Re: Would Musharraf had visited UK during worst floods??
Remember.
He is a proclaimed offender,Declared by honorable Sindh High Court and a court of Abbotabad. Bugti's murder case is behind him and he is also wanted in Benazir murder case.
Re: Would Musharraf had visited UK during worst floods??
^ Relax, Benazir was also a proclaimed offender at one point. It happens to all politicians in their bad times.
Re: Would Musharraf had visited UK during worst floods??
Actually he would not. Whatever you want to blame Musharraf for, during the Earthquake he was a good leader. We got the aid and the money. He did not travel with his children for shopping.
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He did not visit Kashmir or other area till the 8th day. On Sunday he only visited Islamabad.
That was a little better time but what they did was same which I posted.
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When did Zardari visit the affected areas?
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Brother, Jhoot bolna gunah hay ... especially when it is blatant lie that all can know. It seems that you are still living in pre-Musharraf era of ignorance ... such that, even when I am quoting newspaper of the time you are still adamant with lies. You should know that this is not pre-Musharraf era of ignorance when lies were currency of the day and people used to get away with ridiculous lies. Today, curtsey to President Musharraf, era of enlightenment has started in Pakistan and now only ignorant and Munafiqs live in lies while for those who are intelligent and do not want to stay ignorant, can see the recorded archives of information at various places. Many can even visit the time of events by reading Newspapers of the time. Your post:
Fact is that, what you wrote that Musharraf did not visit Kashmir or other areas till the 8th day of earthquake is blatant lie. Only ignorant, idiots and munfaiqs would buy such lies because truth is easily available as all news are available in archive of time.
Earthquake struck on Saturday 8th of Oct and I quoted ‘Paktribube’ dated Monday 10th of October reporting events of 8th and 9th of October, where it clearly mentioned that President Musharraf visited earthquake areas in Kashmir immediately after the earthquake (actually post-earthquake tremors were still happening in Kashmir when President Musharraf visited Kashmir) … still you are trying to sell lie. Why is that?
**I feel that you would like to live in lies, but for those who might not have time or energy to look for truth and their biases would buy anything against President Musharraf ... let take them to the time earthquake hit Pakistan going through newspaper ‘DAWN’ as events unfolded (my earlier source was 'Pak Tribune', now let go to another source ... that is DAWN).**
Headlines of Dawn 9th Oct 2005 (first issue after earthquake on 8th):
http://www.dawn.com/2005/10/09/index.htm
Response of President Musharraf just after the earthquake … from above issue of DAWN: http://www.dawn.com/2005/10/09/top1.htm
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Talking to reporters at site of collapsed high rise residential building in Islamabad, President Musharraf said the earthquake was a testing time for the country and expressed the belief that the nation would come up to the challenge.
“It is a challenging time for the nation and I urge the people to face this calamity with courage,” the president said.
The president said the government were pursuing an affective strategy to tackle the situation. He said Pakistan Air Force and Army Aviation were already using C-130 aircraft and ten MI-17 helicopters and were providing relief goods and casualties were being evacuated from the affected areas.
President Musharraf said the authorities reached promptly and the rescue operations had started immediately. The army, police, CDA and other volunteers were here for the rescue, he added. He said all the agencies were coordinating in providing relief and all resources would be made available for the rescue work.
He said President’s Relief Fund would be established to generate funds for the help of affected people.
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Regarding ‘PRESIDENT MUSHRAFF’ visiting all areas affected by earthquake within 24 hours:
From the issue of Monday 10th Oct 2005 (headlines: http://www.dawn.com/2005/10/10/index.htm) reporting of events that happened during first 36 hours after earthquake hit Kashmir (Note: Post-earthquake termors were still going on days after 8th October 2005 and also during Musharraf visting the area) … shows movement of President Musharraf in earthquake effected areas immediately after earthquake: [Please read it all carefully and correct yourself … Iss liya kay Allah ko jhoot pasand nahi hay]
http://www.dawn.com/2005/10/10/top3.htm
Musharraf vows comprehensive relief efforts: International help sought
RAWALPINDI, Oct 9: Assuring the nation of all-out rescue and relief effort, President General Pervez Musharraf on Sunday asked the international community to assist Pakistan with supplies of medicine, tents, cargo helicopters and cash to overcome the country’s worst earthquake.
