Why are Jews Powerful?

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Dear friends,

Indeed Jews are powerful.

Ever wondered why is the world as such? I see the processes and the transitions going across the globe as much of an engineered ones. We all grew up with the mullahs' favorite phrase "yahood o nasara ki sazish". I was sick of listening to this, but after I read a little bit about it, it seems like I have entered daylight.

I believe that there are three kinds of people in this world. The Powerful ones, who engineer and control lives of the rest. Innocent ones, who really don't know what's going on around. They hardly make their both ends meet (despite not being poor) and care little what's going on around them. Finally, the Learned ones, who know what's going on (and are either willfully or forcefully part of it) or working against it in their limited capacities.

I explain each of them, rather quickly, as most of us incl. myself hate to read lengthy emails.

  1. The Powerful Ones: These are rich individuals, mostly Jews, some of them Christians and atheists but pro-Jews. They control world trade through dirty but seemingly fair tactics. They have control over world resources like oil, food, territories. They operate through governments, multinational corporations as well as NGOs. They create the "boiling frog syndrome" through which entire nations submit to them without knowing it. They control the minds through extensive investments in communication like media and education. They established organizations like league of nations(now called UN), the Bretton woods institutions (World bank, IMF) and so on. They use slogans like New World Order, Democracy, Free Trade, Globalization, Poverty Reduction, etc. Tools that they use include conflicts/ War as well as treaties/ agreements like the GATT, NAFTA, and now WTO. The later is the most deadliest of all weapons so far, which if implemented will suck the life out of developing world and install a supra government, which even states wouldn't be able to challenge. I don't know the number of these people but it should be more than few thousand, at the most.

  2. The Innocent Ones: They include you, me and everyone around us, irrespective of age, sex, color, nationality. They can range from fairly rich to extremely poor people. They are "the working class" and "the consuming class". So they provide both labor and market to the powerful ones. They work throughout their lives, to achieve false dreams and pseudo targets, created through powerful media of the powerful ones. They serve the powerful ones throughout their lives, generation after generation, but ultimately fail in the end (through death). This class is the one who lives in false paradigms- living false lifestyles (or trying to attain), false formal and informal education (formal like economics, falsified history, misleading social development theories, etc. and informal like concepts about terrorism, fundamentalism, the hoax of Islam, etc.), and false dreams of a perfect world. The powerful ones will protect this class to the level that it keeps providing them the desired labor (supply side) and consume their products (the demand/ market side).

  3. The Learned Ones: This is a minority group. It includes "the managers", through which the powerful ones impose their command and control mechanisms. It includes opinion leaders, political leaders, rulers, bankers, academicians, journalists, think-tanks, writers, intellectuals, Hollywood celebrities, noble laureates, and so on. These are either doing it willfully and getting a piece of cake as a reward, or they are forced to follow it (e.g. most of the rulers like ours, may be Saudis, even Europeans, etc.). Of this group i.e the learned ones, there's still a small monitory who is working against the powerful ones. They have little resources to spread their word and hence watch desperately as the powerful ones achieve their goals, one after another.

(Please note that I have named these classes for convenience as such. For example, the innocent ones may be written as the ignorant ones. Or if they change their role, they may be written as the powerful ones, as they are around 6 billion in number and can of course change the face of this planet. Also, these groups have no hard and fast boundaries, instead they have grey areas in between, to which most of us may belong).

Concluding, I ask/ should ask myself few questions. To which class of these I ascribe myself? Have I ever tried to change my class (positively or negatively)? Have I ever tried to come out myself and take out others, from these false paradigms that I am living in, or am I comfortable with living in my fools' world, cozy and comfortable? How am I gonna respond to Allah when He questions me about this self-imposed "innocence", on the day of resurrection?

Regards,

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I believe this topic/thread will fit well in World Affairs than in Religion.

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^^ I wish mods have closed (or merged with an older thread) this discussion. We have had so many of the anti-Semitic threads on this board. If some body wants to bash Jews, they can always search or restart the thread.

Jewish people are a minority in Europe and even tinier minority in the US. They have been attacked for their beliefs for such a long time that it is hard to imagine the total period where Jewish people weren't abused, killed, or imprisoned. Even now they are hanging with a tiny thread of tolerance in EU and US.

Even Israel by itself has population barely half of Karachi's. If anything they need protection from majority of the world.

Sure many of them are rich, but so do the immigrants in Pakistan, US, or EU. Wealth building is a slow, and hard process. Families who have a vision end up educating their kids, who go on to add to the family wealth.

Immigrants all over the world are harsh with their kids in an effort to succeed in the host country. Successful Urdu People of Pakistan (and there a lot of unsuccessful ones as well), worked their @$$ off to achieve a position in Pakistan. Then they made sure their kids work hard to become successful. This process when spread over many generations helps families to gain wealth and stature in the society.

Some of the Jews like any other immigrant group in EU and US like Asians, Bharatis, Pakistanis (not that good in UK), Arabs all, have worked hard for generations. Still there are Jews who belong to the lower rungs of society just like Arab cab drivers in Paris, UK-Pakistani aloo store owners of Luton, or Bharati 7-11 store owners of New Jersey.

Immigrants lose out big time if they don't work hard. That is same for Jews, Pakistanis, Bharatis, or Arabs.

So let us not delve into anti-Semitism just out of "hasad" (envy) of successful Jews.

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I fail to see any so called anti-semitism in this whole thread so far.

No one has 'bashed' jews for being a jew so far.

