100,000 civillians burned to death by US bombers in Japan

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Ak, is everything black and white for you? It's pointless to discuss anything with you because you display such a simple outlook on things that any discussion would be lost on you. The fact is that you don't really want to discuss anything anyways as it's much easier for you just to say the U.S. is evil. People aren't dumb ak, the story is in the details and quite frankly your posts are predictable and boring.

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utd if you dont want to discuss i dont shed no tears one little bit you welcome not to respond.

The Yanks killed 100,000 people by burning them alive if thats black and white so be its a fact it did happen if you dont like it then go hide under your bed cover if you dont like the truth !

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Awwww, Ak47

As a real Yankee from New England, I resent that all the blame is put on a very small part of the US. But to be expected, I guess - seems to be a habit of yours of posting half a story, out of ignorance, or “The world according to AK”.

I know when the Japanese bombed us, everyone (us included, I know) should have rolled over and played dead, after all, in AK’s world everyone is allowed to retailiate under attack except America. It’s funny though, have you noticed that Americans don’t tend to do that when attacked in the real world. Yeah, yeah, I know :rolleyes: “that’s what we say”. Anyway, all fair in love and war, right?

Ah well, revisionist history, got to love it.

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History is written by victors. Obviously, the US whitewashed its crimes by portraying the Japanese as cruel murderers. If Japan would have won, they would have come up with figures of the chinese killed when the British, French and the Americans had divided China among themselves. And for people thinking that US developed Japan, Japan was a regional power since the early 1900's and so was Germany, Germany was the most industrialized nation of Europe and had the largest economy of any country in Europe. That is why they bounced back so fast from the ruins.

MP, Japan attacked the US navy because they had put an oil embargo around Japan, with their Navy disallowing any oil tanker to reach Japan. The only thing Japan could do was attack the US navy after all negotiations failed. US was itching to get into the war but they needed some provocation to jump in.

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Correct, You can say that again and soloution to US participation = pearl harbour bombing their own crusty ships and blaming the japs good trick!

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The US never bombed their own ships, but they knew they would be attacked by the Japanese somewhere, eventually. They had left Japan with only two options, face economic ruin or attack the US.

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Japan, by overextending itself, faced economic ruin by it's own maneuvering, however it's last ditch effort was bombing us. They had more options than those two, one being to pull back, but bombing us was the one they chose. Like the equally ruinous choice Hitler made invading Russia, it didn't work like they thought it would. Who's fault is that?

I certainly harbor no guilt for that era. And as for the winner writing history, that has been done since the beginning of time, so we certainly didn't invent that one.

Rather than hashing out a war that ended 60+/- years ago, try arguing this current one. That war was more straightforward, this one you have a lot more ammo considering all the bending and twisting this administration did to get it going.

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If Japan, was facing economic ruin, it would never been able to build its huge fleet nor able to sustain 3 years of taxing warfare with the US. So they attacked US as a last ditch effort to commit suicide as they were on the verge of losing anyway?? If not for the US war against Japan, the British were history in South East Asia and South Asia, they were anyway as England had gone broke after Hitler broke its back.

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Surya, Japan overextended itself by placing the war machine above the people. The money came from somewhere and it was from it's people's mouths. They also overextended itself by attacking a country that, logistically, it couldn't win against. Not only because we are big (a factor), or because we have more people (another factor), but because they were on one side of the world and we were on another (remember, this was another era, flight was not what it is today). They shot their own foot off. 3 years of taxing warfare was not fought on our shores, it was on lands they had claimed already, they had little choice then.

I think, coming from a tiny nation of strong people, they made the mistake of geography, like a lot of leaders did (one being the one I mentioned, another Napoleon). Having confidence extending throughout Asia, it thought it could extend further.

And I agree with what you said about England and add France into that picture and you have one of the reasons that there is so much resentment (with grudging allegiance) from those countries.

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Surely, after they initiated the war with the US, they had overextended themselves, but before that they were going really strong in China and South East Asia. More people does not matter as China had buckled to them and small European countries were ruling huge countries everywhere, its a matter of having superior machinery and the country's ideology at that time. But they would have never attacked US, if not for the oil embargo, which would have meant a complete ruin of all industries in Japan.

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You can belive the story of hollywood if you like, US bombed its own ships and blamed it on Japan why on earth would japan trigger the US to get involved in the War it makes no logical sense, US was itching to get into world war II and some how conveniently they got their excuse talk about coincident!

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hahahahaha