Why are Muslims against Evolution?!?

[Med911]

Re: Why are Muslims against Evolution?!?

@psyah

Let’s dissect this argument Med911

First of all the statement diwana posted is a statement uttered by a pro-evolutionist … your statement is actually refuting him not diwana.

Let’s consider books written on fossil record, but missing pages argument … Here the assumption is that a book on fossil record showing the gradual evolutionary process is possible, but yet incomplete. So this statement is attempting to confirm what may not be there.

Now let’s look at your statement … Jupiter - we know it is there we can see it. You have said that diwana is saying that since Jupiter’s center cannot be seen Jupiter itself does not exist. That is not true - diwana has acknowledged the fossil records exist … he is merely saying that the way the pages are arranged is as yet unknown and we are making guesses about whether the fossils even link up in the first place let alone how they are arranged. In which case the analogy should be we can see Jupiter, but we cannot necessarily conclude what the center is made of just by looking at its surface. That is the argument diwana is presenting here.

Your argument back processed on to evolution would read :

Since we can’t see evolution the fossil records don’t exist … that is absurd and that is not what diwana is saying …

Im not refuting the statement itself. Religion and science are two entirely different realms I understand that. My point is simply that religious people seem extremely disingenuous when they demand for such unreasonable amounts of evidence. That tells me that while they claim their relgion is separate from science, they are infact allowing one belief to prejudice the other. Coming from a pro Evolutionist, that statment means that neither belief in God, nor belief in evolution can be prejudiced by the other. Coming from religious person who doesnt believe in evolution, that statement sounds like an attempt to deflect.

Demanding unreasonable amounts of evidence to prove a Science, which never claimed to be THE truth is just that, unreasonable. All Scientists have to have reasonable amount of skepticism, that’s part of the scientific process. But its becomes unreasonable when even in the face of mounting evidence from multiple sources, you still refuse to believe, and ask for infinite amounts of evidence, even to the point of asking for evidence that could never be given. In this case, you demand to see a Monkey turn into a man.

Diwana is concluding that because we havent discovered all of the pages, that then is evidence to disprove Evolution, or bring it into question. But what he is ignoring is that there are multiple layers of evidence that compliment each other. Evolution is supported not just by the fossil record, but by the DNA record, by observation, by biology and anatomy etc. The science does not claim to be THE truth, science as you said is not religion, it has to be based on a preponderance of evidence to support a specific conclusion. The evidence shows that evolution is a reality, and there hasn’t been any real evidence to disprove that. The guess is not simply a guess in the sense that you close your eyes and draw a card. The guess is based on actual research. It s a reasonable and logical conclusion drawn from actual data.
I will grant you that Jupiter analogy is a bit of. Let me correct it. We cannot see the center of Jupiter, but we do have evidence to draw a reasonable conclusion as to what the center is made of, to high degree of accuracy. In the case of evolution, there is even more evidence to support its authenticity, and as most scientists conclude, to demand even more would at this pont be unreasonable and irrational.
In applying it to Diwana I suppose that would be as follows: Despite evidence tat tells us with a high degree of probability, what the center of Jupiter is made of, since we cannot see the center in actuality, it must not exist. (Diwana’s contention is that Evolution is NOT true because we cannot see it despite the evidence.)