It's good you are no longer using the 'muslim' card, and accepting that the '2 nation' theory was shallow. That culture, history plays a major part in how people percieve themselves.
How then would you justify the holding of 'azad kashmir' & 'northern territories' by pakistan??
Azad Kashmir=Indepedent Kashmir. Look it up please. As mentioned before, they have their own Govt, they vote, they choose their leaders.
- Does that not bother you as a 'Kashmiri', that part of Kashmiris are illegally occupied by Pakistan (the only basis being that they are muslim)..
**Although i'm not from Kashmir, but i will tell you this much The part of Kashmir that is with Pakistan is not illegally held. It's a free independent state that happens to be within the borders of Pakistan.
The part of Kashmir that is within Indian controlled is termed as "Disputed Territory". Look up UN Resolution.**
- Or is your view that "Aj liya hai thora sa Kashmir, phir lenga hum sara Kashmir'.
Again, Pakistanis favor a free and indepedent Kashmir. Does not have to be a part of Pakistan, if it does not want to be. It certainly does not want to be a part of India unless shown otherwise through independent polls or opinion surveys. It is still considered "Disputed Territory" by the way.
- Independence is being yearned by Baloch people - would you support them in their quest for independence - afterall culturally they are different than Punjabis? What about the Sindhi's.
Non-Issue. Balochistan is a province and integral part of Pakistan, has always been that way from the time of Pakistan's formation. Kashmir is not an integral part of India (yet), unless free referendum is called for and the mandate indicates the Kashmiris' will to remain with India. Otherwise it is still Disputed Territory. Balochistan is not disputed territory, it's a part of Pakistan.
- You have previously mentioned that the Hindu pundits' are purposely being kept as refugees - to gain sympathy by the Indian government. Is that why there were millions of Afgans kept in Pakistan - to gain sympathy. Here you failed your Kashmiri brethern.
Afghans were given shelter and taken in with open arms as they fled their home nation during the times of Soviet War. Now they're being sent back.
- By starting this thread of illegally detained people - you have tried to imply that this has resulted in fueling this movement. Nowhere have you strongly condemned the Jihadi's messing up and hijacking the kashmiri movement.
Hijacking the Kashmiri movement? If it hadn't been hijacked, Kashmir would be free then? Really? :)
- The ethnic cleansing, talibanising and making this a muslim movement has isolated the Kashmiri hindus, who now demand Punam Kashmir for themselves. You Kashmiri muslim have watched from the sidelines while these Jihadi barbarians destroyed the social fabric of Kashmir - and yet said nothing?? Why.
**I'll let Janab answer that. But i doubt this holds any truth because India has its Army deployed there and easily outnumber whatever little number of freedom fighters operate within Kashmir for their continued struggle.
And yes we all condemn the killing of innocent, no matter who they are, no matter what their nationality or religion. Do you condemn the killing of innocent civilians (Kashmiris included) at the hands of Indian Forces? ** 10. Just as the new generation has changed over time from pro Pakistan to pro independence - the final stage will come when they will be pro-India. Time is the best healer. (Think of USA and their civil war & what they are today - United & strong)
And until then it will remain a "Disputed Territory". Unless India can take really good care of the Kashmiris and they willingly want to become a part of India, till then the struggle continues.
Thank you for repetitive speech Malhot. Could you please address the questions put forth earlier. Kashmiris feel they are harrassed and Jailed on false charges. That is the issue here. Lets stay focused everybody.
NOTE (to everyone): Less rhetoric and more substance would be good. Thank you.