Why can't Indian govt. round up the killers of Muslims in India?

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killing each other?
whoes killing whom?
the angry muslims who are carrying out the bombings are being arrested under pota?
and what about the people who are killing muslims? its the men with authority that are killing muslims its the govt which is killing muslims how do you deal with it? the people who are accused of burning the train are arrested under pota? while the people who murdered muslims are elected back to power?
the officers who have tried to save muslims from mobs are being transferred? and the killers are being reawarded.
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you make thew body count as hindus and muslims i do it by total # of south asians
killed in last thousand years it may be around 80 million all in th name of god.

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And what does your DMK say about the BJP-RSS hate campaign against Muslims? Did your DMK leave the BJP-RSS led Indian government after the geoncide of Muslims in Gujrat?

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And what does your DMK say about the BJP-RSS hate campaign against Muslims? Did your DMK leave the BJP-RSS led Indian government after the geoncide of Muslims in Gujrat?
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dmk is represents ethinic identity that includes dravidian muslims.

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dmk is represents ethinic identity that includes dravidian muslims.
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I believe 90% of "Dravidians" are Hindu's, but if the DMK really represented the interests of Muslims then it would have pulled out of the BJP-RSS government after the genocide of Muslims in Gujrat? But is chose to stay in - why?

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The Genesis
To liberate the Dravidian race from the shackles of superstition and religious dogmas, to revive and restore the ancient heritage of Tamil and Tamilnadu, and to protect Tamil language from Hindi imperialism, Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam – (DMK) was founded by Dr. C.N. Annadurai – better known as Anna (Elder brother) on 17th September 1949.

http://www.thedmk.org/histmain.html

Her eis a little tidbit about caste. It means nothing. A higher caste Yadav in Delhi or UP is a lower caste Yadav in Bihar. A higher caste Sharma in UP is a lower caste Sharma in Punjab. It means nothing...you gys think the country revolves around casteism, it actually revolves around the economy. Which is the great equalizer.

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Ok, now that you have told me about the Genesis of the DMK (which I am already aware) i.e. to stand upto “Hindi imperialism”, now tell us why is the DMK and other so-called “secular” parties still part of the BJP-RSS government, after the genocide of Muslims in Gujrat?

P.S. Do you share the DMK’s belief that these “Hindi-speakers” are imperialists?

^ It is called factionalism and democracy, Federalist paper by Madison. I know it is an alien concept but try a little harder. You might get it.

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*Originally posted by Malik73: *

Ok, now that you have told me about the Genesis of the DMK (which I am already aware) i.e. to stand upto "Hindi imperialism", now tell us why is the DMK and other so-called "secular" parties still part of the BJP-RSS government, after the genocide of Muslims in Gujrat?

P.S. Do you share the DMK's belief that these "Hindi-speakers" are imperialists?
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we all chauvnistic in when it comes to languages

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*Originally posted by kabir: *

killing each other?
whoes killing whom?
the angry muslims who are carrying out the bombings are being arrested under pota?
and what about the people who are killing muslims? its the men with authority that are killing muslims its the govt which is killing muslims how do you deal with it? the people who are accused of burning the train are arrested under pota? while the people who murdered muslims are elected back to power?
the officers who have tried to save muslims from mobs are being transferred? and the killers are being reawarded.
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kabir, we share your anguish!

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we all chauvnistic in when it comes to languages
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Very nice. But you forgot to answer the question. What is your supposedly secular party, the DMK and other supposedly secular parties in India doing propping up the BJP-RSS government in New Delhi?

Have any of these parties made an issue of bringing the culprits of the Gujrat genocide to justice?

^ It is called democracy and faactionalism. A temperate way, recommened in multi party systems of Parliamentary democracies to temper the wishes of th eruling coalition through deliberation.

^ So if the BJP had not been "tempered" the burning of Muslims would have spread from Gujerat to Assaam???

This is the greatest thing in India, a Vibrant Democracy. I hope the culprits are punished.

Court raps Gujarat over riot case

India’s Supreme Court has launched a scathing attack on the authorities in the state of Gujarat over their handling of a riot last year in which 12 Muslims were burned to death in a bakery by a Hindu mob.

