150,000 Iraqis killed by Insurgents

The Insurgent terrorists have killed over 150,000 Iraqis since March 2003. Their campaign against the US forces parallels the Khymer Rouge’s bloodbath agaisnt their own population in Cambodia in the 1970’s

Truly Barbaric and yet not a peep is heard from the arab world as they are continually obsessed with Israel-Palestine

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061109/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq

By QAIS AL-BASHIR, Associated Press Writer 7 minutes ago

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Nearly simultaneous car bombs struck two markets in predominantly Shiite areas of Baghdad on Thursday, killing at least 16 people, and the Iraqi government offered its first overall casualty estimate for the war.

Iraq’s Health Minister Ali al-Shemari said about 150,000 Iraqis have been killed by insurgents since the March 2003 U.S.-led invasion.

For every person killed about three have been wounded in violence since the war started in March 2003, al-Shemari told reporters during a visit to Vienna. He did not explain how he arrived at the figure, which is three times most other estimates.

The health minister, a senior Shiite official linked to radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, also said the United States should hand Iraqis full control of its army and police force. Doing so, he said, would allow the Iraqi government to bring the violence under control within six months.

“The army of America didn’t do its job … they tie the hands of my government,” al-Shemari said.

“They should hand us the power, we are a sovereign country,” he said, adding that as a first step, U.S. soldiers should leave Iraq’s cities.

Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, meanwhile, told the British Broadcasting Corp. that
Saddam Hussein could be executed before the end of the year if an appeals panel upholds his death sentence.

Prosecutors have said Iraq’s appeals court is expected to rule by the middle of January on Saddam’s guilty verdict and death sentence for the killings of more than 140 Shiite Muslims after an assassination attempt against him in the town of Dujail in 1982.

If the ruling is upheld, Iraqi officials have told The Associated Press, Iraq’s three-man presidential council would allow Saddam’s hanging. The execution must be carried out within 30 days of the appeals court’s decision.

“The way I understand the law that we passed when we were in the National Assembly that the execution of the sentence should happen within a month, one month,” al-Maliki said. “I expect it to happen before the end of this year.”

At least 45 Iraqis were killed or found dead across the country on Thursday as violence showed no sign of ebbing.

In northern Baghdad’s Qahira district, a car bomb blew up outside shops as noontime shoppers were gathering, said police Lt. Ali Muhsin. He said seven people were killed, 27 were wounded and seven cars were destroyed.

Around the same time, a suicide bomber plowed his explosives-rigged vehicle into crowds gathered in a commercial complex for spare parts, killing at least nine people and wounding 27 in Baghdad’s downtown Karradah district, police Col. Abbas Mohammed Salman said.

Iraqis welcomed Wednesday’s announcement of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld’s resignation as many blamed him for policy failures and scandals that have contributed to the daily sectarian carnage that continues to wrack their nation, more than three years after the U.S. invasion.

“Rumsfeld’s resignation shows the scale of the mess the U.S. has made in Iraq,” 44-year-old Oil Ministry worker Ibrahim Ali said. “The efforts by American politicians to hide their failure are no longer working.”

Hard-line Sunni politician Hamid al-Mutlaq said Rumsfeld’s departure was evidence of the downfall of those who engineered the invasion and what he called their “evil project” in Iraq.

Iraq’s Shiite-dominated government has yet to comment on Rumsfeld’s resignation, which followed a Democratic congressional triumph in midterm elections that was due in large part to U.S. voter dissatisfaction with the war in Iraq.

With a special U.S. committee looking into new policy options for Iraq, many in Baghdad said they expect changes under Rumsfeld’s expected replacement, former
CIA director Robert Gates.

Democrats said they will use their new clout to force a change in Iraq policy and demand that
President Bush start bringing troops home, though they are divided over what exactly to propose.

British Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett warned against a precipitous withdrawal by the U.S.-led coalition.

She said recommendations from an independent U.S. commission led by former Secretary of State James A. Baker III would be key to determining America and Britain’s next moves.

“We are at a critical junction in which the fate of that country hangs in the balance. There is a very real risk of even greater instability and bloodshed than we’ve already seen,” she said in London.

The man who runs Baghdad’s main morgue said Thursday that it received approximately 1,600 bodies in October. Dr. Abdul-Razzaq al-Obaidi said that figure did not include victims of sectarian violence who are taken to Baghdad’s many hospitals and whose deaths are not officially added to the death totals.

Iraqi security forces continue to be targeted by snipers, car bombs and kidnappers, with 39 policemen killed and 170 wounded from Nov. 3 to Nov. 9, Brig. Abdel-Karim Khalaf told reporters.

The U.S. military also released details late Wednesday of two previously unreported operations conducted over recent days, including a 90-minute firefight in northern Baghdad on Sunday in which 38 suspected Iraqi insurgents were killed and nine wounded.

