True say. If you study the history, it appears like a decision was made out of ignorance (if not innocence) as opposed to deliberately composing a cunning plan to suppress anyone's rights. So any manipulation of narrative to put the blame on latter is simple dishonesty and agenda ridden craftiness which needs to be challenged.
Who is to say Bengalis would have not resolved this issue with Jinnah himself through dialogue had he lived for another 5-10 years? The language of issue was always resolvable, and Bengalis knew that. The systematic betrayal of keeping them out of corridors of power was far more unacceptable and insulting.
At least with whole Urdu language issues, all ethnicities were in it together. But with socio-economic inequalities, it felt like a proper isolation and ganging up by the powerful groups.
Pakistan's founding fathers were not infallible, the biggest example is the inclusion of Bangladesh in Pakistan to begin with. It was not feasible from the very first day. There is nothing in common between the two other than religion.
shah sahib, yae aap kaya farma rahay hain...yes we dont have much common with them except our religion but if we exclude east pakistan from pakistan movement, not much is left behind. muslim league was conceived in east pakistan. remember nawab waqar ul malk and all others who founded muslim league in dacca in 1906.
east pakistan played a big role in pakistan movement but we always keep their contribution low key in our history books. as a matter of fact, central india and east pakistan played the biggest role in pakistan movement. our current punjab was ruled by land lords and other than lahore and muslim students in some of lahore colleges, i dont think current punjab was very active in pakistan movement.
bangladesh was pakistan and pakistan is bangladesh. maybe you are suggesting that bangladesh should have been separated as a separate muslim country but banagalis were equally passionate about pakistan movement. they never asked for a separate country
shah sahib, yae aap kaya keh rahya hain...yes we dont have much common with them but if we exclude east pakistan from pakistan movement, not much is left behind. muslim league was conceived in east pakistan. remember nawab waqar ul malk and all others who founded muslim league in dacca in 1906. east pakistan played a big role in pakistan movement but we always keep that portion low key in our history books. as a matter of fact, central india and east pakistan played the biggest role in pakistan movement. our current punjab was ruled by land lords and other than lahore and muslim students in some of its institutions, i dont think current punjab was very active in pakistan movement.
bangladesh was pakistan and pakistan is bangladesh. maybe you are suggesting that bangladesh should have been separated as a separate muslim country but banagalis were equally passionate about pakistan movement.
I know that, the politicians from East Pakistan were the forefront of the Pakistan movement. But looking back now, I don't think the idea of a scattered Pakistan was feasible. Punjab didn't want to be part of Pakistan till the very end, they wanted their unified kind of greater Punjab. But Quaid e Azam believed Pakistan is not possible without Punjab. In mid 40's Punjab jumped into the band wagon.
I know that, the politicians from East Pakistan were the forefront of the Pakistan movement. But looking back now, I don't think the idea of a scattered Pakistan was feasible. Punjab didn't want to be part of Pakistan till the very end, they wanted their unified kind of greater Punjab. But Quaid e Azam believed Pakistan is not possible without Punjab. In mid 40's Punjab jumped into the band wagon.
You are challenging the founder of Pakistan and later fraud marka do quomi nazria.
^Two nation theory is true. in some parts of Pakistan it is on religious grounds and in other parts of subcontinent on cultural grounds, right? having said that Sindh culturally belongs to India as Raja Dahir is glorified by your leaders.
Sindh’s ideology of religion does neither belongs to worshiping invaders and nor it is six pillar of our religion to follow history written by darbari qaseeda go (fake historians). Raja Dahir may not be a hero, but MQB and Hajjaj are not our heroes because they just made an investment by attacking Sindh. Hajjaj (the man involved in permitting african slaves to rape daughters and granddaughters of sahaba e rasool in Makkah and Medina) did not come to save an Arab girl. He came after promising King (so called Khalifa) 7th times return on cost of war expenses.
^ You belongs to sindh you know very well that raja dahir is your hero. Now its not sindh bashing its fact a fact about sindh. your funny criticism of hajjaj that he looted sindh can be discussed as well but one thing is for sure that everage sindhi don't know that history to hate him on moral grounds.
What else is called bashing mere bhai? You should think twice before giving statements like 'Sindh belongs to India culturally'. Or you want to prove Sindhis agents of India? Go read history specially the movement of separation of Sindh from Bombay residency. Sindh's culture is not discrimination based on religion. Thats why we revere poets like Bulleh Shah and Sachal Sarmast. Two nations theory was definitely unnatural for Sindh's ideology considering the peaceful co-existence of different religions in Sindh.
