World's worst test match supporters?

Phoneixdesi: couldn't agree with you more. Yes sports are important to every civilzation since they're a source of entertainment and pride but cricket just isn't king anymore. In fact, no single sport rules. Pakistanis have found other ways to be entertained. look at the declining sports ratings even in the USA. Look at the attendance for major league baseball games and hockey games. I've attended football games and I can tell you that it's more fun at home because you can follow the game better. That being said, yes India Pakistan is a bigger deal but you saw how packed the stadiums were for all five one days. Doesn't that say something? You saw the crowds give standing ovations to Indian achievements repeatedly, in every city. We simply did not begrudge them their success. Hatred for India just isn't what it used to be, especially with America on our other border.

India is probably the only truly cricket mad nation left. Yes it's our major sport and our best athletes go to play cricket but sports is not an industry in our country yet and it's probably a good thing. Our lives may be richer because of it. Anyone who's spent 8 hours in front of a TV watching cricket knows what a waste it can all seem like.

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Yes sports are important to every civilzation since they're a source of entertainment and pride but cricket just isn't king anymore...India is probably the only truly cricket mad nation left.

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I disagree. After India, Pakistan is definitely the next cricket mad nation in the world. This forum proves that fact. How do you explain big crowds in England, Australia and the West Indies then?

I think if a decent product is on offer the public will turn up. Take tv coverage for example. In Pakistan a few years back it was awful. Boring dull and biased. Last few years with introduction of Ten Sports, sponsorships and tv rights money we have seen teams of international commentators arriving in Pakistan, fantastic camera coverage, stump technology etc. It's just great viewing these days.

Something needs to be done to sell the test matches as well. Get companies to sponsor cheerleading teams to whip up the atmosphere Chacha cricket style. if one lone guy can do so much to make an event of things imagine what a determined effort could do?

I wonder if PCB's head honcho is thinking along those lines?. If I were him I would have a small team just to develop ideas that would bring in gate money. It's not rocket science. You can consult other countries and then apply some of the innovative ideas that have synergies with the Pakistani culture. Ofcourse, my idea of cheerleaders was a far fetched one but there are other things one can do. Xtreme's idea of concerts during lunch is a great one. How about building more of the pavillion type boxes and selling them to corporations on a season basis. Here in the USA, one can purchase season tickets at discounted prices and season pass holders get preference in seat selection. This way PCB can have all the cash upfront and plan better.

along with former cricketers in PCB

u need Business minded people which PCB lacks or juss r not creative enough

We need change in PCB it self

SEASONAL TICKETS WON'T WORK WHE THERE ARE NO GURANTEES THE FORTHCOMING TOUR WILL GO ON OR NOT !

AND NOT TO MENTIONS VISTING TEAMS PICKING THE CITIES TO PLAY CRICKET IN, MOSTLY LAHORE

Well you have an event here that is watched by millions on the tv. Broadcasting rights were going out all over the world. It's in the interests of all that we don't have empty stadiums killing the event and reflecting Pak cricket in a bad light.

How about sponsors providing school buses for a different school from each city for a different day of each match? The kids could all wear the sponsors t-shirst proclaiming 'So & So supports test cricket!'

Tie in the test match tickets with live concerts performed on different days of respective tests. So if you buy a test match ticket you get to see a local act during the lunch break followed by a big star at the end of play. A lot of the Pakistani pop stars like Faakhir and Shezad Roy are big fans of cricket, I'm sure some arrangement could be worked out. Get Lahore artists performing in Lahore, Karachi artists performing in Karachi etc.

Why can't PCB figure this out

there are some good suggestions here

Get Ramiz here on this site lolz

thats why i m all for OFFICIAL PCB Forum from head quarters of PCB in Lahore !

I know I am reiiterating the point made in an earlier post, but the biggest problem with the tests is that they can result in draws. This to spectators is a waste of their time for 5 days. Sachin is well-liked by Pak spectators because they are there to watch something happen no matter if it is an Indian that is making it happen. A test match that can drag on for 5 days in burning heat and then wimp out in a draw is a collosal bore.

ODIs are popular because with the exception of an exactly equal score, an ODI would not be draw. Long term ICC has this problem with tests. Test have to start looking like longer ODIs, example 200 overs game and result guaranteed to be not a draw.

Arvind the ICC will only have a problem when the rest of the public stops watching test matches. At the moment grounds in Australia, England, Sri Lanka and the West Indies are still attracting audiences.

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Arvind the ICC will only have a problem when the rest of the public stops watching test matches. At the moment grounds in Australia, England, Sri Lanka and the West Indies are still attracting audiences.
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And Also ...TEST cricket these days produce results unlike in past.These days 75-80% matches have result.

I can blame every thing on Rashid Latif ( the famous whistle blower )
He better come up with some evidence now or Shut the F***up for ever

The other part of the article was not relevant but the link is there

Sambit Bal is editor of Wisden Asia Cricket and Wisden Cricinfo in India

"…The scenes at the cricket ground, however, are depressing. There is a funereal atmosphere inside the Gaddafi stadium, not unlike the ones you find at Ranji Trophy games in India. Only 1300-odd people watch Umar Gul scythe through the Indian batting line-up on the first day, and even the prospect of good batting day for Pakistan fails to enthuse the locals.

