16,000 Kashmiris Languishing in Indian Jails on Dubious Charges

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@janab-e-ali

Wow...can't even accept your mistake when the evidence is put right in front of you.

Even the numbers u gave dont add up to 20. I hope I added correctly.:)

@janab-e-ali

There are a grand total of 5 million Kashmirs in all of Kashmir...in what alternate reality do you live where "a few million" want to stay in India? Never mind the fact that 80-90% choose independence in every survey...never mind the fact that a pro-independence protest was able to draw 25% of the entire population...you people will still make laughable claims about what we want.

I am sorry, I did not know u were only talking about the valley. Ok even there I would assume that a more than few thousand muslims still prefer joining India ( significantly more than the number of Kashmiri hindus u talk about). The point is that the driving force behind Kashmirs independence stems from religious point of view than any ethnic issue. If not then the hindu population of Kashmir would have supported ur cause. Ur links in the previous post of urs do say how the Kashmiri pandits are taking to the streets against a complete autonomy resolution passed by the Farooq govt.

@janab-e-ali

It's clear you know nothing about Kashmiri culture.

I dont and I dont pretend to know either. But I know very well my culture and ethnicity and how it is different from other part of India.

@janab-e-ali

Like I said...foreign occupation is foreign occupation.

Again its ur personal view.

@janab-e-ali

And the subsequent decades of political and social repression didn't do much to help India's image in Kashmir either.

Agreed to some extent. India could have handled it better. I had already said that before.

@janab-e-ali

You can try and undermine our identity all you want...the fact remains that India has always been, and will continue to be seen as a foreign state in Kashmir.

I am not. what I am asking you is how u r different from the different people co-existing in India and if they can do that then why not ur people.

@janab-e-ali

Yet another issue that Indians seem incapable of understanding.

I'm assuming by that ridiculous statement, you mean that India would have let the Dogra maharajas continue lording over the Kashmiri people.

Ur assumption is ridiculous then. U could have left dogra to rule or sheikh abdullah to rule. That was ur choice. Its was the choice of the people of Bhutan weather they wanted the king to rule or not.

@janab-e-ali

Let's just ignore the fact that, in all likelihood, India would have eventually "operation polo-ed" J&K even if the Pathans hadn't invaded. For the last time...Kashmir was by no stretch of the imagination "independent" during Dogra raj. Only an Indian would think that oppressive, foreign, autocratic rule somehow constitutes "independence." The Kashmir movement began as an effort to expel the Dogras from Kashmir...and lives on today to expel their equally oppressive successors.

Again wrong assumptions. This has nothing to do with Dogra raj. U could have thrown out the dogra for all I know. U wouldnt have even time to throw out the Dogra because u would have been under the Pathans by then if India did not intervene. May be another Afghanistan in the making.