I say some people from Jewish religion (please avoid the colective word as 'jews' since people are unnecessary sensitive here) have given a lot to the world and their intrinsic ability to be sharp, aggressive and microscopic vision for any affair are important reasons why they are successful.

Many people from this religion are dirt poor and at the mercy of others from the community to help them. Not everyone in Israel is rich and they are just as human with strength and weaknesses as anyone else.

Obviously the opposition from many sides makes people to be united and we see this happening among muslims as well.

I have compared jews to muhajirs in another thread. Hard work and education can make anyone 'strong' AND 'powerful'. Jews are patriotic to US and so are muhajirs to Pakistan.

Everyone must learn from successful people from any background and make the world a peaceful and happy place.

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They are powerful cuz they create the money..

I'd be powerful too if I could create money out of thin air.. as much as I wanted.. and then loan it to World Governments.... then i could buy kirayay kay tuttoos who could troll the web crying "anti-semitism" every time someone tried to state the obvious about my scams.

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Well, if this is not the blind leading the blind. Does anybody here even know a Jew? Ever met one?

I grew up with a bunch of Jewish kids. Went to University with a bunch. The one thing they all had in common is that their parents drove them very hard. Their parents expectations were huge. There was a huge expectation of success, and a culture of achievement. A typical Jewish mother wants a son who is a doctor or a lawyer, or a successful business man. As a result, Jewish children grow up with expectations of personal success, and they are in a competitive culture where social status is always compared.

Is it any wonder that Jews are powerful? They expect to be powerful, they are raised to be powerful. Their self-worth is wholly tied up in their success in the world.

Their power is earned. No excuses, no blame.

How does the Muslim culture compare?

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^OG: Most "school going" kids that I went with (of course Muslims) also had same thing "huge expectations" from their parents. Its not just "Jewish" thing, we have this thing too, but does it really mean that it results in "huge success/powerful nation".... I doubt.

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yeah yeah OG.. we all know how ‘competitive’ they are.. next you’re gonna tell us they’re the only ones so artistic Hollywood didn’t meet a Jew they didnt’ like.. :rolleyes:

Nepotism to the hilt.. ‘competitive’ my ass..

well once again.. let them make the money and we’ll see..

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Dunno about your @$$, Jews sure have ruled Arab @$$ for good 60 years now.

Nepotism, or favorable treatment of fellow jewish people? may be!

Then everybody favors his "birathri". My fellow Urdu People make sure that Karachi jobs go to other Urdu People. Shias support other shias, Malik birathri supports other Malik, and Arayeen birathri supports guess what? other Arayeens.

So it is surely possible that Jewish people support others who are good to them. That means bunch of Bharatis and Pakistanis do get a lot of support form fellow Jewish seniors. Don't believe the Mullahtic mumbo jumbo. Jewish and Pakistanis get along just fine based on sort of mutual minority feelings in the West. But the same is true with Brahmins supporting Muslims.

However the bottom line is that you as an abroad Pakistani must have gotten a college degree in a good field.

Based on your raves and rants, seems like 7-11 is the way to go and you may not find many Jewish in the 7-11 management chain. So no Jewish help for you. Not that they hate you, they are not managing 7-11. That's all.


Oh Kaptaan ji, why be so "doubtful". Did you try getting a degree instead of working in an aloo store? There are a lot of opportunities in the West. Just try working hard for them. Kapeesh!

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when you pull those rotten tomatoes/potatoes out of your behind you’ll definitely smell a fresh air :k: until then let me enjoy fruits of my degree in The West :dhimpak:

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I agree. Its not just the jewish thingy. Great expectations from parents are found in many cultures, countrymen and religions.

If a jewish cannot achieve 'personal' success, the person is 'expected' to mary someone who has that! Again not just a 'jewish' expectation.

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No need to bash muslim culture..minority even among muslims in general and muslim countries is successful.

So, by logic...people who feel threatened by others specially when they belong to minorities have to support each others..........or struggle hard.

Many muslim countires which are cited for bashing reasons do not feel threatened since thay have oil power and wealth..so why work hard when just being lazy get anything they want!

Muslims gave sencutary and freedome to christians and jews when they ruled majority of the world and developed a great civilization which was and is still envied by educated and serious minded people. One of the the safest and happiest time jews had in their history was when they were rules in europe and specifically in Spain by muslims...if you know jews..please ask one. But they had the worst time in their history under Germans..the christians who we call Nazis.

They (muslims) brought the best possible of that time and others are bringing the best possble in present time..that's all.

So its not about being muslim or jew comparison.

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Exactly

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Jews are hard working people.
They want to educate their kids, just like muslim minorties living in the West.

And they are hated for their success

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^ :hehe: they are hated for their success because they are hardworking? :hehe: again. Think again and come again. There is so much more beyond this simple jealousy. Christians are hardworking and powerful, they aren’t as much “hated”, why? Do you really need a hint? I hope not.

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so you are conforming to their typical sterotypical views?

Captain, from all the people who are debating me here, I hoped that you would present a mature viewpoint

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^ merc, simply saying "hard working" is not enough to justify their being "powerful", by saying that you are suggesting rest of the world is not as hard working and ambitious, that would be a racist remark innit, no?

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No not really.

Look at Asians, Chinese, most of them are really smart

I go to university in Canada, most of the top students in my class are Asians

Its nothing to do with their genes

Its just they have a strong work ethic

Or another example

Germans being very efficent

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^ so why aren't Germans, Asians as powerful?