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Well pakistani Malk Riaz, could just steal and develop it would Greeks or Italian knowing it :snooty:
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Talked to a couple of syrians apparently no one will let them and the countries that do have extremly high cost of a visa as much as £25000 which many cant afford. Some have been able to get into some countries through having family members reside their such as in Egypt and Saudi and Dubai their family can sponsor them, but even then i hear its very difficult.
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Saudi has taken 500,000 refugees in past 4 years since the start of this war but they aren't counted as refugees because they're on visit status. UAE hasn't taken many but has been giving aid in millions of dollars.
The reason why these countries don't want too many refugees is coz of the security reasons.
Now coming towards Europe, Europe started paying attention to Syrian refugees only when they reached their shore. And even now when Germany has taken in 80,000 the German public is not happy with it. Please google for German public opinion on Syrian refugees.
The ones that are stuck in Hungary and Francd have been treated badly in camps...and I see loads of people in Europe have started to show their concerns over ISIS among refugees.
Tthe refugee crisis may reach 25 million if carries on this rate....personally I'm stark against any people leaving their country in such huge amount of numbers instead of staying and fighting.
The world needs to address the root cause....take out Assd and ISIS and you'll end the crisis.
Meanwhile, Russians have started an army build up in Syria, Gulf states and Saudi are dealing with Houtis in Yemen, Iran needs to step down from supporting Assad and Houtis but it won't coz Russia's got its back and probably US too after the recent deals.
The solution would be to develop a huge army consisting on nationalities from muslim countries around the world including Pakistan...send them to Syria for a gorilla war because aerial bombing won't do any good....take out Assad and ISIS, bring a moderate Sunni government and leave them to it.
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Why not secular govt that represent all people instead of Shia or Sunni? Isn’t problem in ME is too much religion? When you set up anything based on Shia/Sunni its bound to fail.
Btw, I don’t know where you are getting your numbers, but the Gulf States have unofficial ban on Syrian refugees.
Migrant crisis: Why Syrians do not flee to Gulf states - BBC News
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The only Syrians in the middle East are those with work permits (not different to pakistanis and people of other nationalities working there), not easy to get the permit…
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Saudi has taken 500,000 refugees in past 4 years since the start of this war but they aren't counted as refugees because they're on visit status. UAE hasn't taken many but has been giving aid in millions of dollars. The reason why these countries don't want too many refugees is coz of the security reasons.
Now coming towards Europe, Europe started paying attention to Syrian refugees only when they reached their shore. And even now when Germany has taken in 80,000 the German public is not happy with it. Please google for German public opinion on Syrian refugees.
The ones that are stuck in Hungary and Francd have been treated badly in camps...and I see loads of people in Europe have started to show their concerns over ISIS among refugees.
The refugee crisis may reach 25 million if carries on this rate....personally I'm stark against any people leaving their country in such huge amount of numbers instead of staying and fighting.
The world needs to address the root cause....take out Assd and ISIS and you'll end the crisis.
Meanwhile, Russians have started an army build up in Syria, Gulf states and Saudi are dealing with Houtis in Yemen, Iran needs to step down from supporting Assad and Houtis but it won't coz Russia's got its back and probably US too after the recent deals.
The solution would be to develop a huge army consisting on nationalities from muslim countries around the world including Pakistan...send them to Syria for a gorilla war because aerial bombing won't do any good....take out Assad and ISIS, bring a moderate Sunni government and leave them to it.
The refugees are turning up on European shores because they know those countries have Human Rights, they are hopeful that they would still be treated better there than in racist Gulf Sates. Where is the Arab pride now? Why aren't these refugees knocking on Gulf borders instead of travelling all the way to Europe in ice cold water and sleeping under the open sky in cold and wet European weather.
Yeah Gulf states don't want to take in refugee for 'security concerns' but European countries cannot have that same concerns? Look at the relief work Europeans are doing for refugees. These European countries were having a intense immigration debate way before the refugee crises erupted, but despite almost having made their minds up to tackle immigration at all costs, they have still opened their borders for refugees, and doing something. There is a sense of panic and responsibility in Europe, but where is that same panic and responsibility in Gulf states?
Pope has taken notice of Refugee crises, asking Vatican families to hist refugees but where is your Imam e Kaba? Where are the thakeydaars of Islam and Muslim ummah? The Finland PM has offered his own home for refugees, but where are your Gulf Kings and Princes?
Do you know a lot of refugees are also coming from Yemen, who is bombing them there - yes the Saudi and the UAE. These racist Gulf countries are a bane on Muslim world, may God's curse be upon them for bringing so much destruction and bloodshed in Muslim countries. So much ummah.
