I laughed at any team? No sir! I was simply showing those who were making fun of Zaheer how stupid that was.
As to ranking - world cup is supposed to be a championship. In any championship, the winner is #1 and the runner up is #2. Beyond that all the numbers are good and great for pot bellied statisticians who don't actually play but just sit there crunching numbers.
But I do appreciate your last comment - unlike the others here who made fun of Zaheer, you at least seem to wish him well ...that is the sporting spirit
Regardless of everything one has to agree that Zaheer Khan is a very decent fast bowler who knows his art very well and certainly has got a long way to go.
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I laughed at any team? No sir! I was simply showing those who were making fun of Zaheer how stupid that was.
As to ranking - world cup is supposed to be a championship. In any championship, the winner is #1 and the runner up is #2. Beyond that all the numbers are good and great for pot bellied statisticians who don't actually play but just sit there crunching numbers.
But I do appreciate your last comment - unlike the others here who made fun of Zaheer, you at least seem to wish him well ...that is the sporting spirit
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Yeah appriciate the comments which you find are not against the indian team otherwise sit there and keep crunching the numbers ;)
Pindi Xpress have been derailed quite a few times but he has also derailed the best batting lineup in the world (Australia) quite a few times as well, and no bowler has accomplished that feat as of yet. Not even Baroda Xpress.
Anyways, you sound quite familiar, are you sure you are new?
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I laughed at any team? No sir! I was simply showing those who were making fun of Zaheer how stupid that was.
As to ranking - world cup is supposed to be a championship. In any championship, the winner is #1 and the runner up is #2. Beyond that all the numbers are good and great for pot bellied statisticians who don't actually play but just sit there crunching numbers.
But I do appreciate your last comment - unlike the others here who made fun of Zaheer, you at least seem to wish him well ...that is the sporting spirit
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Going by your educated theory are you claiming the fact that Kenya is better then South Africa, and are rightfully 3rd best team in the world.
Going by your educated theory are you claiming the fact that Kenya is better then South Africa, and are rightfully 3rd best team in the world.
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I must agree .... given the fact that SL and KEN were among the semi finalist in he last WC doesn't indicate that they r really top teams .....
one has to trace the way teams got through to the semi final (except IND as they deserved it) so anyone knows very well what happend to SL in their own backyard recently and what might happen to KEN if they play SA, ENG, WI, PAK, IND, NZ at any day, any venue ....
i guess ICELANDER u agree sofar ..... now to the rating: can anyone see some sort of indications in the ranking system that it is just based on a single tournament (or two, three tournaments)??? i think no ....
When Pak beat AUS in down under most ppl began to talk this PAK team is favourite for the WC 2003 but everyone saw how they were exposed to conditions in SA + poor display of skills + lackness (is this a word) on the field to act and perform as a well-knit unit ....
so all the prophecies about favourites were almost gone because those who dared a realistic analyze of that tea knew what's likely going to happen ..... we've seen the result ..... take a look back to WC 99 and u'll find some similarties for IND (even though they were in the Super6s) ....
Now back to the Topic, back to Zaheer planning a go at Aussies: It's good and i would love watching him doing that with success but to be realistic a single bowler (if not with an outstanding performance) can't conquer the Aussies .... WI showed the way .... hopefully the sub continent follows them ....
Since Zaheer is a Left hand bowler hi might cause troubles for Gilchrist because Gilli has problems with Left hand bowlers who maitain a line slightly outside the offstump + some movement off the pitch into the batsman (no short or over pitch stuff) ....
but if someone has followed the Aussies during the last 6 - 7 months or so then one has to admit that they struggled against oppsitions operating with more slow bowlers than pace bowlers which might be the key for IND success in AUS ..... especially in Test matches ..... Good luck India hope u don't get whipped they way SA or ENG in their last down under visit
The success of India's fortune on the Aussie tour depends not on all batsman but only one man, Sachin Tendulkar.
Guys like Dravid may be more consistent but his efforts alone won't win India, but Tendulkar's efforts alone gives India a chance which is very unlikely.
With all jokes aside, Zaheer Khan is a decent bowler, he might get a few cracks at the Aussie batsman but when it comes to big matches, he chokes like hell. In WC against Pakistan and Australia in final, he started bowling alot of extras and the expressions on his face told the whole story, if he is going to counter the Aussie batsman, then he would need to start performing in big events.
^ Of all the bs I heard, this last recount of Zaheer's stats against Australia is the one (assuming it is right) is most telling. That is a pretty bad record! Come on Zaheer, you gotta show us what you can do.
As to all the detracters here...go get a serious dose of sporting spirit
Is this a same guy who was trying so hard to be a bad boy in the first couple of overs in Wc final? right after that he got wacked all over the place.He is just a wanna be trash talker and it doesnt suit him at all.
I can understand with Shoaiib akhtar, he has that aggression and attitude problem. Even though he paid the price of his big mouth.
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The Success of Indian Team in Australia will depend on our Batsmen. If they score well, we will do well otherwise we wont.
I would like Zaheer to keep quiet and let his bowling do the talking for him.
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So if your batsmen score big against the Aussies than what? You think the Aussies don't have batsmen who can whack Zaheer or they can't score big. Even if your batsmen score big your bowling department suck big time so the Aussies won't have any problem chasing a big target, unless the luck is on your side.
Having said the above I think time will tell its not worth big mouthing at this time.
I think Zaheer is a decent bowler but for him to say things like this agaisnt the Aussies is like he's making a fool of himself.
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Is this a same guy who was trying so hard to be a bad boy in the first couple of overs in Wc final? right after that he got wacked all over the place.He is just a wanna be trash talker and it doesnt suit him at all.
I can understand with Shoaiib akhtar, he has that aggression and attitude problem. Even though he paid the price of his big mouth.
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Sherry, if Zaheer trash talked or boasted too much, I'd be the 1st one to censure him. Go read what he said (link available in the 1st post here) - he didn't say anything trashy or aggressive or egotist...he was in a social occasion and someone asked him some questions and he gave rather bland answers.
Just because everytime Shoaib and McGrath opens his mouth we're used to see trash coming out, I think someone assumed whenever a pace bowler talk to press, it's going to be the same...just read the Q&A before castigating Zaheer!
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So if your batsmen score big against the Aussies than what? You think the Aussies don't have batsmen who can whack Zaheer or they can't score big. Even if your batsmen score big your bowling department suck big time so the Aussies won't have any problem chasing a big target, unless the luck is on your side.
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If our batsmen score well then At least we wont end up losing the tests. If Zaheer Khan and his bowlers are given a score of 350+ to defend , I am very sure they can defend it.
Now before calling Indian bowlers names - Look at your main fast bowlers (who are so good and supposed to be the best in the world) and see how they have performed in the last tour of Australia.
