15 Israeli soldiers killed by Hezbollah today in fierce clashes

Israel is losing this war very, very badly.

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**15 Israeli soldiers killed **

Fifteen Israeli soldiers were killed Wednesday in clashes in southern Lebanon.
Nine infantry reservists died when Hezbollah fighters fired an anti-tank missile at the house where they were stationed in the village of Dbil. In Ayta al-Shaab, four reservists died when Hezbollah combatants fired an anti-tank missile at their tank. One soldier died in a mortar attack in Kliya. Another soldier died in Atayba, the victim of friendly fire. At least 30 soldiers were wounded in Wednesday’s fighting. This was the bloodiest day since the beginning of the conflict for Israeli soldiers.

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With all the latest armaments being flown in 24/7 by their sponsors they still get licked by poorly armed Hezbollah. Imagine if they had same armaments, hezbollah would have been sitting in Tel Aviv. As for 15 killed well if you invade other people's land, you kidnap their citizens and bomb their civilians indiscriminately than you get what you deserve. Hezbollah have given them a bloody nose, I wonder what the IDF's sponsors sitting in London and Washington must be feeling.

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word up.

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The Israeli General heading the Lebanon operation has been sacked, in another sign of the desperate state that Israel’s military operation is now in.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/story/0,,1841093,00.html

**General sacked as Israel plans invasion **

Israel dramatically raised the stakes in the Middle East yesterday, approving an invasion of southern Lebanon involving tens of thousands of troops. At the same time, the army commander in charge of the Lebanese offensive was replaced by another general with a more aggressive reputation - a reflection of Israeli impatience about military progress. The decision by the 12-strong security cabinet left the door open to last-ditch diplomacy at the UN security council, but the diplomats were only given a few days to produce an acceptable compromise. That seemed as far away as ever yesterday, as the US and France clashed openly over a ceasefire plan that is opposed by Lebanon and other Arab states. Last night Tony Blair and George Bush discussed proposing a small, rapidly deployable UN force to help the Lebanese army re-enter the border zone. As heated talks continued in New York, hundreds of Israeli reinforcements were arriving at the northern border and crossing into Lebanon from where heavy fighting could be heard last night. About 30,000 reservists have been called up but that number may rise. According to a reported IDF war plan, the troops would advance as far as the Litani river, about 19 miles inside Lebanon, to “cleanse” an area from where Hizbullah has launched hundreds of rockets. Senior officers reportedly warned Israeli ministers that the operation could last a month and cost several hundred Israeli lives. “If there is a political settlement in the coming days, we will adjust our operations accordingly,” the cabinet said in a statement issued after an intense six-hour session. Nine ministers voted for the IDF plan, while three abstained, including the former Labour leader Shimon Peres.

Yesterday command of the offensive was handed to the deputy chief of staff, Major General Moshe Kaplinsky, over Major General Udi Adam, despite grumbling from Gen Adam, who described the reshuffle as “not legitimate”. Gideon Meir, the chief foreign ministry spokesman, said Israel expected the invasion plan would concentrate the minds of the security council: “There is not unlimited time. Israel is exposed to daily shelling. There is an opportunity for the international community to do something it didn’t do in the past six years.” Last night the Hizbullah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah warned Arab residents of the Israeli city of Haifa to leave to avoid being hurt by rocket attacks. Israel wants the security council to enforce a UN resolution disarming Hizbullah and extending the authority of the Lebanese army to the southern border. Lebanon wants an immediate Israeli withdrawal. As US and French teams in New York tried to draft a fresh UN resolution, President Jacques Chirac blamed the Americans for delaying an agreement.

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These ba$tards will kill 1500 civilians to take revenge for 15 soldiers, that’s how they react.

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According to Yahoo News, 82 Zionist soldiers have died, since the battle began.

Another important thing to note is that, Israel has killed more Lebanese civilians than Hezbollah soldiers, while Hezbollah has killed more Israeli soldiers than Israeli civilians.

Who's the terrorist now?

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say Good Bye to half of lebanon then...now israel will put hitler to shame in its response.not that they are not already ahead to hitler now they'd really show who is the big terrorist.

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sirf 15 say kiya hota hai

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thats it!!? damn these bast@rds slaughtered the whole generation and now will do more as a revenge of their ****ty 15 soldiers!

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over the capture of two live soldiers, they have 82 soldiers killed. is it me or has Israel miscalculated badly?

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Many, many more injured in the bloody fighting yesterday when those 15 soldiers were killed.

http://www.israelnn.com/news.php3?id=109695

**61 Soldiers Remain in Northern Hospitals **

61 IDF soldiers wounded in Wednesday’s fighting in southern Lebanon remain in northern area hospitals. Five of them are reported in serious condition and ten moderate. 15 soldiers were killed in the day’s fighting.

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^ This is what happens when you fight proxy wars on the say so of Washington and london.

