2- The Methodology Of Ibn ^Abdul-Wahhab and twisting verses of Qur'an!

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We know it all.

Ibn ^Abdul-Wahhab took the verses revealed to speak about the blasphemers and applied them to the Muslims, and this is one of their big methods to through poison. As you probably have seen some even in this forum where trying to do the same thing!. The following examples from the Qur’an illustrate this point. Allah, ta^ala, said in Surat al-Ahqaf, Ayah 5:
This verse means: [Who is more astray than the one who performs supplication (du^a’) to [worship] other than Allah; the one other than Allah he supplicates to will not answer his du^a’.]
Allah, ta^ala said in Surat Yunus, Ayah 106 :
This verse means: [Do not perform supplication (du^a’) to [worship] other than Allah; the one other than Allah you supplicate to will not benefit you and will not harm you.]

The verses in the Qur’an similar to these ones are numerous. Muhammad Ibn ^Abdul-Wahhab gravely misinterpreted the previously cited verses and said: “The Muslim who asks help from the Prophet, sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam, other prophets, or the righteous people (salihun), or who calls or asks any of them for intercession is like those blasphemers mentioned in the Qur’an.” According to the false claim of Ibn ^Abdul-Wahhab, the Muslims who do these things are blasphemers.

He also considered visiting the grave of Prophet Muhammad and the graves of other prophets and righteous Muslims for blessings as blasphemy. Allah revealed Ayah 3 of Surat az-Zumar in reference to the mushrikun:
This verse means: [Those who worship the idols said: “We do not worship them except to achieve a higher status from Allah.”]

Ibn ^Abdul-Wahhab falsely stated: “Those who perform tawassul (asking Allah by the prophets, for example) are similar to those blasphemers mentioned in Surat az-Zumar, Ayah 3, who claim they do not worship the idols except to achieve a higher status from Allah.” He said: “The blasphemers did not believe the idols create anything; they believed Allah is the Creator.” He gave his version of proof from the Qur’an by citing Surat Luqman, Ayah 25 and Surat az-Zumar, Ayah 38, in which Allah said:
These verses mean: [If you ask them, ‘Who created the heavens and earth?’ They will say, ‘Allah’.]

In Surat az-Zukhruf, Ayah 87, Allah said:
Which means: [If you ask them, ‘Who created them?’ They will say, ‘Allah’.] Ibn ^Abdul-Wahhab falsely concluded from these verses that the Muslims who perform tawassul are similar to those blasphemers.

O Allah protect us from deviating, deviations, and from deviators.

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Can you please provide explicit referances to the works of Muhammed ibn Abdul Wahab, so that I can judge for myself?

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AhmedG I await your response. You either have referances or you are speading innuendo. If I were to say that so and so said such a thing, I will give you the referance from his or her published statements and books.

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hahaa,

Man, many of the guppies and I have been asking him for references, but he does not have any. Those things he is posting about wahabis are false. IF he gives you the references its like this: “there is a hadith” “prophet said this/that” “sahaaba did this/that” no solid name of the book or any other real references which would make on believe his devilish intentions. I mean to fabricated a hadith to make your point and prove your self right is not what Muslim does and not in Month of Ramadan certainly.

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Let him (AhmedG) read the kitab at-thala (the three books of at-Tawheed)by Muhammed ibn Abdul Wahab and tell me what sentance/phrase/word he objects to.

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Still waiting mr AhmedG..............

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Let him ask his brailvi alim to fabricate some hadiths for him. Then he will come. I am sure he is gone hadiths shopping.

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So-Called watcher, remember: Allah is your hasseeb. Your insults over and over are not going to prove anything. But don't worry I won't do what you do, I won't insult you back.

For the references of the wahabies I will put as much as I can for you with no problem, but am expecting input and output. But I want you to know, that I won't have references such as go to this link or this url because we did not learn from the internet nor from reading books that we make up their meanings. I learned the Shafi^iy fiqh along the hanafy from knowledgable people who fear Allah and have learned from knowledgable people... and so. So my references would be as I have for the other issues: mentioned in that book page so and so. Or the hadith mentioned by so from the sahabah and so from the scholars 'which means' so.. because the hadith was in Arabic so in English would be it's meaning mr so-called watcher!. And putting references like that should be sufficient as we see in the books of the scholars. They would mention the ayah and than mention it's meaning as So from the scholars interperted it! not as anyone wants to interpert it.

I hope that mr so-called watcher cools it down and become aware that he's going off limits with insults and not accepting the facts. As he asked for references meaning that he will be convinced if the references were true and when he saw them, he rejected them.

Know that I'm doing this for the sake of Allah and not for my sake, "Mulla's" sake, or a sect's sake and Allah knows that. where some are just defending for their sects' sake.

May Allah guide us to the truth.

