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so who is this Dr. Amjad Khan and what is this medical research institute?
someone get me a bio, a number and a url.
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Quote of Gr8: "We all know these kuffars want us to become shameless like them and eat haram as they do.
They are so cunning ppl and want us to drive away from Halal and Islam."
That is JUST absurd!!! Why ever would the "kuffars" want you to become "shameless" pork eaters? Perhaps its a conspiracy of the pig-farmers to get you to eat pork? Do you think the same applies to those of the Jewish faith, that the "kuffars" try to get them eating pork too? Thats not something I've ever encountered in all my life on this planet, Gr8...
"MO3 are you a muslim?"
What ever can that possibly have to do with the topic at hand? What I AM is a truth-seeker. Some Muslims seem to have some pretty nutty ideas about those who consume pork. I mean, just read the part above about the sexual behavior of pigs...I mean, lets get a grip here people. No offense intended, truly. But ignorance is definitely not bliss. Education and truth is where is at.
I personally don't go near haraam food and dont cosume anything that has these Haraam E numbered ingredients............But then again...people who eat it.......and claim to be muslims........i dont bother to correct them.........let them eat and enjoy.......haha.......
My theory is " I wont eat haram.......and they would..so God will make a distinction between them and me...........and i like to be different!" Plus if everybody start eating good halaal stuff then whats the use of us being a good muslim? they equal to us eh?
Let them eat pig and be sent to hellfire.............mmmmmmmmmm love it!
What a lovely Muslim example you are setting here. I hope that Allah SWT will distinguish between those who are just and compassionate and those who are vindictive and cruel.
There is such disgusting filth being spouted by humans (and Muslims) in this thread. The pigs are the least of our worries.
As for the thread topic, I really appreciate those people who do the extensive research and engage in the process of raising awareness and helping people consume only halal foods and engage in only halal behaviors. I ask that people cite their sources and check the authority of each person who distributes this information, in order to pass along truth only and not simply cause paranoia.
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exactly sahar, I want o know who these guys are who are listed as authors of this piece, what their background is, what this institute is and the basis of their research.
some of their claims have been rubbished by mad scientist already..being a professional inc insumer products industry he knows facts that the authors of this piece got wrong, as a consultant in the CPG industry i knew that as common knowledge as well. it is surprising that someone would get that stuff wrong.
I am still looking for these guys bios, urls and all.
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I am sure God won't send anyone to hell just because he/she consumed pig fat listed as E420 on the label :P
I am not so sure about the people who eat 'halal food' bought from 'haram kamai'.
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yaani zabeeha meat from rishwat kay paisay?
hmmmmm baat socchnay waali hay waisay
PS: e420... isnt that a mercedes anyways...
Hareem do you tell ppl that it's haram or stay quiet. I think you have to tell them. You guys can help muslims by printing and giving that to Muslims. ?
Yeah sometimes I do....people who go to mosques can have the printed list from there.
You are right. But do you know that they put V sign to fool ppl.
Did you find any authentic muslim ppl who assaign those v symbol.
Did you see different type of V sybol in UK? I did. How can those symbol be different?
errrr.....it doesn't matter if V sing is different, it should say under the sign "suitable for vegetarians".
People either muslim or non muslims can't lie about their food items being suitable for vegans or vegetarians par waham ka illaj to hakim luqman kay paas bhi nahi tha.
If we are so paranoid about everything then we shouldn't be even living in non muslim countries.
And whatever you said about Kuffaar, you shouldn't be saying things like that without any proof.
May be they have taken their info from this site which is official.
The Islamic CUltural Centre & The London Central Mosque - It’s Your Mosque Too !
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^ officially what? a bunch of bullcrap?
Since you don't blindly believe what is listed as ingredients on the food you eat, how enlightened is it for you to believe what these websites and "experts" are claiming?
Don't you understand that these are just manipulation and scare tactics? They are designed to keep us in fear and limit our lives! We, as Muslims, across the world are manipulated and played like puppets where these "experts in religion" pull our strings.
The only person you'll ever be able to trust is yourself. Do your own research! And if you're inclined to believe what someone else says make sure that this is a trusted source.
Most importantly, do everything with a neek and clean iman. To me, that is real meaning of halal..
Oh, and it was very little of you to challenge someone's faith! How un-Islamic is that!
^ officially what? a bunch of bullcrap?
Since you don't blindly believe what is listed as ingredients on the food you eat, how enlightened is it for you to believe what these websites and "experts" are claiming?
