Strike a nerve did i?
Isn't it past your bedtime over there?
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Shawaiz frankly after all the racist remarks you have made about Americans you should shut it.
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oh really, when, where???
I commend you, for turning this thread about this girl, and what happened to her, to you and your ego 
Please for the sake of humanity, or what is left of it look beyound yourself.
Like me, be selfless, shukria.
LMAO!!
Shawaiz do a search you will find them. Anyway back to me and my racist remarks, anybody else want to jump on the bandwagon? Come picking on two people is no fun.
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LMAO!!
Shawaiz do a search you will find them. Anyway back to me and my racist remarks, anybody else want to jump on the bandwagon? Come picking on two people is no fun.
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You know you cant prove it that I have ever made any racist remarks against americans. At least accept it that you are a liar.
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You know you cant prove it that I have ever made any racist remarks against americans. At least accept it that you are a liar.
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My apologies. Seems i mistook you for someone else. Again my humblest apologies. Two mistakes in a day....whoa my ego is gonna take a beating for this.
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The MMA has not much to do about this. If you look at the gang rape of that girl in lower Punjab. I believe it was an NGO that brought that to the press as well. None of the provincial governments care. Heck known rapists aka feudals are in power in all provincial assemblies.
Secondly the local police is to blame not the MMA in this case. As the MMA is not the police. If your sub-ordinates dont inform you, how can you at the higher level know what is going on?
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If you read the original article the key point made is:
This shameful act was committed in the wake of NWFP Chief Minister’s statement at a public gathering that the MMA would block any move to amend the Hadood Ordinance and Blasphemy Law, and that the "positive effects of the unity of Muslims in Frontier were spilling over to the entire Muslim Ummah" while underlining the need for Muslim unity to defend the Islamic ideology. It was in NWFP that these influential offenders managed to avoid being charged because of the lethargic attitude of the law enforcers.
The guy has a point that while MMA is concerned about blocking moves to amend the Hudood Ordinance crimes like this are going on in MMA constituency. It's all very well to say it's disgusting and terrible but what have MMA done to correct the matter? I for one would like to hear them stop blathering about the ummah and start looking after it for a change.
Agreed. However how does that make the MMA responsible for the actions of 6 psychos?
The last thing that their culture exhibits is such behavior towards women. Its just some people there who do such things to show how they are above the law.
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If you read the original article the key point made is:
This shameful act was committed in the wake of NWFP Chief Minister’s statement at a public gathering that the MMA would block any move to amend the Hadood Ordinance and Blasphemy Law, and that the "positive effects of the unity of Muslims in Frontier were spilling over to the entire Muslim Ummah" while underlining the need for Muslim unity to defend the Islamic ideology. It was in NWFP that these influential offenders managed to avoid being charged because of the lethargic attitude of the law enforcers.
The guy has a point that while MMA is concerned about blocking moves to amend the Hudood Ordinance crimes like this are going on in MMA constituency. It's all very well to say it's disgusting and terrible but what have MMA done to correct the matter? I for one would like to hear them stop blathering about the ummah and start looking after it for a change.
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Right, and these Zia-Hudood laws need to be revised immediately. Did you catch the number of women in jails the other day, as reported by Geo, because of these ordinances. Most of them were the actual victims! The real culprits were roaming free, some of them just paying occasional visits to the 'cachehriz' and getting away with their crimes.
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they worse than the amerikkans who already humiliating muslims in iraq
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hhahahahah...aab pata laga na...
disgusting.. kill those *******s, thats what they deserve!
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hhahahahah...aab pata laga na...
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If you find it funny then you need help
Very disturbing..in Pashtun areas these acts are very rare because of enmity that results. The spread of these acts in Pakistan as a whole is very disturbing, the increase in gang rapes and parading women naked in conservative areas of Punjab and NWFP and honour killings all over the country..as well as the migration of the karo-kari phenomenon from Baluchis to Sindh.. all of these are very bad signs of what is happening to the fabric of Pakistani society.
^ Zakk, tell me, is it me or have these idiotic acts seem to have increased oveer the last lets say 5 years? Got any stats or study?
^ yeah 5abi very good observation, it’s hard to say for sure if they have increased in actual %age of population or if they have increased because of better documentation and gone along with the poulation increase. My guess is that it has increased because it is more common in areas you wouldn’t normally expect.
*HRCP statistics for the first 10 months of 2001 reveal at least 379 cases in the southeastern province of Sindh, the victims of 151 of which were men. This compares to a total of 196 cases reported in 1998. “Sindh is the only place in the country where the lives of men are also taken in honour killings,” Hyat explained, adding that these figures were an inadequate reflection of the true state of affairs.
In the Punjab, there were 227 reported honour killings in 2001. However, there were also some 722 murder cases involving women, and the likelihood of a proportion of them being honour killings was high. One of the most disturbing cases in the Punjab was that of Samia Sarwar, who was murdered for trying to escape an abusive marriage. At the instigation of her own parents, the 36-year-old woman was shot dead in her lawyer’s office in Lahore on 6 April 1999. Although the circumstances of her death are well known, the case was never brought to court. *
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But it doesn’t apply only to violence against women, consider the gun culture wasn’t common outside Baluchistan and NWFP till the 1980’s and now it’s widespread, the result is other ethnic groups have taken up guns with probably worse effects than what would have happened in tribal socities (which at the least had a jirga/panchyat) system which punished people for murder. Similarly you have the sectarian problem which started in Punjab and has now spread to other provinces, in each and every case if the people who commit the crime are allowed to get away, the acts spread to other parts of the country. Unrelated to the above is the steep rise in suicides in Pakistan…another trend which is very disturbing.
Anyone who wants to read up a bit more on the issue do check out pakistans Human Rights Commission, they tend to keep records on on human rights abuses.
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Agreed. However how does that make the MMA responsible for the actions of 6 psychos?
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They are responsible for law and order in their constituency. This was first reported days ago. Why are they silent on it? What have they done to address the matter? What do you think a position of authority is actually about? Shouting down amendments to the Hudood law and organising protest marches?
worst happening day by day ! hate those ppl !!
As much as one would expect me to trash the beautiful “expects” of your culture I would just like to say that this is a Pakistani phenomenon, not just a “Pathan thing”.
How do Pakhtuns feel about his? The same way we felt when we heard about the girl in Punjab. When it comes to honor, whether Pakhtun or not, the Pakhtuns have a very sensitive spot for it.