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But when you make an assertion against a scholar, you have to provide me with the referances in his books. Untill you have done this your statements do not hold.

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Wahabies As history tells and as Hempher admits. Read the books called:

as I searches for info about this sect on the net, read about their history in:
http://www.hizmetbooks.org/British_Spy_Hempher/spy_1-7.htm
www.wahabies.cjb.net
http://www.aicp.org/html/fitnat-ul-wahhabiyyah.html
http://www.aicp.org/html/the_history_of_the_fighting_wi.html

and read in: www.islamistrue.com

All about wahabies.

And I have looked into their own books that I have which I have referenced!! find out what they say and what the jews say!!

The Jews say in their book “safar Youhanna al Is-hah” (4) number (9) jews say: “and praise to the one who is sitting on his throne al Haiyy..” So they believe Allah is in the sky sitting wal ^iyathoubillah.

Wahhabies say in their book “Majmoo^ Al Fatawah” 4th book, p/374 for ibn taymiah and he is their imam as they call him the master of Islam!! they say: “Allah seats Muhammad the on the chair with Him”!!! Which is clear Kufur to say such. That is not Islam.

Jews say in the same book number 26-27: “God said, we will make human on our look and format”.. Look like God!!

Wahhabies say in the book called “Ahl Al Iman fi khalq adam”.. Authored by Hamood bin ^abdillah at-Tuwayjariyy.. Page 40: Wahhabies say: “Allah created humans looking like him (^ala Surati wajhihi)” A^outhubillah!! Allah said in Al Qur’an: [Nothing resembles Allah]..

Jews say in the same book page 4: “the lord is the father living in the sky”

Wahhabiah say in the book called “Rad al-Darmy ^ala bash-shar Al Mircy” and it is one of the their references p/82: Wahhaby author says: “Yes, He (Allah) is on his throne on top of the creations on the highest place”!! I seek refuge by Allah. Imam ^aliy said: “Allah existed and there was no place and now he exists as he was” that is without a place because Allah does not need the place. Allah does not need any of his creations. He exists without place does not look like any of his creations. Although some translated the Qur’an in some verses alleging their meanings wrongfully saying that Allah sits on the throne, that’s impossible, because Allah existed before the throne and he was without any place.

This is a very few of what Al Wahhabiya say.

Al-Albaniyy (Big leader of the wahhabies, died recently Al Hamdulillah) says: it’s Kufur for the Palestinians to stay in Palestine"!! Look at Al-Liwa’ Newspaper date 7/7/93 and book: “Fatawi Al Albaniy” p/18… Why did he say that? Ask them.

Also Al wahhabiah say that the believers other than them(!) are Kuffar and they are worthy of being slayed and their property and women and children are halal to be taken even though they praise the people of Shirk and the jews and the Mushriks of Quraysh who faught the Prophet Sallallahu ^alayhi wassallam and opposed him such as Abi Lahb and Abi Jahl, for, they are believers to wahhabies and they claim that they are most pious and sincere to Allah more than the ones who make tawassul and tabarruk to the Awliya’. Not only they had that belief, but they also wrote it and put in a book called “How do we understand Tawheed” Authored by Ahmad Bashmeel and it was distributed in Ridad year 1987.

And they declared blasphemy to the leaders of the four Madahib (As-Shafi^iy, Abu Hanifah, Malik and Ahmad bin Hanmbal) and to the followers of the four Madhahib. Yes they had the guts to say such ugly things. Look in their book “Ad-Deen Al Khalis” p/140 printed in Beirut/Lebanon.!!! Allahu-Akbar. Why? Ask them. Check the reference.

Want more? I don’t, but I shall give you more until you know who wahhabies are.
Al Wahhabiah say that lady eve is Kafirah!! And so they said that all humans are Children of Zina – Adultery!!! look into the same book p/160 Al wahhabiah say: “the truth that Shirk started from Lady eve (Hawwa’ wife of Prophet Adam).. I can not say more!!.

To them if you say “Astaghfirullah” (O Allah Forgive me) is haram!! Look at Magazine “Al Aman issue# 70 year 1980 p/20.!!

And they even went ahead and made takfeer (Blasphemed) a sahabiyy, a companion of the Prophet Aby Ayouub Al Ansaraiyy because he put his face on the grave Prophet Muhammad because he was visiting the grave of the Prophet excitedly to the Prophet. And that wahhabiy who made that takfeer teaches in Jordan. A man once told him why:? Why do you do that?! Al Wahhabiy said: “even if Muhammad (He means Prophet Muhammad the son of ^Abdullah) did that than the Prophet Blasphemed”!!! Allahu-Akbar, Allahu-Akbar, Allahu-Akbar. Astaghfiruka Rabiyy wa Atoobu Ilayk. A^outhu Billah.