In a separate report, the military said heavily armed insurgents ambushed a joint Iraqi-U.S. patrol on Tuesday near the northern town of Dugmat.

U.S. forces responded with ground troops and airstrikes, killing eight fighters, it said. One U.S. soldier was killed and three wounded in the action, it said, casualties already reported and included in the monthly tally.

In other violence reported by police:

_Assailants stormed a primary school as classes were starting in Muqdadiyah, north of Baghdad, killing a policeman, a guard and a student.

_A bomb hidden in a sack exploded near a crowd of street vendors in central Baghdad’s Tayarn square, killing three people and wounding 19.

_A roadside bomb struck an Iraqi police patrol near a market in Tal Afar, 260 miles northwest of Baghdad, killing one policeman and two civilians.

_A police colonel and his driver were shot to death along a highway in eastern Baghdad.

_Gunmen in a speeding car gunned down a reputed former member of Saddam’s Fedayeen paramilitary in Amarah, 200 miles southeast of Baghdad

_Two people were killed in a mortar attack on their car on Palestine street in eastern Baghdad.

_Gunmen killed an Iraqi army captain and his wife in the northern city of Mosul.

_A car bomb struck an Iraqi military convoy in northwestern Baghdad, killing two Iraqi soldiers killed and wounding four civilians.

The bodies of 11 apparent victims of roving sectarian death squads also were found dumped in Baghdad.

Such squads are believed to have strong links to Shiite militias sponsored by political parties whose support is crucial for the survival of al-Maliki’s shaky government.

Al-Maliki rebuffed pressure from U.S. officials dispatched over recent days in a bid to pressure al-Maliki to quickly disband Shiite militia groups and death squads, a top aide to the prime minister said.

Al-Maliki told National Intelligence Director John Negroponte there was no way that could happen this year, but indicated that was on the agenda for 2007, the aide told The Associated Press, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the issue.

Sunni lawmaker Salim Abdullah warned that his Sunni bloc, the Iraqi Accordance Front, would withdraw from the political process if the militias aren’t dissolved.

“We are under political pressure, and if these demands are not met we will abandon politics,” Abdullah said. “And this will leave us with only one alternative, which is carrying arms, and then it will be civil war.”

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Arab world may be silent because its "sunnis" versus Shias (who would be considered pro-Iran which then in-turn would be considered anti-Arab).... definitely not an excuse but is along the same lines of "what suits their needs/wishes" as many other nations do.

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But Arabs do scream about US killings of Iraqis, whether they be sunni or shia, so it isn't because they see shias as anti-Arab. Besides, Arabs aren't the only Muslims silent about this. Seems to be because it is Muslim killing Muslim - which historically brings about nothing except silence.

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True, same can be said for Russia murdering 250,000 Chechens in Europe and EU being obsessed with Darfur, etc....

But again, this is happening in front of the world where as Chechenya is a forgotten story and yet nothing is being done about it.

No initiative by the Arab World to help out Iraq.

I think the Arab world is content with as long as Arabs kill Arabs

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I think we should say US is responsible for it all. If it wasn't for States all this would not have happened. So all these deaths are the responsibility of the American. Why do I say that, well every time IDF carries out its indiscriminate bombings we are reminded in this forum that it is not Israel who is responsible but Hamas and Hezbollah because they cerated the conditions which forced the peace loving Israelis to retaliate. In similar fashion it is Americans who created this mess so they are responsible, don't blame the Iraqis, it is the Americans.

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So who was responsbile and where were the Arabs when Saddam was killing Iraqis by the hundreds of thousands? What about the hundreds of thousands he displaced, tortured and imprisoned? Is the US also responsible for the inherent hatred between sunnis and shias?

I don't think this thread says "blame Iraqis" it says "Arabs sit on their butt while Muslims kill Muslims".

The mess was there way before US invaded, but it was mostly shia being oppressed and killed, so it was swept under the rug.

I think this shows that unless a Muslim majority country is a mostly homogeneous group, there will be fighting and killing amongst themselvse unless they are ruled by a brutal dictator. I say, let Iraqis find themselves another shia dictator, and get the hell out. Then they can go back to fighting Iran and the Arabs like the good ol' days.

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you mean the western media you get your information from puts it out that way!
one could say arabs have been silent on the whole affair!

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All thanks to the US of A!! That terrorist regime should suffer a horrible death.

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And anyone who didn’t do anything about Saddam should too. :rolleyes:

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Since when did the American terrorists care about what Saddam was doing to it’s public? What he did was peanuts compared to the hell that the terrorist regime in Washinton has done to the Iraqis.

Don’t tell me you’re naive enough to believe that the monkey government decided to invade Iraq to help the “sufferring Iraqi people”…

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^ Since when did you care about the people of Iraq?

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Just curious, when Saddam was doing all that bad work, did US, EU, anyU raise its voice?

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Yah I agree with that.