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The only difference is that most of the Hindus are secular minded while most of the muslims are not.
For the first time, you hit the nail on the head :) This distinction between Hindus & Muslims has been the root cause of communal tensions in India.
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What rioters? When was the last time you heard of rioters in Pakistan slaughtering 3000 people? Thats really an Indian phenomnon… The only other place where this has happened was in Nazi Germany, poor unstable countries of Africa, and ancient Barbarians and Dark Age Europe… So atleast your in good company. 
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You do a great job of exposing your nation secular fraud for what it is… A civilized society would have found a way out of this through dialogue and compramise… In India, a problem is solved like everything else, through mob justice :). This is why Pakistan was made, to escape extremists and bigots like you..
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Communal riots can happen only in country where there are different communities living. Pak does not have a minority community sizeable enough to riot.
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I dont think anyone is debating the logic behind creation of Pak. However, everyone with anti-India feelings should have moved to Pak (or been forced to move). India would have been better off without anti-national elements living in the country.
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The perhaps we need another Pakistan to be ripped out of your country… You can start by freeing those poor nonsecular souls of Kashmir.. Perhaps Hyderabad Deccan should be a new Pakistan…
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Removing the non-secular elements from India is a better place to start :)
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Yes actually they were forced out of India… Now a days, such people are murdered or imprisoned. Great example of Indias freedom. Your just the kind of close minded bigot which people with any sincerity to Indias so called freedom and secular ethos should be decouncing.. The fact that they dont, only exposes you for what everybody exposes your country for what it is… A nation of fanatics for whom everything is black and white… A nation of George Bush’s 
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Mass ethnic cleansing… You are descendants of Aryans afterall… 
Dont worry, you have the likes of Modi to make your dream a reality.
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Who is anti-national? I strongly believe that VHP and RSS are anti-national elements in the country and they do all sorts of mischief and disturb the peace in the country. So by applying your logic these establishments and their supporters must be definitely kicked out from India.
If you mean muslims to be anti-nationals then 30% of undivided India should have belonged to Pakistan since muslims constituted 30% of the total population. Then all Hindus could have lived in peace in the rest of 70% of the land. Are Hindus like you prepared to accept this formula?
Kashmir has over 65% muslim population and majority of them are considered anti national. If we consider Kashmir to be an integral part of India then Kashmiris too are part of India whether they are anti-national or not. If you say that Kashmiris should be kicked out from Kashmir because they are anti national then I will say that every Hindu who is anti-muslim must be kicked out from India.
KASHMIR PROBLEM BEGAN IN 1990 IN RESPONSE TO HINDU FANATICISM WHICH STARTED IN 1985 AND WHICH DEMANDED THAT THE SPECIAL STATUS ACCORDED TO KASHMIR MUST BE SCRAPPED
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If you mean muslims to be anti-nationals then 30% of undivided India should have belonged to Pakistan since muslims constituted 30% of the total population. Then all Hindus could have lived in peace in the rest of 70% of the land. Are Hindus like you prepared to accept this formula?
Kashmir has over 65% muslim population and majority of them are considered anti national. If we consider Kashmir to be an integral part of India then Kashmiris too are part of India whether they are anti-national or not. If you say that Kashmiris should be kicked out from Kashmir because they are anti national then I will say that every Hindu who is anti-muslim must be kicked out from India.
KASHMIR PROBLEM BEGAN IN 1990 IN RESPONSE TO HINDU FANATICISM WHICH STARTED IN 1985 AND WHICH DEMANDED THAT THE SPECIAL STATUS ACCORDED TO KASHMIR MUST BE SCRAPPED
I am talking about anti-nationals; you are the one who is mentioning Muslims. Read my post carefully before jumping on it.
And since you are making this a Hindu-Muslim issue, lets get one thing clear. People like Modi/Advani could be called criminals but they do not support another country & dont get any kind of support from them. They need to be dealt with as Indian criminals. The people that you are advocating, get active support from Pak to indulge in anti-India activities. Do you see the difference ?
Go back & re-read history. Kashmir problem started in 1947-48 when Pak sent 'kabayalis' to fight in Kashmir. And Pak sponsored terrorists have changed the demographics of present day Kashmir so that it is overwhelmingly Muslim today.
