If he was the PM, then I'd be worried, but then again, he is the PM, sort of.
That's the issue. Gilani owes his support from the PPP to nothing but his blessing from Zardari, who the party is loyal to. That makes Zardari essentially control the PPP.
In a Zardari presidency with Gilani as PM.... we will effectively be seeing the merger of the Presidency with the prime minister's office.
Indeed, I don't really see Zardari relinquishing any presidential powers, meaning 582b would remain in effect. The more power for him, the better, he will feel.
Though if I remove myself to a neutral perspective, I must concede that if he does become president, it will represent one of the most incredible political comebacks of all time. From prison cell to leading a nuclear power.... the first man to ever do that.
what is even worst than zardari cornering all power is that it is done even while tanking a capable and probably the only person with leadership qualities in Pakistan - namely Musharraf!
granted Musharraf was responsible for his own downfall by mishandling the iftikhar and militant clerics issues but still.....what is it in Pakitsan's dna that turns even capable guys such as him into such idiocy!
All said and done can anyone stomach chosing zardari over musharraf?
If we as a nation can't prosecute a guy who planted a shoe-bomb on a wealthy guy to extort money out of him, then isn't it payback by nature for the lack of judicial system?
that is my point - Pakistan is going from bad to worst! right now zardari and to a smaller extent are holding Pakistan to ransom. nobody can talk or act without their permission (well, nobody except army).
these two were the most hated and damaging personalities until recently and now they command everything. The crooks have not only escaped punishment for looting billions but also in position of top most power.
what choice is there now but for army to conduct another takeover? can ANYBODY disagree if Kiyani takes over now?
what choice is there now but for army to conduct another takeover? can ANYBODY disagree if Kiyani takes over now?
Current situation is result of army take-over. It will be one-man show again, he will be the king like Musharraf was. He will decide Pakistan's fate like Musharraf made deals after deals and issued NRO to cling to the kursi which resulted in Zardari rising to this level. Do you want to see other crooks rising to this level? If yes then ask Kayani to take over tomorrow.
They do enjoy this. These people ACTUALLY feel that Nawaz sharif and Bhuttos/Zardaris are the salvation army, the saviors of Democracy. Truly a sad sad day. The terrorists are emboldened with Musharraf gone. Two unelected douchebags are calling the shots in a "democratic" country. What more do you want?
^ that Nawas Sharief went to Clinton and sold out Pakistan means nothing to you?
And Musharraf didn't? :)
that Zardari has usurped the Bhtto mandate is ok with you?
That concern has been discussed already, I'm sure larger PPP supporters are going to turn against him sooner than later.
that both these have amassed billions of public money abroad is also ok?
and the fact that they were granted NRO has nothing to do these days?
If Zardari does become a President then supporters of Musharraf should actually be happy as it will only accelerate/create chances of another military take over.
lets not be so short-sighted. People kicked out mushraff's A$$. Zardari is worst than musharaff.
Inshallah ppl will kich him out too.
And very soon.
These A$$whipe politicians need to know that pakistan belong to ppl of pakistan.
even though it seems to be obvious that 'people of pakistan' kicked out musharraf, that is far from the truth. Musharrafs resignation was the result of pure politics. Nawaz Sharif wanted to exact revenge on him, which is why he teamed up with the lawyers to make a lot of noise. Lets be frank. All we know of the anti musharraf sentiment is based on what we saw in the form of a handful idiot lawyers and politicians marching across the country.....and they got over-exposure because the media was playing politics itself. Channels like Geo and Aaj and ARY were going overboard in showing something as being 10 times as intense as it really was. If one person would die, these channels would show his gunshot wounds, his limp body, mangled head and all, lying on a charpai, all to incite sentiments across the country. And now even if we have 100 people dying in a blast, the news fades away after a few hours.
anti musharraf sentiment was purely politically personal, nothing else. It did not in any way represent a large cross section of the pakistani public. musharraf made a lot of mistakes, but lets be honest...the current thugs and criminals that have come to be incharge of the country will use musharrafs name to disguise their failures and corruption for the years to come.
^ i suggest you have a look at 18 feb results and see what happened to PML(Q), which musharraf said was his party. It got routed at the ballot, which incidentally was the verdict of the people against the dictator.
I am not in favour of Musharraf either...a few of his policies i didnt like...especially ones where he pardoned the aforementioned criminals....but he was better than these two.
How would any other PM or President have acted if it wasnt Musharraf? would he/she have sat quietly with bombings in Islamabad? or taleban coming over the border? or America twisting our arm to extradite people (People vanishing?) ? Would these crooks have not made people vanish also?
I think anyone in the same position would have probably made the same decisions!!
Your joking when you say he cant be worst then the previous guy...right?
In any case...taking into account everyone's disdain for the former president im surprised people havent taken the to the streets regarding the nomination of this new president!!!!
Well, I'd support even kala choor (maybe zardari is kala choor???) than support any military dictator no matter how good he is. Having said that, why are we depending on individuals? And, if Zardari is elected legally & constitutionally who are we to argue against it?
As for Mushrraf, I don't care how good he was (I think he gets credit for lots of things which he had nothing to do with). He was illegitimate self-appointed dictator, who was doing all he could to hang on to kursi. In 8 years he destroyed every institution in the country, and then at the end he gifted us NRO, Zardari and Shareifs.
I agree that Musharraf did alot for his Chair. but name me one person in our country who doesnt. If power corrupts...then what does absolute power do? If Musharraf had power is not Zardari aiming for absolute power? with the PM in his hand and himself as President........say no more!
How was Zardari elected? not by you or me. Nor the people.
I wouldnt accept a dictator either. In Mushrraf case i see it as an exception. because id rather have a dictator ( who did a bit of good work, even you admit to it Mr Khan) as compared to tried and tested NS and PPP. Raiwind and Surrey palace reminds me how these people are corrupt and always will be!