bound...as long as these tribal pushtuns who according to them, even though they are citizens of Pakistan, have to rights and can be extra-judicially massacred on the whim of their beloved fat-gutted, drunken dictator...

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^^ Your anti-karachiite bigotry knows no bounds either.

What is it? Pot calling kettle black? :omg:

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First qualify how I am bigoted against Karachites…unless if you equate MQM terrorists with all Karachites…

Secondly…a big honking news flash for your benefit…I am from Karachi…

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hey man if extra judicial killing of ppl in Karachi during naseerullah barbarian's operation can be justified as collateral damage and reasonable price to pay to get rid of MQM terror, then by all means some tribals getting in the way as collateral damage can be considered acceptable price as well.

Although we have not heard much from the tribals from the previous attack when the nutjobs were meeting at some place were bombed. The tribals shut up after rosters of names of ppl meeting there and their ages were presented. if there was something else to it, why would media let it just go?

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do be more specific, are you a pashtoon karachite?

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do be more specific,r u muslim mr fraudia?...if then i wonder wht future holds for us...huh american pakis..

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Well said...

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Two wrongs make a right I guess...

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wah..wht an arguement..wah... wah...
khas kam jahan paak wah..even heared media censorship policy??...do u think our media is free from the influence of agencies or army??...everyone knows tht in bajaur,many children died..who is responsible?...do u ever met any tribal guy??..if then u should be worry abt emotions against army...i hate secular people like u..
u people r happy on the murder of ur own people at the hands of americans..wah...wht a beautiful freedom country we have..

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You assume that I am secular..

and this is not my argument, it is a parallel I am drawing to the argument that the fans of naseerullal barbarian make when they are in awe and admration of his ill planned and ill executed operation in karachi. if that can be justified then by all means this can be justified.

now as far as media goes..forget Pakistani media in Pakistan, No one has covered it and refuted the claims that people there were not terrorists, the voices disappeared after the lists of names were shown. why is that? they can be anti govt when it comes to the may 12th mess, or lal masjid stand off, or other things, but not this? is it due to lack of ability or lack of real maerial, or is it because qaum has moved on and dont really give a damn about the terrorists that were killed there?

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that is not an answer, your argument was that you were a karachiite, and I asked you to be more specific and tell us whether you were a pashtun karachiite. You did not answer.

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so u are admitting that naseerullah barbarian was wrong?
thanks for seeing the light finally