Don't you understand that these are just manipulation and scare tactics? They are designed to keep us in fear and limit our lives! We, as Muslims, across the world are manipulated and played like puppets where these "experts in religion" pull our strings.
The only person you'll ever be able to trust is yourself. Do your own research! And if you're inclined to believe what someone else says make sure that this is a trusted source.
Most importantly, do everything with a neek and clean iman. To me, that is real meaning of halal..
Oh, and it was very little of you to challenge someone's faith! How un-Islamic is that!
Where did I challenge someone?
Btw, have you done any research regarding this?
or maybe the mosque got it from these guys. that is besdies the point
The type of ignorant comments they have in their note, I really do want to see the qualifications of these guys, and what is this institute that one dude is affiliated with. 
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Hareem, I'm pretty sure that Somehowcollide was talking about gr8heera, not you...with the comment about challenging the faith of another. You have been receptive and always seeking truth. Gr8 has sometimes been lacking in this area :)
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...I particularly liked the part about how guy pigs are - well, pigs. And how other guy animals protect their wives - lol. Imagine the bull telling his cow-wife to wear hijaab when she goes out to graze :) and the rooster telling his hen-wife to cover her pretty head-feathers rotfl. And if you eat an animal that has "bad character" well you will come down with bad character too! The amusing anecdotes that come to mind are just too numerous and hilarious!
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I compared both lists, the one by Amjad khan and the other by London mosque and both are different. Amjad Khan's list looks like a mixture of false and truth, for example E100 (turmeric) is halal according to Islamic sources but Amjad Khan is declaring it haram.
Also I don't think if there's any Dr Amjad of USA medical institute exists. The article is probably written by some idiot just to stir hatred between muslims and non muslims.
It’s akin to saying (as someone did earlier in the thread) that people who consume no pork are angelic and know no sin! Only pork-eaters are thieves, adulterers, murderers – and lonely spinsters without rishtas!
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I compared both lists, the one by Amjad khan and the other by London mosque and both are different. Amjad Khan's list looks like a mixture of false and truth, for example E100 (turmeric) is halal according to Islamic sources but Amjad Khan is declaring it haram.
Also I don't think if there's any Dr Amjad of USA medical institute exists. The article is probably written by some idiot just to stir hatred between muslims and non muslims.
okay..so there we have it...and its not coming from me
that was the only thing I was after, we have to take these things with a grain of salt.
this list by Gabbar Singh did look like it had errors.
just because someone thros a list together and waxes lyrical on halal haram does not make it a fact. I would not have suspected it but I saw the ignorant comments there and thought that some reasonable scientist would not have such ridiculous thoughts, upon looking up reference sources it became clear that some of this is just plain BS.
Thats why i raised the question of the identity and qualifications of the gentlemen in question.
You are in UK, you can always just pick up the phone and call Mr. Khawaja at Halal Food Authority, he has probably dne more for halal food in UK than anyone else. They are one of my trusted sources.
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^Yes I saw their website. They do look authentic and trustworthy.
...I particularly liked the part about how guy pigs are - well, pigs. And how other guy animals protect their wives - lol. Imagine the bull telling his cow-wife to wear hijaab when she goes out to graze :) and the rooster telling his hen-wife to cover her pretty head-feathers rotfl. And if you eat an animal that has "bad character" well you will come down with bad character too! The amusing anecdotes that come to mind are just too numerous and hilarious!
that is such a funny statement..like when someone asks me why i dont eat pork, i mention about religious rulings and that there were health issues with pork then and still there is evidence that it is not the best thing to consume.
My jordanian pal, goes..well pig is the only animal that eats its refuse and allows other pigs to have sex with its wife...I was like dumbfounded..
this reminds me of a certain gentleman at my previous comoabny who wrote a letter to the CEO of the company about ramadan and how he should say something about it to the company in general. but the letter started with greetings, the fact taht it was ramadan and we fast, then explained that we cant eat or drink from sunriuse to sunset or have sex at that time,..
I was like dude...why shortchange Ramadan this way..anyways I digress..
the point being making such statements is just ridiculous..
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So the reason that you try to "better yourself" is so that you can feel superior to your fellow man????? And then actually gloat about it????
Nice.
^Yes I saw their website. They do look authentic and trustworthy.
I have known Mr Masud Khawaja since my childhood. their focus is on poulry and meat but thave resources at their disposal and can connect you to right ppl to help answer other questions. Its a good organisation.