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As far Taliban versus VHP, remember that during Babri Mosque distruction, Hindu Fundamentalist govt (BJP) was in power in U.P. and it had all the control over law and enforcement.
Also remember, when ADVANI tried to create trouble in the country in the name of Ram temple and was passing through Bihar, LALU got him arrested and handcuffed him. But KALYAN SINGH allowed the distruction and even today he is proud of this. If LALU or MULAYAM would have been the chief minister of U.P. then all VHP leaders and Hindu fundamentalist would have been behind bars and it would have been impossible to distroy the structure.
There is no difference between Taliban and VHP. The only difference is that most of the Hindus are secular minded while most of the muslims are not.
I only said that if muslims dont even pray there why not allow hindus to build the temple there. I didnt get an answer from you about how is a mosque is important to the muslims.
I think its more about sensitivities. Historicaly there have been many temples distroyed by muslim rulers. may not be babrimasjid but still ayodhya holds a very important place in Hindu epics. what does it hold for muslims.
I tell u whats the problem is. I going to be blunt in that. Muslims dont like anything being imposed on them. They have historicaly ruled India and that hangover remains in most of them. Hindus on the other hand were subjected to rule which many of the muslim rulers were not too nice on them. Now some of the hindus think its time to set things right. Besides creating of pakistan only fuelled these unrest.
I have already said that bringing down babri was wrong. Congress was in power in the center. BJp bangs on sensationalism, advanis arrest only made him more popular. lallu and mulayam was in power for decades why was not even once kalyan behind bars. Kalyan when he broke away from BJP even teamed up with mulayam and talking all secular crap.
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When did muslims compromise. I have never seen them compromise even once. If muslims were ready for compromise then babri would not have happened in the first place. BJP would not have been strong like this.For around 50 years there were diologues. Nothing happened.
Oh yar dont start me on what pakistan does with mob violence. How many shias were killed in mob violence. U cant have peace with ur own muslim brothers and come here lecturing about how hindus and muslim should live together. :)
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The best way to wipe out the differences between Hindu and Muslim is to ban all Madarsas and RSS Shakhas. These are the breeding grounds for fanatic elements.
Albania has 70% muslim population and 30% christian population. The muslim-christian riots in late 1940's took such a heavy toll in the country that the Albanian govt finally banned all the mosques and churches. This really brought the peace in Albania.
May be eventually India too will do a similar thing if Hindu-Muslim conflict becomes a menace to the country's peace.
Be proud to call yourself an Indian (But not a Hindu or a Muslim) Banish the slogan "GARV SE KAHO HUM HINDOO HAIN".
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Albania has 70% muslim population and 30% christian population. The muslim-christian riots in late 1940's took such a heavy toll in the country that the Albanian govt finally banned all the mosques and churches. This really brought the peace in Albania.
May be eventually India too will do a similar thing if Hindu-Muslim conflict becomes a menace to the country's peace.
Be proud to call yourself an Indian (But not a Hindu or a Muslim) Banish the slogan "GARV SE KAHO HUM HINDOO HAIN".
I will go still further..ban all conversions. ban giving ur religion in passports. Ban caste and denominations. have uniform civil law. Ban recruiting agencies those recruiting only muslims or hindus to gulf and other countries. If these things would happen in India.. and implemented then India will be a developed nation in 10 years.
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Albania has 70% muslim population and 30% christian population. The muslim-christian riots in late 1940's took such a heavy toll in the country that the Albanian govt finally banned all the mosques and churches. This really brought the peace in Albania.
May be eventually India too will do a similar thing if Hindu-Muslim conflict becomes a menace to the country's peace.
Be proud to call yourself an Indian (But not a Hindu or a Muslim) Banish the slogan "GARV SE KAHO HUM HINDOO HAIN".
Unfortunately, while most Hindus put their country above their religion (or at par), most Muslims do not. For them, religion comes first which leads to a lot of controversies.
I agree with you & vineshvk - have a uniform civil code, close all madrassas & RSS shakhas, anyone who incites or flames religious extremism should be punished etc etc.
However, I am not sure all this is possible in India as long as we are a democracy since there are so many different directions the govt. gets pulled in.