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^^^ As I am not fan of PPP anyway, I actually want PPP to make this death wish, Zaradri will not attract votes at all.
Why you back off when we discuss? Zardari is a death wish, why bother for PPP in first place anyway? Which rational thinking Pakistani will vote for a PPP when he is leading the squad and declaring himself PM? How can both of your arguments suit on each other, when they do contradict themselves.
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U Have any idea who ZAB's family was? I mean he was not some lowly slum sweller who rose to the top by his vision and hard work.
You mean he was another puppet setup by Army and USA like any other leader of our country? I agree...but then he spoke for his nation. I have not seen a single leader doing so after him.
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**Vision of Zardari: **How to overtake Bill gate to become richest person in the world, by hook or crook. In the vocabulary of Zardari, 'hook' means commission on government contracts and 'crook' means outright stealing public treasury.
Saleem Saheb, is Bill Gates less of a crook?! How many cases are being fought by MS around the world? But It amuses me seeing people comparing him with Gates.
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If zardari agrees to merge his swiss treasury and Paki treasury, I think he should be made PM.
Ps: it's a good deal as long as he doesn't. Ask himself for 10pct outta habit
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Saleem Saheb, is Bill Gates less of a crook?! How many cases are being fought by MS around the world? But It amuses me seeing people comparing him with Gates.
Are you kidding?
There are no cases against Bill Gates personally. There were anti-competition practices cases against Msft in which he was a party but most of those have been settled!
Individually speaking he madd his money by bringing computing to the common man, by creating a large company that employs thousands and has made money for tens of thousands of investorsm
Finally what he and his wife donate in a year is probably more than the gdp of most countries. Plus Buffet, when he willed for his fortune to go to charity on expiry, said he was inspired by Gates to do so.
Comparing Gates to Zardari or calling him a crook is nonsense.
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Just a question about the process - how does this work? If PPP got the PM leadership position, they decide who to insert into it AFTER they get the seat???
I thought they've put Amin Fahim or whats his name up for election for the PMship. Then how would Zardari get the official seat?
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I hope PPP miserabely loses the election on zardari's seat and I hope PML-N takes a lead. I can't believe I am siding PML-N but nawaz is still better then zardari.
Ain't that the blues. There are NO GOOD CHOICES!
How about I start a political party and run for elections?
Would you vote for me? I'll be Ms 150%. That's right. You heard me. I'm going to make Zardari look like a wuss.
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^ for all of the above rubbish.. this is the answer.. Zardari had made clear at Benazir’s death that she didnt wanted him to run in elections.. though with eight years of prison without any sentence he is one of teh best politicians in Pakistan..
http://www.dawn.com/2008/02/07/top4.htm
Zardari denies he’s candidate for PM’s job
By Our Correspondent
LARKANA, Feb 6: One needed to contest elections to first become an MNA before seeking the post of prime minister, says Pakistan People’s Party co-chairperson Asif Ali Zardari.
He was talking to a delegation of journalists in Naudero on Wednesday.
“I am not contesting the elections and, therefore, the question of my becoming a candidate for the post of prime minister does not arise,” Mr Zardari said.
He said he had spoken to Babar Awan who had issued a statement in this regard and Mr Awan clarified that he expressed his personal desire. He added that the statement had been ‘misinterpreted’.
Terming PML-Q a party of ‘political orphans’ which did not even have a candidate for the post of prime minister, he said that people like Moeen Qureshi and Shaukat Aziz had come and gone. However, he said, there were “some people” in the PML-Q with whom “we could talk on the issue”.
Replying to a question, he said Ms Zubaida Jalal was an apolitical figure and was famous for her social work so she should concentrate on it.
He said that the will of Ms Benazir Bhutto had been made public now in view of the tradition of making such documents public only on Chehlum.
Mr Zardari said that he wanted to resolve the problems of the provinces by amending the 1973 Constitution, adding there was no bar on making such amendments. He suggested that political parties should work together to work out a solution after the formation of a national government following the elections.
He, however, clarified that he was not talking about a new constitution.
According to an AP report, a PPP spokeman said the party had not yet decided whether Asif Zardari would be its candidate for prime minister after parliamentary elections.
Farhatullah Babar said it was ‘premature’ to say whether Mr Zardari would be nominated for prime minister when the new parliament convenes.
“That decision will be taken after the elections” on Feb 18, Mr Babar said.
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The rumors are he has paid a large sum of money to Musharraf in return for unfreezing his 1.8 billion dollars bank accounts…and to become PM…I don’t think he has paid this money to make Amin Faheem the PM>>
For an interim period he will find a weak person to do this job…but right after he is elected to parliament from BB’s Larkana seat…he will surely be the candidate for PM job himself…
As far as 8 years in prison are concerned they were not without a reason…and without this deal with Musharraf and NRO he will have to spend many more…meanwhile enjoy the words in which Newsweek has described Zardari…
**A former playboy and polo star, Zardari is considered a mistrusted—and divisive—figure in Pakistan. He is widely blamed for the tangle of corruption that strangled and cut short Bhutto’s terms in office. “The PPP has the potential to be far more than the party of the Bhutto family. It had been putting itself forward as the legitimate reform party,” the administration official said. “There is some concern if the party reverts back to a somewhat monarchial-style system.” Syed Farooq Hasnat, a scholar at Washington’s Middle East Institute, said that Pakistanis “are not ready for Zardari.” **
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^ though with eight years of prison without any sentence he is one of teh best politicians in Pakistan.. .... [/qoute] considering what he has made during this 2 stints of BB pmship, he could have given back the looted money without hanging on to it, 8 years in prison must have been worth for him, as he know whats worth more giving money back or hang on to it and stay few years in prison. He didnt stay in prison for political reason but for criminal charges, atleast swiss and british courts are not ISI pawns.
