Basically, our target is not MARS. A known fact that every star has its age, our SUN is going to die, sooner or later. The estimated time frame altho is too long but, according to Dr. Stephen Hawking if menkind must survive, we must act now.
MARS is just a begining, to start with, to learn. Our aim is to find an alternative home after earth.
For detail sceintific reasoning, theories & what they r doing i will recomend two books by Prof. Dr. S. Hawkings. “A Brief History of Time” & “The Universe in a Nutshell”
Any Shakespearean actor who sells out to climb into a skintight Lycra jump suit and battle aliens with funny voices each week really has a bearing on it all.
I could come back with an equally heartfelt testimony saying the opposite from marvin the martian, I’m sure he’d encourage us Earth folk to go and explore.
Maybe some of you science oriented folks who are more knowledgeable in the area could post some of the significant advances to improve conditions here on earth that derive from the money we spend in space. It may very well be that cures and vaccines for disease will derive from the research going on in space. Likewise, breakthroughs in crop enhancement could help alleviate world hunger.
The tradeoffs seem to me to be like this: Is it better to spend $1 on earth to feed one hungry person or is it better to spend $1 on space research that might result in feeding 100 hungry people in the future.
The following is a blurb I picked up on some website talking in general terms of the things that we are doing in space.
• Materials Research–The unique microgravity and vac-uum properties of space may enable the development of new materials ranging from polymers to semiconductors.
• Biotechnology–Products derived from the microgravityenvironment may include protein crystals for structure-based drug design, new cell separation technologies, andmedical encapsulation methods.
• Agriculture–Agriculture products derived from themicrogravity environment may include new drugs fromplants, data leading to improved crops, and enhancedunderstanding of the plant fragrance formation.
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**I was asking do you think, years from now, there is a possibility of having human colonies on Moon and Mars?
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And which country gets to establish these colonies and control all future human "ownership" of land on Mars and the moon? No surprise in that answer, i guess.
And which country gets to establish these colonies and control all future human "ownership" of land on Mars and the moon? No surprise in that answer, i guess.
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I think that whichever countries dedicate the time, money, intellectual resources, lives, etc. to accomplish such a challenging endeavor ought to, in the interest of the poor and downtrodden, let the country of Ethiopa control the development of Mars and the Moon.
Give us a little break Nadia. Or will you consider the US (and whoever else joins them in a coalition of the willing in what will surely be a joint mission) illegal occupiers?
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^ haha, good one MV... smashing **anti-americanism* wherever it rears its ugly head -- even in outerspace.
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Now if we could only do something about Islamophobes and Muslim-haters.
as I've mentioned before I'm not afraid of Islam in any way however I often am disgusted by the bigotry and racist tendencies that are rife in the muslim world. I also have a handful of muslim friends, so I'm no hate monger either. I'm an ignorant, neo-con suporting american bent on world domination at the expense of muslims though so what do I know anyway, right?
^^Acknowledgement is the first step my firend. :D. You are on the right track.... I am sure there is no bigotry, hatred in US? Maybe you have forgotten US history way too soon. Now lets get back to Mars...shall we :)
you know it really is pretty disappointing that someone had to ruin a perfectly good discussion on the pros & cons of space exploration by spinning it into an anti-american rant. keep that crap in wa where it belongs
We can live there, but not now, it will take atleast 150 years
Peeple who are born here can go there and come back. But kids who will be born on mars wont be able to come abck to earth, because of the difference in gravity
Mars can be made like earth, (will take 100 years atleast) :halo: by stimulating the greenhouse effect (like pumping speciall chemicals into the Mars atmosphere) .
But to get back on topic, for several years I m hearing stories, that there is just not enough food on this planet for every one
and the population will only grow, so the humans will have to shift to different places. but I wonder if we will have enough for that
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But kids who will be born on mars wont be able to come abck to earth, because of the difference in gravity :)
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We'll have anti-super men who'll amaze us with tricks like not being able to lift a matchbox without getting out of breath, the circus' of the world will be overflowing with oohs and aahs I tells yah. Just that is worth all the effort.
Something I've always wondered, with all the fancy satellite technology and telescopes orbitting the Earth that are the size of buses, can we see Neil's footprints on the moon yet? Or are we still working on a moon-bot with wellies?
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you know it really is pretty disappointing that someone had to ruin a perfectly good discussion on the pros & cons of space exploration by spinning it into an anti-american rant. keep that crap in wa where it belongs
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Give me a freaking break. i wasn't the one who mentioned the sacred words "anti-American". Virtually everything to you guys - no matter how justified or rational an argument - becomes anti-American. Next thing you know, if i sneeze, i'll be called anti-American.
Anyways, i apologize for derailing the discussion. Sheesh.
The gravity delta between earth and mars is not that dramatic, the red planet is about half of earth's mass from what I remember. Bone density and muscle mass would be affected but I doubt that would create a life threatening situation for someone born there and visiting here. People would also grow taller though so we could potentially have a bunch of Yao Ming's.
Are you guys serious? That in 10-15 decades from now, men will be living on Mars???
Pardon my unscientific mind, but Earth is 75% water. Wouldn't it be cheaper to reclaim land in sea and build colonies here on Earth, rather then spending all that money and resources to make Mars habitable? Sheesh, just the fact that its 300 million miles away will get anyone homesick very quickly. Much rather have a new island right next to Mauritius or Bahamas, IMO.
We'll have anti-super men who'll amaze us with tricks like not being able to lift a matchbox without getting out of breath, the circus' of the world will be overflowing with oohs and aahs I tells yah. Just that is worth all the effort.
Something I've always wondered, with all the fancy satellite technology and telescopes orbitting the Earth that are the size of buses, can we see Neil's footprints on the moon yet? Or are we still working on a moon-bot with wellies?
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well most satellites are pretty small, like verry small :D and we cant see anny footprints :D cuz of moondust :) so all the tracks will be gone in just hours :D
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Are you guys serious? That in 10-15 decades from now, men will be living on Mars???
Pardon my unscientific mind, but Earth is 75% water. Wouldn't it be cheaper to reclaim land in sea and build colonies here on Earth, rather then spending all that money and resources to make Mars habitable? Sheesh, just the fact that its 300 million miles away will get anyone homesick very quickly. Much rather have a new island right next to Mauritius or Bahamas, IMO.
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hell no man :D peeple
more like atleast, 150-200 years.
the technolgie is just not ready for it, and niehter are humans, i mean who would like to travel for 7 years in a small box from Earth 2 Mars :D
well most satellites are pretty small, like verry small :D and we cant see anny footprints :D cuz of moondust :) so all the tracks will be gone in just hours :D
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Yep I guess all the 'moon wind' blew the tracks away, honestly I don't know why Nasa bother.
Hubble can image the birth of galaxies light years away but can't peak a little closer on something we can all see the naked eye!
The worst part of the whole Mars manned expedition is how long it will take...a year getting there..a year more there..because of the "window" and a year back.