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The refugees are turning up on European shores because they know those countries have Human Rights, they are hopeful that they would still be treated better than racist Gulf Sates. Where is the Arab pride? Why aren't these refugees knocking on Gulf borders instead of travelling all the way to Europe and sleeping under the open sky in cold European weather.
Yeah Gulf states don't want to take in refugee status for 'security concerns' but European countries cannot have that same concerns? Look at the relief work Europeans are doing for refugees. These European countries were having immigration debate way before the refugee crises, but despite almost having made their mind up to tackle immigration at all cost, they have still opened their borders for refugees, doing something.
Pope has taken notice of Refugee crises, asking Vatican families to hist refugees but where is your Imam e Kaba? Where are the thakeydaars of Islam and Muslim ummah? The Finland PM offered his own home for refugees, but where are your Gulf Kings and Princes?
Do you know a lot of refugees are also coming in from Yemen, who is bombing them there - yes the Saudi and the UAE. These racist Gulf countries are a bane on Muslim world, may God's curse be upon them for bringing so much destruction and bloodshed in Muslim countries. So much ummah.
They are turning to european shores from Turkey, not arab countries and the main reason due to Europe being more developed. Many have settled with family in Egypt and Saudi . Since they live with their family they aren't always classed as refugees. Some news reports claim 0 refugees have been taken in by Gulf countries which is clearly a lie as i have friends who have fleed to these countries a currently reside their; so don't always beleive the propaganda of the news. Your just falling into their trap of building up hate against other muslims and arabs.
I believe that its important to give credit where its due. I don't believe that Europe has gone out of its way** more** than **other countries like Jordan, Turkey and Iraq who have taken in many refugees as soon as the war began. European media tends to enjoy showing how much they are doing for the rest of the world and how their suffering as a result. Don't get fooled into thinking the few thousands** they are taken are the majority when they are just helping out whats left of the majority taken in by other Arab countries.
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^ you make some good points. But there appears to be a contradiction with post 24.
Someone brought up determining root cause. One of which is the role religion plays in politics and governance.
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They are turning to european shores from Turkey, not arab countries and the main reason due to Europe being more developed. Many have settled with family in Egypt and Saudi . Since they live with their family they aren't always classed as refugees. Some news reports claim 0 refugees have been taken in by Gulf countries which is clearly a lie as i have friends who have fleed to these countries a currently reside their; so don't always beleive the propaganda of the news. Your just falling into their trap of building up hate against other muslims and arabs.
I believe that its important to give credit where its due. I don't believe that Europe has gone out of its way** more** than **other countries like Jordan, Turkey and Iraq who have taken in many refugees as soon as the war began. European media tends to enjoy showing how much they are doing for the rest of the world and how their suffering as a result. Don't get fooled into thinking the few thousands** they are taken are the majority when they are just helping out whats left of the majority taken in by other Arab countries.
The key word was Arab **Gulf **states not Muslim countries. Syrian refugees that have families in Saudi , are going to their families. These Gulf states are not taking them nor the Syrians have any desire to knock on these racist and fasaadi Gulf states' door because they don't feel welcomed there.
European countries are not the believers of the great Muslim Ummah or Arab pride, they really don't have to go out of their way to help refugees. It is the evil Gulf states that feel no shame to see stranded refugees, feeling helpless and humiliated in kafir countries, while they sit back. Gulf states have more than good enough infrastructure and wealth to host these refugees on temporary basis.
It is no propaganda, behind every bloody war and destruction in Muslim country done by Western country - there is a Saudi backing and support. Muslim world's miseries have only multiplied by a big rate ever since this evil force and ideology came into existence less than a century ago.
If Saudi Arabia not being a home to Islam's holiest sites, some of the Muslim countries themselves will get together to bomb them for destroying their countries.
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The key word was Arab **Gulf **states not Muslim countries. Syrian refugees that have families in Saudi , are going to their families. These Gulf states are not taking them nor the Syrians have any desire to knock on these racist and fasaadi Gulf states' door because they don't feel welcomed there.
European countries are not the believers of the great Muslim Ummah or Arab pride, they really don't have to go out of their way to help refugees. It is the evil Gulf states that feel no shame to see stranded refugees, feeling helpless and humiliated in kafir countries, while they sit back. Gulf states have more than good enough infrastructure and wealth to host these refugees on temporary basis.
It is no propaganda, behind every bloody war and destruction in Muslim country done by Western country - there is a Saudi backing and support. Muslim world's miseries have only multiplied by a big rate ever since this evil force and ideology came into existence less than a century ago.