Two nations' theory was an idea to address economical problems, but over the time it proved that it has put a sizable population at economic disadvantage. Look at Muslims of India and their economic condition. In this era of globalisation such stupid discriminatory ideas should not be treated like a statement written in scripture.
First people like you tagged Bengalis traitors because they loved non-Muslim poets of Bengal including Tagore and now its Sindh for not accepting Arab looters as their heores. No sane nation loves the looters / invaders. Waris Shah talked against Durrani. Firdosi did not praise Arabs. So whats the difference when Sindhis adapted this natural tendency?
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your funny criticism of hajjaj that he looted sindh can be discussed as well but one thing is for sure that everage sindhi don't that history to hate him on moral grounds.
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First, Sindhi intellectuals were brought into discussion unnecessarily by OP in this thread. Then you brought Sindhi leaders glamorising Raja Dahir. Now you are questioning average Sindhi's knowledge about Hajjaj's kartoot. Mere Bhai! Considering your assumption for knowledge of an average Sindhi, he/she might not know who was Raja Dahir. In fact its not average Sindhi's basic life and death problem to decide who is their hero, and you are judging them for hating Hajjaj. lols. carry on.
^lolz i am not into business of knowing who like which poet but you dishonestly attribute such things to me. I am just talking about facts.... the problems with united pakistan.
let me tell you once and for all what the dishonesty is?
Dishonesty is when you sitting in Punjab give strong statements like tandoor walas in Karachi serve roti first to Muahjirs and then non-Muhajirs.
Dishonesty is when without visiting Sindh, you say that in Sindh, all the road signs and railway stations names are in Sindhi and people face difficulty to reach their destination.
Dishonesty is when without knowing Sindh's culture and history properly, you claim that Sindh belongs to India culturally.
Dishonesty is when without knowing the problems of average Sindhi people and their knowledge of history, you proceed to call them haters of certain person they might not know.
First, Sindhi intellectuals were brought into discussion unnecessarily by OP in this thread. Then you brought Sindhi leaders glamorising Raja Dahir. Now you are questioning average Sindhi's knowledge about Hajjaj's kartoot. Mere Bhai! Considering your assumption for knowledge of an average Sindhi, he/she might not know who was Raja Dahir. In fact its not average Sindhi's basic life and death problem to decide who is their hero, and you are judging them for hating Hajjaj. lols. carry on.
ok maybe you guys tell your sindhi fellows your version of history as you say hajjaj looted sindh. apny version ki history sikhao education na dena.
let me tell you once and for all what the dishonesty is?
Dishonesty is when you sitting in Punjab give strong statements like tandoor walas in Karachi serve roti first to Muahjirs and then non-Muhajirs.
Dishonesty is when without visiting Sindh, you say that in Sindh, all the road signs and railway stations names are in Sindhi and people face difficulty to reach their destination.
Dishonesty is when without knowing Sindh's culture and history properly, you claim that Sindh belongs to India culturally.
Dishonesty is when without knowing the problems of average Sindhi people and their knowledge of history, you proceed to call them haters of certain person they might not know.
I live in Pakistan. Karachi or sindh is not in Africa.
Please buy a good telescope to see clear picture of Sindh from Punjab.
people here openly claim that raja dahir is their hero. again i have no problem if someone considers raja dahir a hero. but i am talking about roots of problems with united pakistan.
Sorry to know that you and your Pakistan are so fragile that they feel insecure when people of Sindh want to analyse the reasons behind an attack made 1400 years ago and come with an alternate version than the one taught to you in schools (which is supported by historians BTW). Very sorry for this fragile status.
people here openly claim that raja dahir is their hero. again i have no problem if someone considers raja dahir a hero. but i am talking about roots of problems with united pakistan.
i can understand how correct your version of history is as you say hajjaj looted sindh.
my "hero" is your "enemy" and you think its ordinary thing.
self contradictory statements. Make your mind before generalizing an ethnicity and making tall statements like 'who belongs to whom'. It will definitely help you all across.
people here openly claim that raja dahir is their hero. again i have no problem if someone considers raja dahir a hero. but i am talking about roots of problems with united pakistan.
i can understand how correct your version of history is as you say hajjaj looted sindh.
my "hero" is your "enemy" and you think its ordinary thing.
self contradictory statements. Make your mind before generalizing an ethnicity and making tall statements like 'who belongs to whom'. It will definitely help you all across.
