Why a hindu should become muslim:
1. dont have to worship piece of rock(i.e. making excuses to bow down to a rock)
2. don't treat women badly (i.e don't have to burn wife to death)
3. don't have to think they are superior to everyone else and divde society(i.e. caste system)
4. don't have to waste time justifying their superstitions(i.e. hindus wasting their life justifying astrology or worship of false demon gods)
5. don't have to embrace the eternal hellfires of gehenna
I know that Allah(SWT) has sealed the hearts of most hindus, and therefore they will taste the eternal hellfires of gehenna, but I try to help them.
I know that Allah(SWT) has sealed the hearts of most hindus, and therefore they will taste the eternal hellfires of gehenna, but I try to help them.
1. dont have to worship piece of rock(i.e. making excuses to bow down to a rock)
Hiduism accomodates all, worship rock, not worship rock, not worship at all. As long as you do right Karma you are fine.
So there is more flexibility. So no need for Hindus to convert to Islaam.
2. don't treat women badly (i.e don't have to burn wife to death)
Hindus give ultimate respect to women. Country is Bharat Mata (feminine),
Earth is Dharti Maa (feminine), Durga maa (goddess of Power), Laxmi (Goddess of Wealth), Saraswati (Goddess of Knowledge), there are female saints and warriors.
I do not say much about Islaam and women. You can read a lot on the web. Even on the forum you can read how Mohammad (your prophet) treated women, then what can be expected of his followers.
So no need for Hindus to convert to Islaam.
3. don't have to think they are superior to everyone else and divde society(i.e. caste system)
This has been discussed in detail in other threads and has been explained. No more commnets, except that Shia, Sunni, Ahamadi etc... get the point.
So no need for Hindus to convert to Islaam.
4. don't have to waste time justifying their superstitions(i.e. hindus wasting their life justifying astrology or worship of false demon gods)
Hindu books do not teach superstition.
Have you seen the Jinn. Oh ya it is invisible.
So no need for Hindus to convert to Islaam.
5. don't have to embrace the eternal hellfires of gehenna
Talk of superstition. As I said before, I would like to go to a heaven to meet God and not to have sex with 10-20 (forgot the number) voluptuous big eyed beautiful virgins. Thank you very much.
So no need for Hindus to convert to Islaam.
With all due respect, I am sick and tired of the matter of the number of wives our beloved Prophet (pbuh) had as being a point of discussion. As far as I am concerned the times were different. In Islam if any man wishes to have more than one wife then he must be able to treat each one in an equal manner. **It is not a privilege to abuse which is unfortunately done so today. **The Prophet (pbuh) married many times to save these girls and women from a life of crime and prostitution because their family heads were no longer alive or were unable to provide for their families for whatever reason.
As far as the Hindu religion is concerend, I do not know enough about it to say anything apart from what is in the Media or portrayed by Bollywood movies and hence reserve the right not to say anything for it. However, it is a shame that everyone has taken the portrayl of my truly beloved religion in the Media and by those who say they are acting in the name of Islam. If you really want a discussion on Islam, then don't be derrogatory and first read the Holy Book. As far as pointing things out that are WRONG in Islam, I'm afraid I would have an issue as being a Muslim, I accept every word in the Holy Qur'an without question. Having said this, despite having an issue, I would welcome a civilized discussion without hurling any insults for any religion whatsoever. Religion is a passionate subject for everyone.
As for the debate about why hindus should become Muslims, all I will say is that despite everything going on in the world, Islam is MaashaAllah, the fastest growing religion in the west and this is because many are seeing the light and truly choosing to understand the religion for what it is and not for what is being shown in the Media or by the Western leaders. People in the west are from all walks of life and some could even be hindus - I have no proof of this but ths could easily be true.
If a muslim chooses to convert to another path I support their free will as long as they do not take up arms to kill, rampaage, plunder and rape .
As for condeming me for not understanding I thank you for a such high compliment as it obviously means I am not twisted mentality by religious dogma and do not kill for Allah. :) :) :) I guess its clear my heart is better than yours and my mind more enlightened than yours. And I say this with great deal of modesty and humility for my parents ensured i should never shun the mentally challenged or the words of one is who intellectually vacuos such as yourself . As long as I and many of my friends like myself express perhaps one like you may just become a better human of this planet and tolerant in wisdom and action.
I am very upset about the level of ignorance there is about Islam in this particular thread. Tolerance is part of Islam and if you don't know this then stop watching the Media and listening to your present leaders and carry out some research into this topic before making such insulting statements. I think history shows that war etc, have not solely existed in Islam. What about the Crusade?
Sure, in Saudi Arabia churches cannot be built because **Islam is the final religion as far as we Muslims are concerned. **As far as the west is concerned, yes they do allow masjids to be built etc, but then there is a lot of hyprocrisy about Muslims being given these rights. As part of our religion, the call to prayer must be heard by all Muslims, but the masjids cannot have external systems to allow this to happen so others aren't disturbed. At least in Saudi Arabia, when those who are non- Muslims live there know exactly what is expected of them and what will and will not be acceptable and are under no illusions whatsoever.
Have you ever lived in Saudi Arabia? I suspect not becuase otherwise you would know that those westerners who have lived there for any length of time really know the country, the people, and they have some understanding of the religion do not complain. In fact when they go back to their respective countries they feel something important is missing from their lives and some revert to Islam and others find ways of returning to Saudi Arabia. I speak from experience as I not only went to the American School there being a Muslim but also know weterners like this. No doubt you are referring to a few cases that were picked up by the MEDIA for their aboslute juicyness abut the hardships they faced in Suadi Arabia when they were restricted from doing certain things. If you know that things are not allowd in certain countries by LAW you must respect it no matter where in the world you are. If you feel you are unable to abide by those laws as an expatriot, then either find another country where you can live in accordance of the laws or return to your homeland.
As far killing in the name of Allah, the west kills innocent people in the name of OIL! The west threw out the Jews from Europe into the Middle East because they didn't want to nurture this CANCER as they saw it. What was WWII all about? On the face of it, it was to stop Hitler, but really it was all about saving and extraditing the Jews from Europe in bulk. Read some history books and you'll surely come across this.
I am a Westerner myself but was privielged and blessed to be born a Muslim. MaashaAllah!
you are sick and tired after just 4 posts?....
sorry... that was not the point of discussion over here. The points of discussion was difference between kalki and muhammad. and number of wives of muhammad and kalki was one among those points
Just because I have 4 posts or however many posts does not mean that I cannot say when I am sick and tired of a certain issue being brought up even when it is not really relevant and is only a minor detail in my opinion. I think these forums are open to anyone to reply to and have no requirements of the number of posts to be made before your voice is heard or listened to. I do not wish to get into a slanging match. I said what I wanted to say - END OF STORY.
Chill guys respect each others religion, I dont know why there is a urge to prove once point .
No urge to proove ones point - just a point to bring clarity to people's views on perhaps I know a bit more about than they do. :) But even if we were trying to proove our own points, healthy discussion is always very useful!
Part II of this thread or whatever 'Convince Tommygun to become a Muslim'
is missing or deleted.I Guess my muslim friends accepted the defeat.And I think this thread will also be deleted soon.Nice strategy when you cannot win by reasons just use force.