Re: Woolmer was a "shrewd operator" : Razzaq
Ab pashtana kya jab chiriya chuggi khait. Under the tenure of the 'shrewd operator' Razzaq made It In the TEST side when he shouldn't have.
Re: Woolmer was a "shrewd operator" : Razzaq
You people are being overly sensitive. Yes, the comments were extremely untimely, but he must have really felt it was important to come out and say it, especially risking his reputation and everything. It's not as though he went to the news rubbing his hands gleefully, wondering in how many ways he could defile Woolmer's name. The comments were untimely, but he made it clear he was not disrespecting the dead man.
Re: Woolmer was a "shrewd operator" : Razzaq
Comments like these reflect to the root cause of the unpredictability of Pakistani performance. It reflects the psyche of our players. I think Haroon Rasheed very rightly stresses the need for educated players. As long as Pakistani produce “talented” but psychologically and intellectually unstable players we can never be world beaters.
Re: Woolmer was a "shrewd operator" : Razzaq
excuse me being a paindoo doesn't make you stupid
a paindoo can easily be smarter than a PhD who's had more opportunities
take the local gas man and compare him to my school principal...
(losing the point, I know)
Re: Woolmer was a "shrewd operator" : Razzaq
so most of us have decided to believe whatever he said about Woolmer. How come this was only reported by india times and not anyone else?
With the death of Bob Woolmer this statement/news should have been a headline on cricket websites/sports pages, atleast on April 16th.
Re: Woolmer was a "shrewd operator" : Razzaq
^If you read the above article, Razzaq is reported to have made those comments to Khaleej Times.
IndiaTimes is only quoting him. Also, Razzaq is not that great a personality (he wasn't even there in the WC) that his comments would make instant headlines.
Re: Woolmer was a “shrewd operator” : Razzaq
Can comeone tell me why I should not believe Razzaq???
If he is not right then what is there to disprove of him?
Regardless of what Razzaq says, I say find a local Pakistsani coach and never outsource the job.
Re: Woolmer was a “shrewd operator” : Razzaq
**NOTE : **The above news is from back in April (see date on my original post). Please keep that in mind while posting.
Pak cricket has obviously moved on since.
e.g. FROM Ashraf stating that the next Coach will not be a foreigner (http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ci/content/story/288153.html )
TO interviewing 3 Aussies for the job 
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Re: Woolmer was a "shrewd operator" : Razzaq
excuse me being a paindoo doesn't make you stupid a paindoo can easily be smarter than a PhD who's had more opportunities take the local gas man and compare him to my school principal... (losing the point, I know)
Where did I say being a paindoo makes you stupid?
Re: Woolmer was a “shrewd operator” : Razzaq
I get your point. But I am not sure what Mr Rashid’s own credentials are…it’s a bit like the Punjab Chief Minister Pervez Eahi (who himself is 9th Fail and his first cousin (the king maker) Ch. Shujaat ( a real paindoo) is matric fail - jisse theek se baat tak karni nahin aati 
) stressing the need for education in Punjab. The only truly educated Pakistani players (who have gone on to complete graduation) I know are Imran Khan, Ramez Raja and Saeed Anwar (and a few others). Because it’s almost impossible to complete your education if you’re serious about playing for Pakistan (you have to get in the team by the age of 21-22 at the latest apart from a few exceptions) what we all really mean here is good schooling which sadly the great majority of them lack dearly.
Re: Woolmer was a "shrewd operator" : Razzaq
^ I don't see any problem if any Jahil is stressing for education, may be they understand the importance of it.
Re: Woolmer was a “shrewd operator” : Razzaq
Time and again you come across a counter argument of the type. But the fact of the matter is that a fact remains a fact no matter who says it. Irrelevant of the how educated Haroon Rashid is what he is saying or at least trying to say is correct. (Btw I think Haroon Rasheed did attend University but regardless of what kind of formal education he makes a lot of sense.)
I avoided the word “educated” as it is taken on the lines of formal schooling. (I don’t think all who have attended collage and go to universities are actually “educated”.)Don’t care if they don’t have a degree, but they should have that character and emotional intelligent and intellect to help them focus on and channel their abilities to do what they are there for.
Re: Woolmer was a "shrewd operator" : Razzaq
I wouldnt believe anything by the media if i havent heard it uttered from the respective person's own mouth. The media likes to fling facts and fiction here and there. Experienced first hand.
Re: Woolmer was a “shrewd operator” : Razzaq
Bad shot Razzaq :bash:
Re: Woolmer was a "shrewd operator" : Razzaq
Time and again you come across a counter argument of the type. But the fact of the matter is that a fact remains a fact no matter who says it. Irrelevant of the how educated Haroon Rashid is what he is saying or at least trying to say is correct. (Btw I think Haroon Rasheed did attend University but regardless of what kind of formal education he makes a lot of sense.)
I avoided the word “educated” as it is taken on the lines of formal schooling. (I don’t think all who have attended collage and go to universities are actually “educated”.)Don’t care if they don’t have a degree, but they should have that character and emotional intelligent and intellect to help them focus on and channel their abilities to do what they are there for.
Agreed. But you can clearly see what education did for guys like Imran Khan, Majid Khan, Asif Iqbal and Rameez Raja i.e. they all have one thing in common, they come across as intelligent and savvy and are very presentable. That's why you need both smart parental upbringing (not every parent does it well) and good schooling