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About 80 Israeli soldiers killed. Not a bad going. Hizbullah is not the most efficient organisation in the middle east for nothing. At this rate give it a another week and it will be 100. Hizbullah is doing us proud.

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Excellent point!

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**Hezbollah: Destroyed Over A Dozen Israeli Tanks Overnight **

Hezbollah destroyed seven Israeli tanks just south of Khiam, about 6 kilometers from the Lebanon-Israel border, the group said in a series of statements Thursday. Hezbollah’s Al-Manar television said guerrillas attacked advancing Israeli troops in the Khiam plain, about halfway to Marjayoun, which lies about 8 kilometers from Israel. At least seven tanks were destroyed there, and their crews were either killed or wounded, it said. The other six tanks were destroyed in Marjayoun and Ainata, another village along the Lebanon-Israel border, the statements said. .

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**There are burnt-out tanks, but few Israeli troops to be seen **

It is perhaps the world’s most dangerous road, snaking up and down through boulder-strewn hills and wadis along the Lebanese-Israeli border. By Israel’s account, its forces are moving between seven and 10 kilometres beyond it to take control of a long strip of Lebanese territory before the UN security council votes for a cessation of hostilities. But reporters travelling along the border road last Saturday found few signs of the Israel Defence Forces (IDF), let alone of its successes. People in only one village had seen Israeli troops recently. Elsewhere there was evidence of failures: burnt-out or crippled tanks. Despite the message of success Israel’s generals and politicians are giving their public, the reality on the ground appeared mixed. At the western end of the border road just inland from the headquarters of the UN peacekeeping mission in Lebanon (Unifil) at Naqura, Hizbullah fighters were launching Katysuha rockets from positions within 5km of Israel. Driving east through Aalma ech Chaab and Dhaira, there were clusters of antennae and army huts on the Israeli side of the border but no sign of any incursion. At Marwahin, where the road offers a clear view of the Israeli community of Zarit only 200 metres away, the ground was scarred with tank tracks. A broken towing cable lay on the ground, an apparent sign of a mishap. Nearby were bits of caterpillar track. A kilometre or so further at the junction of the side-road to Debel, a burnt-out Merkava tank was stuck in the trees, its cannon pointing downward. Here the border runs on top of a hill where a heavily fortified Israeli base sits cheek by jowl alongside UN monitoring position 5…#8209;42, a collection of white trailers and a watchtower inside blast walls.

The road to Debel was littered with more broken tracks. Hizbullah’s resistance had clearly made its mark. Beyond the Debel turnoff, reporters could hear a fierce battle for the village of Aita ech Chaab. Israeli shells and tank rounds were pounding it and setting fire to bushes on the hillsides to deny Hizbullah fighters cover. It was the only place on the north-south border where Israel seemed to be trying to advance. Israel has not sought to penetrate the next village, Rmeish, which has a Christian population of several hundred. The last portion of the border before it turns north towards Metulla - centre of the fighting - contains the towns of Bint Jbeil and Aitaroun, which Israeli forces tried to take in the first days and then withdrew after losing nine men. The trip along the border road became possible when Israel allowed a UN convoy to bring food aid to the isolated Christian village of Debel. This was the first access to border villages for 10 days. With one white armoured personnel carrier in front and another at the back, three UN food lorries set off from Naqura. The thump of outgoing Israeli tank and artillery rounds provided a constant accompaniment. Before the convoy set off from UN headquarters, monitors said Israeli forces came in by day but pulled back at night, remaining a few hundred metres inside the border. As a claim to control territory this seemed unconvincing. Israeli troops were still being shot at, the observers said.

The deepest Israeli presence inside Lebanon the convoy encountered was at Jibbain, a Sunni village 3km from the border. Last Sunday Israeli commandos landed near Mansouri on the coast north of Naqoura, killing a Lebanese army intelligence official and wounding seven soldiers. The purpose may have been to squeeze the Hizbullah launch teams between Jibbain and Mansouri. If so, it would confirm that, rather than an occupation of south Lebanon, the Israelis are going for limited gains. The head of Unifil, the UN’s monitoring mission in Lebanon, believes that any attempt to deploy international troops to disarm Hizbullah by force would turn Lebanon into another Iraq. “It is always the same when you have to fight against guerrillas. You will have a kind of Iraq situation,” Major General Alain Pellegrini said last weekend. **The French general, who has commanded the contingent of 2,000 armed monitors from eight countries for two years, said that Israel’s air campaign had failed to destroy all of Hizbullah’s installations. **“On the ground the Israelis are pushing slowly towards the Litani river. They’re clearing the area between the Blue Line [the de-facto border] and the river to destroy all known Hizbullah positions and stockpiles, but not to occupy it,” he said. Israel had not expected the amount of resistance Hizbullah had put up, the general said. He was sceptical of the optimism coming from the UN suggesting that Israel would accept a ceasefire soon. Unifil was set up in 1978 to confirm the withdrawal of Israeli troops who had invaded Lebanon to try to destroy Palestinian guerrillas. Hizbullah did not then exist. The Bush administration and Israel claim Unifil has failed because it has done nothing to prevent Hizbullah from building a network of tunnels and caves in the Lebanese hills and inserting huge caches of weapons. Gen Pellegrini vigorously rejected the accusation. “Unifil is a peace-keeping force. It was set up to monitor respect for an agreement between two parties. As long as the parties respect it, it w orks. When you are in a state of armed confrontation, Unifil cannot work,” he said.

