Muslims believe that there have been 124,000 prophets sent to mankind from Allah (SWT)…Every nation on earth has been given a prophet as an example and guidance…That means the Romans, the Hittites, Sumerians, Hebrews, Greeks…Every nation has had a prophet…So if we look closely, how can we explain the unexplainable similarity between the mythologies of the Greeks, the Romans and the Norse? Just the names of the gods have been altered, otherwise almost everything is the same? Couldn’t it then mean that they were given some teachings of the exact same nature which they transformed into that of their liking? Giving a god a son and wives and superhuman servants to carry out his commands…Look at Christianity for example…The Roman Catholic Church last year banished the idea of hell from their beliefs…They said it did not comply with the teachings of Christ…Maybe the status of Jesus (AS) was raised to a son in the same way? Just some thoughts…
Re: 124,000 prophets...
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Every nation on earth has been given a prophet as an example and guidance...That means the Romans, the Hittites, Sumerians, Hebrews, Greeks...Every nation has had a prophet...
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Easy to say something. Can you name the "prophets" given to the Romans, Greek and British, Bushmen, Japanese?
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So if we look closely, how can we explain the unexplainable similarity between the mythologies of the Greeks, the Romans and the Norse?
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Maybe this so-called "prophets" taught them wrong?
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The Roman Catholic Church last year banished the idea of hell from their beliefs/QUOTE
Untruth. Please state source.
Just some thoughts.... :)
I will look for the source...
So if we look closely, how can we explain the unexplainable similarity between the mythologies of the Greeks, the Romans and the Norse? Just the names of the gods have been altered, otherwise almost everything is the same? <<
man has always been worshipping the feared, i.e. the unknown. at the time when man hadnt yet learnt to tame nature to a reasonable extend, worship was concentrated around the elements. this is reflected in the gods in ancient greek, egyptian, norse, vedic hinduism. fire too was a big deal, hence commonly found divine status in ancient religions.
the 124000 count comes from traditions.. one needs to be careful when accepting them as hard facts. It is believed by Muslims however that all nations were sent messengers.
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since u accept only Quranic evidence, there is a verse which states that every nation has been sent a messenger....
if u wud sit and calculate u wud (or shud) find a number close to it....
plus the number doesnt come from traditions, it comes from HADITH....
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Easy to say something. Can you name the "prophets" given to the Romans, Greek and British, Bushmen, Japanese?
Maybe this so-called "prophets" taught them wrong?
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The Roman Catholic Church last year banished the idea of hell from their beliefs
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Untruth. Please state source.
Just some thoughts.... :) [/QUOTE]
Not all prophets have been named...
They were taught right but the people turned wrong...Hence the need for another prophet and so on and so on to our Holy Prophet (SAW)...
One source below...Will provide more on request...:)
The Traditional Concept of HELL ...is a Myth
Compiled by
Anthony V. Gaudiano
The traditional concept of 'Hell' has sinners tortured with fire for eternity. They are assumed to feel searing pain, yet their flesh is not consumed.
Few question why sinners are not burnt to ashes in a fiery Hell, or why eternal life, which is promised only to the faithful, is seemingly given to sinners ... just to be tortured? A study of the scriptures can resolve these and other contradictions.
Surprisingly, fire is NOT mentioned in 78% of the verses where the word Hell appears in the King James Version (KJV) bible. In the few remaining verses where fire and sinners are associated, it is clearly NOT torture, but ANNIHILATION, which results.
The traditional concept of Hell does NOT come from the inspired Hebrew or Greek manuscripts. It is a pagan myth adopted as Christian doctrine in the third century by church fathers. Yet, then as now, innocent people are taught the traditional concept of Hell by trusted authority figures. That trust deters questions, so for hundreds of years the myth has perpetuated. The KJV and other translations have also perpetuated the myth by less than the most accurate translation of the word Hell. But this is changing as seen in Table A.
This article is a compilation of out-of-print publications from Ambassador College and other sources which are identified herein. Bold fonts, all capital letters, etc., are author's emphasis.
Anomalies in the words translated as Hell
The word Hell occurs in a total of fifty-three verses in the KJV; Thirty-one times in the Old Testament, and twenty-two times in the New. This article will show that:
FOUR separate words from Hebrew and Greek were translated into the ONE English word Hell. In English Hell refers to a conceal place, a hole in the ground as for storing potatoes, etc., covered with soil during winter.
TWO words, one Hebrew and one Greek, mean the SAME THING. Fire is NOT associated with FORTY-TWO occurrences of these words.
One Greek word for Hell occurs just once. Fire is NOT associated with the occurrence, neither are HUMANS.
One Greek word is used ELEVEN times; FIRE is associated with EVERY occurrence.
Anyone can find the definition of the four Hebrew and Greek words translated, and the context in which they are used. Only two common study aids are required. Most people already have them. Other publications referenced herein can be easily obtained through a public library.
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One source below...Will provide more on request...:)
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That source has nothing to do with the catholic church, simply a view of someone. The Vatican has issued no such statement on the abolishment of the fact of hell.
Investigate before you post.
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...They said it did not comply with the teachings of Christ...
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Some food for your "thought".
Matthew 13:42
They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Matthew 10:28
Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
Matthew 5:29
If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.
Matthew 23:15
"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are.
Luke 12:5
But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after the killing of the body, has power to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him.
Luke 16:23
In hell, 16:23 Greek Hades] where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side.
James 3:6
The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole person, sets the whole course of his life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell.
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the 124000 count comes from traditions.. one needs to be careful when accepting them as hard facts. It is believed by Muslims however that all nations were sent messengers.
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I agree...It comes from a riwayyat...An incidence which is handed down...Although oft quoted, I could not uncover a source...At this point...It should be considered dhaeef (weak)...But this is fact that all nations were sent Messengers...
Allah (SWT) knows best...