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“I have no faith left in the prosecution and the Gujarat Government,” Chief Justice VN Khare said on Friday.
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Twenty-one Hindus were acquitted of killing the Muslims in a controversial ruling last June after many of the prosecution witnesses withdrew their evidence.

The incident came during rioting in Gujarat in which more than 1,000 people, most of them Muslims, were killed.

“Eyewash”

The Supreme Court issued its comments on the Gujarat government on Friday, while hearing a petition from India’s Human Rights Commission which is demanding a retrial in what has become known as the Best Bakery case, named after the bakery in the city of Baroda where the Muslims died.

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If you fail to act then we will have to step in. We are not sitting here as mere spectators", Chief Justice Khare said. **

And the three Supreme Court judges ordered the head of police in Gujarat and the state’s top civil servant, the chief secretary, to appear before the court to explain their role in the controversy. to it has ordered

Human rights groups say the Best Bakery case is an example of how there has been little justice in Gujarat for the victims of last years riots.

Many Muslims in Gujarat now say they live in fear.

One of the witnesses, 19-years-old Zahira Sheikh, later fled the state.

She then said she had lied in court and not testified against the accused because she had been threatened by senior figures in the local organisation of the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party.

After that, the Gujarat Government, led by Chief Minister Narendra Modi, launched an appeal against the acquittals in the Best Bakery case.

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But the federal supreme court was damning in its consideration of Mr Modi’s government’s appeal, dismissing it as “an eyewash”.

“You quit if you cannot prosecute the guilty. Democracy does not mean that you will not prosecute anyone,” Chief Justice Khare said.

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Request rejected

The court said it was the duty of the authorities to protect the people and punish the offenders but in this case it appeared that the state government did not perform its duty properly.

You haven’t started re-investigation or re-examination," the court told the Gujarat state government lawyer.

The state government, represented by Additional Solicitor General Mukul Rohatgi, said many riots have taken place in the country in the last 40 years with the guilty going unpunished.

He cited the anti-Sikh riots of 1984 and said many of the accused are still free.

The counsel then asked the court to give the government some more time so that it could amend its appeal challenging the acquittal of the Best Bakery accused.

But the court rejected his request.

The riots began after a suspected Muslim mob attacked a train and killed nearly 60 Hindu passengers.

The authorities in Gujarat have been accused of not stopping Hindu mobs taking revenge on Muslims.

^ Oh yes wonderful....its all talk and talk dear boy is cheap.

^ A lot of Indians are very proud today. Thank God for the system. Thank God for the Constitution. Thank God for judges with courage of conviction (no pun intended). Let's please prove to the world we're not a nation of muslim burning hindus.

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This is the greatest thing in India, a Vibrant Democracy. I hope the culprits are punished.
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Victory, did the Indian PM Vajpayee not praise Modi as a leader after the genocide of Muslims in Gujrat?

Why did the mainly Hindu electorate give Modi an even bigger electoral majority after the genocide, and is there not a strong chance that Modi will in fact become the next Indian PM?

The question remains: Why can't Indian govt. round up the killers of Muslims in India?

Within hours of a bomb blast or an Indian being killed, the Indian leadership goes on the record as saying that they have evidence which proves ‘phoren’ hand is involved.

Now, why can’t the Indians use this level of efficiency and bring to trial the Hinduvta fanatics that burnt to death thousands of Muslims?

It’s all very well saying how wonderful your judicial system is, as they question the government’s motives. But how many people have been convicted of crimes committed against the Muslims in Gujarat?

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The question remains: Why can't Indian govt. round up the killers of Muslims in India?

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Cant you see people like Sawyer are proud of this achievement of killing muslims?

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Missionary killers convicted

The main accused in the murder of an Australian missionary, Graham Staines, and his two young sons has been found guilty in an Indian court.
Dara Singh and 12 others were convicted at a special court in the eastern state of Orissa. Another person was let off for lack of evidence.

The men stood trial on charges of burning Mr Staines alive, along with the sons - Philip, who was 10, and Timothy, eight.

The defendants, who pleaded not guilty, face the death penalty if convicted.

Sentence will be passed on 22 September.

Jeep torched

The Staines died when the jeep they were sleeping in was torched outside a church in the remote village of Manoharpur in Orissa in January 1999.