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Hizbullah claims destroying 11 Israel tanks.

Israeli has abandoned its plans to expand the ground offensive, hoping a ceasefire would be agreed soon which would get it out of trouble.

The Israelis are now claiming that Iranians are fighting for Hizbullah, in order to explain their losses.

Israelis are claiming that they would target the Hizbullah leadership and kill them in the future.

Feels to me that the Zionists are feeling the pain now.

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They miscalculated badly.....They still see themselves in 1960's. The Arabs have moved on.

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Costly, costly failure.

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**Israel’s 4-Week Lebanon Offensive Costs Government $1.6 Billion **

Israel’s military offensive against Hezbollah in Lebanon has so far cost the Israeli government ILS7 billion ($1.6 billion), and the government will make spending cuts of ILS2.25 billion to further finance the fighting, Finance Minister Abraham Hirchson said Wednesday night. The cost of the fighting, which began July 12 after Hezbollah militants kidnapped Israeli soldiers on Israel’s border with Lebanon, doesn’t include the pay to the thousands of reserve soldiers who have been called up for duty, Hirchson said. All government ministries, except health, welfare and public security, will lose 6% of their budgets for the rest of 2006, Hirchson said. The money from these ministries’ budgets - about ILS1.2 billion - will be transferred next week to the defense ministry, said Hirchson, who is a member of Prime Minister Ehud Olmert’s Kadima party. The defense ministry will also receive an additional ILS800 million from unmarked general government funds, for a total of ILS2 billion. An additional ILS250 million will be cut from various ministries and put into a special fund, which could also be given to the defense ministry if needed, Hirchson said. Discussions for the 2007 budget have been delayed until September, when the government has a clearer picture of fighting costs and war damages to the economy, he said.

The government plans to continue with its key macro-economic policy - the budget framework will be maintained; the rate of increase in government spending will remain 1%; the deficit will remain at its current level of 3% of gross domestic product and taxes won’t be raised. The Bank of Israel estimated last week that each month of fighting costs Israel 0.7%-0.9% of its annual GDP. Israel has had an economic growth rate of at least 4% for each of the past three years, making the government optimistic that the economy can survive the strain of the war without long-term damage.

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Utter humuliation - no wonder has ceased fighting till the weekend.

**Israel struggles to capture strategic hills **

Israeli forces today struggled to secure strategic hills close to the border town of Metulla, despite weeks of bombardment and days of fighting. Dozens of tanks withdrew from hills close to the Lebanese Christian village of Marjayoun this morning and repeatedly came under anti-tank fire as they approached the border. One tank was set ablaze by a missile within a quarter of a mile of the village. The crew climbed on to another tank and were driven to safety. As more tanks returned, pumping out smoke for cover, several more missiles were fired, narrowly missing their targets and setting light to scrub on the valley floor. A tank crew extinguished the fire in the damaged tank and towed the blackened vehicle to Metulla as Israeli artillery fired shells around it to create dust clouds for cover. Israeli troops succeeded in taking control of one ridge east of Metulla. Scores of soldiers could be seen standing on the ridge next to a quarry, looking at the action in the valley below. On a ridge west of Metulla, Hizbullah fighters fired anti-tank missiles, which resembled red darts, across the valley, exploding in a ball of fire on impact.

Throughout the night the valleys were illuminated and shaken by an endless bombardment. Tracer fire and rockets could be seen in the darkness. There were reports of deaths and casualties in the fighting around Metulla but the Israeli army refused to comment until relatives had been informed. The problems involved in taking control of the hills close to Metulla are the same all along the border. Although 10,000 troops and hundreds of tanks are deployed, Hizbullah fighters can easily evade them and attack when convenient. “It is very difficult for a hundred tanks to find small teams of three or four men running over the hillside,” said one soldier in Metulla. According to reports, Israel is trying to remedy its failure to flush out Hizbullah fighters with air strikes and tanks by sending infantry into the villages on foot. Reuters quoted witnesses who saw Israeli troops moving on foot through Marjayoun about five miles inside Lebanon and neighbouring villages. “I can see two tanks burning some 500 metres from Marjayoun,” one resident told the news agency by telephone. A third tank arrived later and removed several casualties, he said, adding that Hizbullah fighters were raining rocket and mortar fire on the Israeli force between Marjayoun and Khiam.