NRO is the shamefull ordinance passed by the Musharraf, fraudsters should never be forgiven, should be set as examples.
[qoute] “That decision will be taken after the elections” on Feb 18, Mr Babar said.
yea keep the confusion going, as nominating zardari will cut the votes as not many in PPP like him.
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Youa re right. It is already causing issues within the PPP.
PPP in turmoil over Zardari’s PM bid
The Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) is in turmoil over its co-chairman Asif Ali Zardari’s prime ministerial aspirations as this is being seen as impacting on the attempts of party stalwart Makhdoom Amin Fahim to occupy the slot if the PPP is voted to power in the Feb 18 General Election.
Zardari’s remarks, though immediately denied, “gave credibility to the whisper campaign within the PPP focusing on whether Zardari or Amin Fahim should be the party’s nominee for the premiership”, *The News *said on Thursday.
“Two developments - Zardari’s public expression of his intention to vie for the top position and the release of slain Benazir Bhutto’s handwritten will threw up Zardari as the genuine and undisputed leader of the PPP and also tended to set at rest ‘doubts’ about the veracity of the will,” the newspaper added.
Newsweek has quoted Zaradari as saying: “There is no one single personality (in the party), apart from me, who anybody even knows. No one else has a consensus. The fact of the matter is that there’s nobody in the party with my seniority who’s been to prison for 11 years.”
According to The News: “this also grossly discounts Amin Fahim’s prospects and depicts him as a man not enjoying consensus in the PPP for the top slot. But it did open a Pandora’s box that may create a rift in the PPP even before many might have predicted or wished”.
For quite some time, two lobbies have been quietly pushing different names, including that of Zardari, for the prime ministerial slot if the PPP sails through the general election. During private conversations, their leading members left no doubt about their priorities for the top position.
“Anybody to be nominated by the PPP for the office immediately after the parliamentary elections would be a stopgap prime minister to vacate the position for Zardari, who would be elected to the National Assembly in the by-polls for the Larkana seat of Benazir Bhutto,” The News quoted a top source close to the PPP co-chairman as saying.
He added that it was wrong to assert that Amin Fahim was ever selected for the slot, pointing out that while Zardari had stated at his maiden press conference after Bhutto’s assassination that Amin Fahim would be the party’s candidate for the top rank, he had also made it clear that the party’s central executive committee (CEC) would take the final decision on the issue.
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Are you kidding?
There are no cases against Bill Gates personally. There were anti-competition practices cases against Msft in which he was a party but most of those have been settled!
Individually speaking he madd his money by bringing computing to the common man, by creating a large company that employs thousands and has made money for tens of thousands of investorsm
Finally what he and his wife donate in a year is probably more than the gdp of most countries. Plus Buffet, when he willed for his fortune to go to charity on expiry, said he was inspired by Gates to do so.
Comparing Gates to Zardari or calling him a crook is nonsense.
Anti-Competition cases?! All the "piracy" done by MS is no issue any more? Which involves Gates directly (make It a personal matter).
And who cares about how much he donates, we are not here to discuss donation sprees.
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Ain't that the blues. There are NO GOOD CHOICES!
How about I start a political party and run for elections?
Would you vote for me? I'll be Ms 150%. That's right. You heard me. I'm going to make Zardari look like a wuss.
Not even a pigeaon will dare to vote for you.
Tum logon ne Pak politics ko mazaq samja howa hai.
It might be not that transparent, but It's not as worse.
So try It at US of A you might beat Hillary.
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Tum logon ne Pak politics ko mazaq samja howa hai
Just like 'Democracy Seeking' party leaders that come through to lead their parties through a 'WILL', or other undemocratic means.
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Just like 'Democracy Seeking' party leaders that come through to lead their parties through a 'WILL', or** other undemocratic means.**
Such as bribing the dictator to unfreeze 1.8 billion dollars...and buying the PM slot...and getting the NRO issued....it is being rumored that the retired General was paid 500 miilion dollars for above mentioned services...God knows...
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Such as bribing the dictator to unfreeze 1.8 billion dollars...and buying the PM slot...and getting the NRO issued....it is being rumored that the retired General was paid 500 miilion dollars for above mentioned services...God knows...
Alhamdulilallah. However, I am surprised the RUMORS only say 500 million dollars. Are you sure it is not more than that. :)
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Alhamdulilallah. However, I am surprised the RUMORS only say 500 million dollars. Are you sure it is not more than that. :)
Well rumors say that...I am also surprised why he sold himself so cheaply if the rumors are correct..specially NRO alone was worth more than that..
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Just like 'Democracy Seeking' party leaders that come through to lead their parties through a 'WILL', or other undemocratic means.
With the AGREEMENT of all party members I suppose It can be declared democractic, since no one objected. Do you see any Aitzazs, Fahims, Rehmans etc crying?? I dont.
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With the AGREEMENT of all party members I suppose It can be declared democractic, since no one objected. Do you see any Aitzazs, Fahims, Rehmans etc crying?? I dont.
Really....may be I am a party member and want to contest for Chairman slot....but nobody asked to submit nominations...how can you say that all party members agree to his Chairmanship without holding a countrywide election, if the party claims to be a nationwide party...it's a lost case Ali_R...
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Really....may be I am a party member and want to contest for Chairman slot....but nobody asked to submit nominations...how can you say that all party members agree to his Chairmanship without holding a countrywide election, if the party claims to be a nationwide party...it's a lost case Ali_R...
Yazd, with all respect.
Dont you think that If some one had disagreed on the argeed terms. The media wouldnt have had him in the first place to speak out loud? Especially in an age of more than common run propaganda this would have been the best way to bespatter ppp. The way they have done at NS, Zia times. We need to unity only then we can find a solution. Im no fan of Zardari either trust me.