And they say about Al Asha^irah and Al Maturidiayh (Whom are the Top Scholars of Ahlus-Sunnah) they say: “They are Kuffar.. “…!

If you want to know the truth about Muhammad bin ^abdilwahhab and his people, just read what his father and his brother and the people of his country say about him. His father was a true scholar as well as his brother and his father used to say “this child (about Muhammad bin ^abdilwahhab) will be a great danger to Muslims”..

And His brother Sheikh Sulaiman Bin ^abdilwahhab, may Allah have mercy on them because they were great scholars, Sheikh Sulaiman made a book called “ AL Sawa^iq Al Illahiyyah to refute the wahhabiayh” and in it he said to his brother and his followers: “However you have taken things by your own opinion and thoughts and you have opposed the Ijma^ and declared all of the Ummah of Prophet Muhammad as Kuffar”. Look into that book page 17. They blaspheme everyone who opposes them and they try to kill him. And that’s because of the orders that Muhammad bin Abdilwahhab got from his teacher Hempher the British spy!!.

As Hempher mentions in page 77 that the first bill between the treaties that happened between him and Muhammad bin ^abdilwahhab is: “To Blaspheme all Muslims, and to bid killing them and to take their money and to commit whatever unlawful with their women and to sell them..” Second bill: “to destroy Al Ka^bah claiming that it’s from the signs of the Idols…” Read the Book: “Hempher the British spy”..

And to prove that they are Wahhabies and that the name fits them is what was mentioned in a book they wrote by the name “Muhamad Bin ^abdilwahhab, his Salafi creed” .. it says: “when he met with the wahhabies in Makkah”.. and he says: “but the Wahhaby belief..” and: “They use Islam as a religion on the Wahhaby creed..”..

Another leader named Muhammad bin jameel, a wahhabiy lecturer in our holy Makkah says: “Wahhabiy from Wahhab, and it’s from the names of Allah..” and there he lied because wahhabiy from Muhammad bin Abdilwahhab the deviator.. Also they named a book called “The wahhabiy movement”

So, Al wahhabiyah are the enemies of Muslims and the lovers of the jews and blasphermers. I can not say more.

I hope this will clarify to wahhabies that Muslims are not the same as Jews. And that we believe in Allah as he mentioned in Al Qur’an the only one who deserves to be worshiped and that Allah does not resemble any of his creations. Allah exists without a place, does not need any of the creations, he creates the good and the evil, but ordered us to avoid the evil. And that Muslims worldwide love Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu ^alayhi wassallam, the seal of Prophets and messengers, the best of Allah’s creations, and that we go and visit the Prophet in the grave and yes we do ask Allah blessings from by the virtue of Prophet Muhammad and the ‘Awliya’, and no, we do not ask Prophet Muhammad nor ‘Awliya’ to do this and that for us because they are only humans but with high very high rank. I hope that will also tell the wahhabies, that Muslims celebrate the Birth of Prophet Muhammad worldwide for the endowment that Allah endowed onto us by bringing Prophet Muhammad to the world and guiding us to the light of Islam. We do not worship Muhammad nor scholars and whoever does that is not Muslim. We love prophet Muhammad because he is our leader and role model.. Whom do we love than? Abdilwahhab? Ibn Taymiah? Ibn Baz? Al-Albany? The Jews? No, not even in their dreams.

How about that for references?!! And if any think that he is a wahabi and does not have these beliefs, or think that wahabies did not have these deviations, let him proove that NOW and I will wait forever for him!!

How could I accept a sect saying things like that!! How could Mulims bear what they say?! Isn’t enough for them to know that they are A SECT! in which the prophet clarified to stay away from sects!.

Allah Ta^ala knows best.

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So Admin/Moderator:

If Ahmad G can bash and post lies about other sect which he has no knowledge of, why can't I post stuff from shia books(al-Kafi)???

I mean look at him, he has been opening posts, in month of ramadan bashing and telling lies about people who follow strict Sunnah and Quran, and yet you people out there are doing nothing. Why does it fire up everyone when I or someone posts stuff from shia books, and says they are wrong. But when likes of Ahmad G(the fabricators and liars) post stuff which is NOT true, and that might lead to fights because of his lies you guys just sitting there doing nothing. Where is your call of "offending the beliefs of others" now?

I am not taking any sides, or defending anyone. I am defending everyone rights to be treated fairly and with some sort of justice. So, I ask and call to you to have this disease, the liar, the trouble maker, Ahmad G stop his useless, pointless campaign against the other sects(people) before, someone comes along and shows his true origins, the origins of his sect brailviyaat. Now, that would offend you? Think, what he is doing to Muslims, by posting false and misleading information, don't you think that is offending anyone out there? Or do you think, only shia and Ahmadis are offended when someone posts articles which came from their own books?

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