If Saudi Arabia not being a home to Islam's holiest sites, some of the Muslim countries themselves will get together to bomb them for destroying their countries.
Yeah they could do more, instead they seem to have had an influx of women from far East Asia and Eastern Europe in the prostitution business, so i guess their not doing so well in a religious sense. Let Allah judge them is what i say. I'm not sure about Saudi being the backing force behind the problems in the mid east though? Care to explain why you say that?
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^ you make some good points. But there appears to be a contradiction with post 24.
Someone brought up determining root cause. One of which is the role religion plays in politics and governance.
I just thing which should give credit where its due which is why i replied to Jolie and bringing up the point of that people in the Gulf have offered some help other than what the media is portraying as none. Obviously its not easy though and their is a lack of help to the refugees.
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Sitting in Us, UK, Australia and pointing fingers at Muslim Countries that didnt have anything to do with Iraq invasion and ISIS. Read the article about US and ISIS posted in Tge Guardian today.
Btw, what havd you guys personally done to support refugees at your door in Calaise? Im sure Syrian refugees will never be treated the way the Calaise refugees are being treated by EU.
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Majority of Syriand in Sunni…not secular, thats why.
Stop turning blind eye to the facts…this is what this whole mess is about, shia vs sunni. Shia Bahrainis arent even letting the Syrian refugees in the country.
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The refugees are turning up on European shores because they know those countries have Human Rights, they are hopeful that they would still be treated better there than in racist Gulf Sates. Where is the Arab pride now? Why aren't these refugees knocking on Gulf borders instead of travelling all the way to Europe in ice cold water and sleeping under the open sky in cold and wet European weather.
Yeah Gulf states don't want to take in refugee for 'security concerns' but European countries cannot have that same concerns? Look at the relief work Europeans are doing for refugees. These European countries were having a intense immigration debate way before the refugee crises erupted, but despite almost having made their minds up to tackle immigration at all costs, they have still opened their borders for refugees, and doing something. There is a sense of panic and responsibility in Europe, but where is that same panic and responsibility in Gulf states?
Pope has taken notice of Refugee crises, asking Vatican families to hist refugees but where is your Imam e Kaba? Where are the thakeydaars of Islam and Muslim ummah? The Finland PM has offered his own home for refugees, but where are your Gulf Kings and Princes?
Do you know a lot of refugees are also coming from Yemen, who is bombing them there - yes the Saudi and the UAE. These racist Gulf countries are a bane on Muslim world, may God's curse be upon them for bringing so much destruction and bloodshed in Muslim countries. So much ummah.
You obviously have no idea whats going on in Yemen, do you? Do you want houtis to take over Yemen, Saudi and UAE and turn them into another Syria? Do you know they've been killing and raping sunni Yemenis? But I agree....aerial bombing is not the solution, they should be fought on ground.
Just 2 days ago, 5 Bahrainis and 4 UAE soldiers' deadbodies were brought back from Yemen...these soldiers are protecting oppressed Yemenis from houtis. Shame on you for being blinded by your hatred for Arabs. I have always seen you spewing poison about Arabs so you should be probably happy theyre suffering....why should you care about them.
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Here’s the link for Saudi aid to Yemen, Syria, Zatari camp in Jordan, and some countries in Africa. Saudi has its flaws but they’re not evil as claimed by Miss Jolie and some of you brainwashed by the media.
https://www.saudiembassy.net/affairs/recent-news/foreign-aid/
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Before your hatred let you get carried away, do educate yourself on Yemen situation, Houthis, Zaidis, Arab Coalition, AQAP, and US drones.
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You obviously have no idea whats going on in Yemen, do you? Do you want houtis to take over Yemen, Saudi and UAE and turn them into another Syria? Do you know they've been killing and raping sunni Yemenis? But I agree....aerial bombing is not the solution, they should be fought on ground.
Just 2 days ago, 5 Bahrainis and 4 UAE soldiers' deadbodies were brought back from Yemen...these soldiers are protecting oppressed Yemenis from houtis. Shame on you for being blinded by your hatred for Arabs. I have always seen you spewing poison about Arabs so you should be probably happy theyre suffering....why should you care about them.
Saudis are protecting Oppressed Yemenis from houthis, I am sure they'd have similar assertions as well. Bottom line is we have started to look at every conflict with tainted sectarian glasses
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The biggest winners in Saudi war on Yemen would be AQ and ISIS who in the future would be the biggest danger for Saudia. Due to their policies they are getting surrounded by these groups (Syria, Yemen and Iraq). Iran’s role in Yemen is exaggerated, they’d be happy to see Saudis getting bogged down there.