Such disenchantment is perplexing. It is argued that the one-day series whetted the appetite of cricket fans in Pakistan, but the one-sided Test in Multan further diminished their enthusiasm. **A local journalist offers an even more disquieting explanation. “To tell you the truth,” he says, “Pakistanis take the allegations of match-fixing much more seriously than the ICC.”

If true, there cannot be a greater tragedy for cricket." **

http://usa.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/CRICKET_NEWS/2004/APR/118155_PAKIND2003-04_06APR2004.html

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Says it all.

A few hours to go..will be interesting to see if the crowds turn up with the series balanced at 1-1. I hear the heat is unbearable out there right now. Have we ever played a home test series in mid- April before?

Just wondering?

one more reason for poor turnout maybe matches are held on weekdays - test matches started on Mon ended on Fri...i think this move is utterly stupid..

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one more reason for poor turnout maybe matches are held on weekdays - test matches started on Mon ended on Fri...i think this move is utterly stupid..
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Well, technically they are starting on Tuesday to end on the weekend (i.e. Saturday), unless you are naming the days from some American time zone. :-)

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A few hours to go..will be interesting to see if the crowds turn up with the series balanced at 1-1. I hear the heat is unbearable out there right now. Have we ever played a home test series in mid- April before?

Just wondering?
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I have bad memory, but wasn't it New Zealand we played in May before they canceled their tour after the Karachi blast? Yeah, we have played as late as May.

Exciting cricket that fails to stir](http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/040414/2/3979.html)

RAWALPINDI, Pakistan (Reuters) - Virender Sehwag cracked an Indian record 309 and newcomer Umar Gul produced an unlikely golden spell of five for 31.

Inzamam-ul-Haq struck a masterly century and Sachin Tendulkar was left stranded on 194 by a surprising declaration.

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India’s historic test tour of Pakistan, tied 1-1 with the ongoing decider looking likely to produce a result, has not been short on excitement.

But the stands have still been deserted.

The reason? All of the above.

India’s first full series in Pakistan in over 14 years, accompanied by strong political overtones, has produced such superlative cricket that the general consensus in Pakistan is that it is being played to a script.

There is no tangible evidence to prove the charge, nor is there any indication that it might be true.

But it is the major reason for Pakistanis, who normally wear their hearts on their sleeves during encounters with India, staying away from the grounds in the test series.

The "fixing’ allegations, which players from both sides have taken exception to, were first made by former captain Rashid Latif in a television interview during India’s 3-2 one-day series win in five thrilling encounters.

Though the Pakistan board condemned his comment and denied the charge, it seems to have struck a chord with the public.

In Multan, where India won the first test following Sehwag’s heroics, a senior bureaucrat openly highlighted the impact of the charge on the low turnout at the stadium.

“One big reason for people not coming for the match is because there is a feeling among the people that the matches are fixed,” Mohammad Ejaz Chaudhary, Multan’s district coordination officer, told reporters.

“Not for money, but in order to build goodwill among the countries.”

SENTIMENT REPEATED

People repeated the sentiment across the country, right from Karachi carpet-seller Shakeel Ahmed to Lahore businessman Junaid Mian to Rawalpindi bookseller Abdul Shakil.

India and Pakistan have fought three wars against each other since 1947 and were close to a fourth conflict two years ago.

Relations have thawed over the last year and the current tour is seen as the biggest symbol of the stuttering peace process between the nuclear-armed neighbours.

“The two countries have already decided the result of the matches to make each other happy. India won the one-day series and I’ll be surprised if Pakistan don’t win the tests,” said Multan taxi driver Abdul Karim.

The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) says a bigger reason for the crowds staying away is that the more popular one-dayers were played before the tests.

“When India insisted on playing the one-day internationals before the test series, we were always apprehensive it would reduce interest in the tests,” the board’s chief executive Rameez Raja said.

After packed stadiums for the one-day series, only a few thousand turned up for the Multan test and there were sometimes only a few hundred at Lahore.

At Rawalpindi, the scenes were more encouraging but the stands on the first two days were, at best, only a third full.

India won the first test by an innings and 52 runs but Pakistan hit back with an emphatic nine-wicket victory in the second and the attitude on the field, however, has been of “no quarter given and none asked for”.

“If I wasn’t playing the matches, I wouldn’t have missed them for anything in the world,” said one Indian player.

“The tests have been intense, charged and have produced some great cricket. If you don’t come to the ground, it’s simply your loss.”

Pak supporters are just not keen on test match cricket at the end of the day. All this ‘match-fixing’ BS doesn’t stop them flocking to the one day games does it?

**“If I wasn’t playing the matches, I wouldn’t have missed them for anything in the world,” said one Indian player.

“The tests have been intense, charged and have produced some great cricket. If you don’t come to the ground, it’s simply your loss.”**

damn right :k: