who is he ???

[ria9]

@Fbi786

thread opener ..I think to make this world a better place .. you should remove the pics and get this thread deleted , why? cos there will be more negative replies than possitive .. and Its better to keep the negative hidden ..rahter than exposed to those who are not fond of such actions.

that would be a good thing to do…waisay bhee the pics aren’t even real, and I know this through an authentic source

[InToXiCaTeD]

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no need to remove pics or delete the thread.

I am sure there are some Agha Khanis on this site. Let's learn something .......... what they have to say about this. If they say this practice doesn't belong to them or the pics are fake etc. then may be you can remove/delete.

[Fbi786]

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^^ so you want a full on deabte and looking for a clash

[Faris_Udeen]

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Besides i'm sure thers more important things in this world to clash over than the Aga Khanis.

[InToXiCaTeD]

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@Fbi786

^^ so you want a full on deabte and looking for a clash

I want to learn something out of it … like do they really practice this? and why?

unlike you people who mocked them and now want this thread closed.

and this forum is for discussion … not you preaching and everyone else listening. in your mosque may be, not here.

[Sannan]

@Fbi786

Thank you.
Back to Topic at hand ..

thread opener ..I think to make this world a better place .. you should remove the pics and get this thread deleted , why? cos there will be more negative replies than possitive .. and Its better to keep the negative hidden ..rahter than exposed to those who are not fond of such actions.

I think that baychara don’t know the outcomes of this thread …

[Fbi786]

@InToXiCaTeD

I want to learn something out of it … like do they really practice this? and why?

unlike you people who mocked them and now want this thread closed.

and this forum is for discussion … not you preaching and everyone else listening. in your mosque may be, not here.

who on earth are you … so you do not go to a mosque or have a mosque, you do not have a faith ??

if no .. then your clearly making a path for a fight ..

[aaho]

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=] I dont know what kind of Islam is this if you think there are different kinds of Islam.

[Faris_Udeen]

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I can see mr Intoxicateds point that we learn about Aga Khani's but to do so we have only two ways i can see as easy first wait for Aga khanis to show up and then the inevitable clash.

Or more sensibly if anyone is really interested by them then go look for some or type it online which is an even more prudent method... why are we having a thread purley to bash one another.... have we no shortage of these threads?

And if thats the case then it should be moved to religous forums.

[Fbi786]

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This is where the images come from http://www.friendskorner.com/forum/f257/images-agha-khani-payshwaaa-92744/

and some of the beliefs of Agha Khani .are

1. The Ismailis (followers of the Aga Khan) all professedly believe that the Qur’an was time bound and was not meant to be a Universal message for all times. They believe that their spiritual leader, Karim Aga Khan, is the “walking - talking Qur’an” and his “religious pronouncements”, whatever they may be, are the “guidance” for the present times. The fundamental article of faith that there will not be any NEW revelations or “wahy” after the Qur’an, is being completely violated by the Ismailis.

2. The Aga Khan has officially Declared himself, before his followers, as the “Mazhar of Allah on earth”. The word “mazhar” means “copy” or “manifest”. Consequently, these Ismailis who call themselves Muslims do “sujood” before him. So even the primary axiomatic principle of Tawheed is being fundamentally and formally violated by them.

3. The Ismailis are not instructed to offer the Islamic Salaah, observe Saum or perform Hajj. They have replaced Salaah with certain shirk-infested Dua’as (thrice a day). They are told that their Hajj is a personal “Glimpse” (Deedaar) of Karim Aga Khan.

4. The Aga Khan and his appointees ‘forgive the sins’ of the followers on regular basis. Ismailis are misled into believing that they will not be questioned on the Day of Judgment for the sins that are already forgiven in their Jamatkhanas (community centers). Forgiving of sins is the exclusive prerogative and privilege of Allah (swt) alone. Qur’an 3:135.

5. Against this backdrop, most of the poor (spiritually poor) Ismailis who are not introduced to al-Furqan are confused and misguided. Hence, Ismailis are very easy prey to missionary efforts by various Christian groups and Baha’is. I have known a couple of young ex-Ismailis who are today preaching “Pauline Christianity” to Ismailis as evangelical missionaries.

6. Karim Aga Khan’s own daughter Zahra having married a practising Christian has opened the gates for young Ismailis girls to follow the footsteps of a family member of their beloved Imam-e-Zaman. The parents of the Ismaili girls who wish to marry outside of Islam have no recourse but to let them go.

7. The Aga Khan has made Halaal for the Ismailis that which Allah has made Haraam for the humans. Taking of interest (usury) is not forbidden by the religious instruction classes run by the “Tariqaah” board of the Ismailis. As a matter of fact, the much publicized “Venture Capital” program (details on the website of FORBES Magazine - search under “Aga Khan”), of loaning funds on interest by the AKFED (Aga Khan Fund & Economic Development), has been a great success. Similar entrepreneurial projects are now being actively promoted and introduced to poor Muslims of Tajikistan and neighboring areas.

8. The Muslim Ummaah and the various Muslim leaders are not fully aware of these Un-Islamic acts and beliefs of this community of less than two million members, who claim to be the Ismaili Muslims. Surprisingly, their leader Aga Khan claims himself to be a spiritual leader of 15 million Muslims and a Direct Descendant of Prophet Muhammad (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam).

9. Earlier, one did not have authentic books on Ismailism, but it is not so anymore. There are two authentic books as well as one comprehensive web site exposing the inner practices of the Ismailis and the Proclamations (Farmans) of the Aga Khans. Hence, now you have no “hujjah” argument or excuse left before Allah (swt) for not taking up the task of inviting the misguided “Ismaili Muslims” towards the Deen of Allah (swt) and not safeguarding them from committing unpardonable sin of Shirk.

10. The Aga Khan in collaboration with so many Western powers and aid, has set up the world-wide Aga Khan Development Network (AKDN) which runs several institutions and service companies both in the profit and not for profit sectors. This network is very actively operating in Pakistan, India, Tanzania, Uganda, Kenya and Bangladesh, and has now started concentrating its efforts in Tajikistan and the neighbouring areas where there is a concentration of Muslims who have not known or openly practised Islam for the decades. By taking up economical, social, educational and rural development efforts through NGOs (Non-Govt. Organizations) within the AKDN, the Ismailis and the Aga Khan have gained wide acceptance amongst these countries and masses. Hence this urgent appeal.

[Fbi786]

I can see mr Intoxicateds point that we learn about Aga Khani's but to do so we have only two ways i can see as easy first wait for Aga khanis to show up and then the inevitable clash.

Or more sensibly if anyone is really interested by them then go look for some or type it online which is an even more prudent method... why are we having a thread purley to bash one another.... have we no shortage of these threads?

And if thats the case then it should be moved to religous forums.

if ppl wana insist then let it be ..

and We Wont hide from upholding the truth ..so in my above post i did some out line of some of their beleifs

[InToXiCaTeD]

@Fbi786

who on earth are you … so you do not go to a mosque or have a mosque, you do not have a faith ??

if no .. then your clearly making a path for a fight ..

making a path for a fight?

I bet you don’t want that.

Jummairaat (thursdays) ki free rotiyan and halwa enjoy karo yaar and prepare for the next sermon. promise no one would say a word and will silently listen to your wise words, as always. :k:

[Faris_Udeen]

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^ Thanks for that staunch defense of the faith brother FBI786... you at least know what your talking about.

I know this about the Isamilis.

That while centuries ago we were the victims of the Crusades these same Ismaelis killed fellow muslims with thier Assasin cult... something which the English language can thank is the word Assasin comes from these very traitors.

Further more thier obvious violations of Islamic teaching mark them out as enemies of Islam and they are responsible for not just assasinating many Muslims but also high ranking Muslims have been thier victims.

For all the evil of my own cursed forebears in thier time before Islam at least they drove these Assasins far into the mountians and almost wiped out thier cult.

It is a shame not all were wiped out.

[Sannan]

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its Sutta Interval brothers :cobra:
… u all are Off Topic
let me call Thread opener and advise him let us know the real reason of opening this thread

[Faris_Udeen]

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Waah sutta interval

:cobra:

[Sannan]

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& if u like

[punjabi_kuri_1]

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[Sannan]

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Phataan yah lo

[punjabi_kuri_1]

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thankooo sanooo tum yeh lo:chai:

[Sannan]

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naheen hum aaj Lassi kay mood mein hain …
2day FBI & Faris nay bari pur maghaz qisam key fugtagu key hay jiss par hum unhain hawana kay cigar ka box inaam mein daitay hain aur hamary aik aur sathi ko 4 jug lassi kay