“We do seek international assistance. We have enough manpower but we need financial support so that we may utilize it in a required way to cope with the tragedy. Then there is a need for large supplies of medicines, tents and cargo helicopters to reach out people in far-flung and cut-off areas, the bigger these copters the better,” he said in Rawalpindi prior to his departure on an visit to the quake-hit areas.
He thanked leaders of foreign countries who called him in the aftermath of the tragedy and offered their condolences and assistance.
The president said that it was too early to give an exact figure about the loss of lives, but they could be in the range of 15 to 18 thousand dead as per latest reports.
President Musharraf said there had been reports of extensive damage in Muzaffarabad, 50 per cent of the hilly city facing devastation as a number of schools and hospitals had collapsed and children were trapped inside.
In Mansehra and Balakot areas, there have been massive losses, he said.
He added about 80 people had been evacuated from the debris of the flattened Margalla Tower in the F-10 sector of Islamabad while 35 people had lost their lives. In addition, another 150 persons were said to be trapped under the rubble.
He appealed to the Pakistanis abroad to assist the government through donations to the relief fund.
“Allah has given you a lot and today your nation requires your support – I appeal to you to donate generously.”
He assured that all contributions made to the Fund would be accounted for and transparency observed with regard to the expenditure.
The president expressed his heartfelt condolences over the loss of lives and assured the stricken people that all available sources would be used for their early recovery, relief and rehabilitation.
“The Pakistani nation deserves all appreciation and encouragement for their immediate voluntary response to the calamity as they extended assistance to the government agencies in redressing the crisis,” he said.
“This is the same spirit we have to persist with in tackling the situation.”
In the last 24 hours, all national resources, including civil and military agencies, have been mobilized to overcome the damage wrought by earthquake.
In Islamabad, military and civil organizations are working to save maximum lives. In Muzaffarabad and Mansehra, Pakistan army has been directed to put all resources into use to support public in this hour of difficulty.
“All aviation helicopters have been employed and C-130 of PAF are also ready - but we should see that both routes to Muzaffarabad - through Murree and Abbottabad - have been blocked due to damage caused to roads.
In this situation, only helicopters can be helpful in rescue and relief operations. Similarly, in Mansehra and adjoining areas helicopters are delivering the services as C-130 cannot land there due to lack of landing strip.
He appealed that there was a need to refrain from a blame game as army and all public organizations were contributing to the relief effort.
“Let’s together support and encourage each other in carrying out the challenging task successfully.”
“I know that whenever our nation is confronted with a danger or a tragedy of such scale, we emerge as a united force and I am fully confident that the people will extend their fullest support, both in cash and kind, to mitigate the sufferings of the affected people.”
The president later visited Azad Jammu and Kashmir and Hazara division in the NWFP and reviewed rescue and relief operations. He assured the people of using all national resources for early redress of their sufferings.
He began his visit from Mansehra and Battal areas of the NWFP.
Addressing the local people, he said: “The entire nation stands by you in this hour of trial. The civilian and military organizations are carrying out concerted operations to pull the people out of this difficult situation,” he said.
He had a firsthand account of the extent of the damage and ascertained the assistance required for rehabilitation of the people through his interaction with them.
He also had an aerial view of Balakot, one of the worst-hit areas.
During his visit to Muzaffarabad, the president was briefed about the destruction by AJK Prime Minister Sardar Sikandar Hayat.
Outlining the priorities, President Musharraf said the first and foremost consideration was evacuation of people trapped in the debris of flattened structures.
“Then we must supply food, medicine and tents to the people rendered homeless,” he said.
He instructed the Frontier Works Organization to strive for the earliest possible reopening of the Muzaffarabad-Kohala-Murree road so that relief goods could be transported promptly.
“We have sought international assistance in reaching out to the cut-off areas and are working ceaselessly to overcome difficulties in transporting relief supplies”.
He visited Bagh and the army unit affected in the area. He also went to Rawalakot and addressed the local people, telling them that the best possible assistance was on its way to the victims.—APP
**[Brother … above report is of events during first 36 hours of earthquake and is not concocted … as what I quoted is ‘actual issue’ of the day from archive of DAWN’ newspaper. So, when it says that Musharraf was visiting earthquake areas immediately after earthquake than obviously what you wrote is lie.
