I use to go to jumah, after they said second prayer. So I have to listen anty shia/ahmidy/christian/deobandy/wahabi bul****. I didn't go to any other prayes because I was lazy + I clearly remember that "you should not say prayer behind an imam you disagree to"
Those morons have access to loud speakers, where they use to prove how shia were kafir and how ahmdies should be confronted. Yes I did not want stand behind such a guy. Not in this life time.
I mean even they bent over guy like bhutto and do him in the ..
I understand your dismay and it is a diff topic and a good topic maybe we should even split or copy this and have a diff thread,
have you ever thought why it is the way it is?
its us bro...all of us..we did nto speak up, we were not involved in our masajid, i mean especially in pakistan really..seriously...many people just go to this place on Jummahs and thats it, not that everyone here goes for all prayers..actually I think more ppl go to their local masjid regularly than we do in the west but here we get involved due to community reasons, over there even fi you are going several times a day, many ppl are just not involved enough.
so where do the imams/khateebs come from, where are they getting their training from, who hires them, what is teh criteria that is used to hire them, how are they evaluated, who evaluates them, who do you complain to.. most ppl dont even know that.
now lets go to the topic of the imam and khatibs themselves, who are they? what kid in our community grows up saying he wants to be an imam..none that I know..and this is coming from a family where my maternal side is very religious and i have cousins in theri teens who are hafiz..but its just not seen as a real career choice
so it has to be a rare individual who could have done anything but decided to pursue this path, many are those who had few other options, or aptitude for other things, some are from very poor backgrounds and went thru rans of madrassa to become imams.
some of the institutions in the country are very good for religious education, some are not, some try to expose students to other subjects, others dont, those who expose the students to other subjects, some do it thru their own lens, some do it fairly unbiased way.
so u have a mixed bag of ppl getting in these roles, and when we are not engaged and in some rural areas where these guys get this sort of power..we are in for a bad situation.
but anywas the questions I wrote above, i really dont know the answers to those myself..by the time I started thinking about them I had moved back from pakistan..