You stayed adamant with your lies even when I quoted you newspaper ‘Pak Tribune dated 10th Oct 2005’ … now after I have quoted ‘DAWN dated 10th Oct 2005’ with more detailed report … kiya ab bhie aap apnay jhoot per datay raho gay kay President Musharraf did not go to Kashmir earthquake affected areas immediately after earthquake … and that he was quietly hiding in President house just like khardari?]**
Re: Would Musharraf had visited UK during worst floods??
When did Zardari visit the affected areas?
He did visit some areas in Sindh.
Some people say he also climbed on to a tractor trolley just to match the motorbike ride of Shahbaz Sharif.
What a strange competition these democ*rats* have LOL.
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This is very hard for me to face a blame of lie.
No link provided by you says that he visited Kashmir on Sunday.
He visited Kashmir on 8th day and what he spoke have no concern about what he did.
I request very learned people like haniball, CM, Spock.Captain 1 and others to check deeply who is telling a lie.
Actually Musharaf is responsible for thousands lives lost due to delay.
If anyone here is from AJK ,he can tell more about this.
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One thing Musharraf is good at: Marketing.
He is selling his manjan even when the country is drowning.
Re: Would Musharraf had visited UK during worst floods??
Actually he would not. Whatever you want to blame Musharraf for, during the Earthquake he was a good leader. We got the aid and the money. He did not travel with his children for shopping.
Ditto.
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he would not have because the commando was an angel dressed in the uniform...
he would have also singlehandedly prevented all the floods by standing in front of them. that's how good he was.
where's his facebook page. I'm going to go poke him... and then join his facebook party.
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@Anwer pasha: whats your problem??? can you read or is it so difficult to digest that musharraf went on sunday (one day after the earthquake) to muzaffarabad!!! or dont you know where this city is? Sa1eem gave you the link of a newspaper…go and read it!!!
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So whats stopping him from going and visiting the flood affected areas now?
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Musharaf was a good leader compared to Zardari. Zardari is just a man who used his widow to become a leader. Zardari has no grace and has no positive media presence. He lacks authority. Musharaf entered politics with a clean slate and got worse over time. Zardari has always been a rotten apple. It is just a complete big shame that such a person could become our President with his already gutter level reputation. When Musharaf took power there were big improvements - at least he gave the country a temporary high bump unlike Zardari whose rule has been a big ditch. Projects have stopped under Zardari. At least under Musharaf roads were built.
Zardari has more reason to visit because his party got votes in KP and Sindh.
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^ He could have just stayed in Pakistan and not visited these areas. But going to England, knighting his bachoongra just adds to the misery of this dunce being our president.
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Does anybody know why Gen. Kiyani was visiting UAE at the same time Zardari was?
And why no media focus on his visit, when arguably he is more powerful than Zardari ?
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Thank you for your link.
There is a detail report from Dawn also which was issued by government agency APP. But that did not claim his reaching Muzaffarabad.**
Musharraf vows comprehensive relief efforts: International help ..](Redirect Notice)**
Perhaps you know or not, these are mostly fabricated news.
You see photo on the news, Prime Minister of AJK was in Muzzafarabad that day sitting in his tent in PM house.He is not there.
Perhaps he went on his Disaster Tourism on some helicopter but didn’t land in Muzzafarabad. ( Another helicopter faced an incident killing all on board).
I still stand on my words.
He didn’t visit Muzaffarabad that day.
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Because if he did go to muzaffarabad, he would have visited you.
I remember that earthquake. He was on the ground and disaster relief plans were unrolled in 24 hrs,
It's the military. They're trained for it.
Not Pakistani civilian govts though. They couldn't even organize the chai at a pol party.
Re: Would Musharraf had visited UK during worst floods??
Because if he did go to muzaffarabad, he would have visited you.
It's the military. They're trained for it.
Not Pakistani civilian govts though. They couldn't even organize the chai at a pol party.
This time whole effected area of KP was under their total control.
What happened to the people.
Call your memory for last week of last month,
