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He is setting new examples for coming chiefs Family business You can make more without coming in power
What can be done when his teacher (Commander in Chief of Armed Forces) is great Zardari.
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I dont blame musharraf for this mess i think he didnt had a choice.
Everyone always have a choice.
Just compare pre 911 era of mushi with all of kiyani's career and it is still clear as day who is comparatively better.
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Sources for turkey's 50 billion demand
11.3 billion miltary aid
And 6.4 billion economic aid was given since 02 -10
And we lost 60 billion ...and you are qouting zordari ?are u sure ?
Now are you angry that musharraf sold you or u angry because he sold u in cheap?
What did kayani achieved since 2007 except extentions for being coperative with the government ?
They came and took osama and for next one week kayani dont know what to say?
They come kill ur soldiers what do u do? Losing game in afghanistan. No aggressive stand against any one.
What kind of professionalism is that that u cant even defend ur possition.
People see us as terrorists. was it like this before 2007.
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Everyone always have a choice.
Just compare pre 911 era of mushi with all of kiyani's career and it is still clear as day who is comparatively better.
And how are u going to do that?
Mushi was much better at strategic relations than kayani..
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Kayani has still continued the same policy as Mush, just from behind the scene. There is no 'real difference.
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Fits like a tee to Zulfikar Bhutto. He was a 'general' without a wardi. Pakistan's first and only civilian chief martial law administrator. Plus, he invented more ways to get rid of political opponents than any one else. He tried to remain in power at all costs.....squashed the public verdict in 1970, and defrauded the public in 1977.
Load of sh!te crape lies propogated by haami jaamat-e-Islami.
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Why generals are discussed in Pakistani politics forum? Are you considering them politicians rather than professionals?
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And how are u going to do that? Mushi was much better at strategic relations than kayani..
Really?
Mushi did biggest strategic blunder of history since 1971. He got pakistan in to a war which was not only unwinnable but also pakistan was aggressor in it. Makes you wonder what kind of training they give to generals in pak.
That resulted in to full fledged response by India and he had to ask NS to ask america to stop india. to cover his shame he overthrew NS's govt. And during his own tenure he fed taliban which kiyani is fighting now, not only he protected mullah omer but also osama. And all that was before 911.
Had NS been a democratic PM of pakistan during 911 then there would have been no drones or such bad militancy in pak.
A traitor who sold his country, broke the vows to follow the leader of the country and a terrorism spreader is not better than kiyai who is just happy to get an extension.
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I dont blame musharraf for this mess i think he didnt had a choice.
**He had a choice. After dislodging N$'s government he should have conducted general elections in 60 days and packed home in barracks. But he was bloody corrupt stupid general, made a U-turn and showed his behind to Sam which is trade mark of all the generals sicnce partition, and sold the country in peanuts. He should be hanged what he did to Pakistan in 10 years.
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So musharraf was pro alqaida? 
reason army is against ns is kargil war.
NS is a Coward .he was not even willing to test nuclear .
How was economy in 1999 ?
Musharraf always thought out of box and thats wat leaders do.
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**He had a choice. After dislodging N$'s government he should have conducted general elections in 60 days and packed home in barracks. But he was bloody corrupt stupid general, made a U-turn and showed his behind to Sam which is trade mark of all the generals sicnce partition, and sold the country in peanuts. He should be hanged what he did to Pakistan in 10 years.
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Who could have won in those elections?
What about elections of 2007 ? U should b happy with that
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Why he has run away from Pakistan? That coward has no heart to go to jail what he did out of stupid box.
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Why he has run away from Pakistan? That coward has no heart to go to jail what he did out of stupid box.
Why should he go jail for something he didnt comit?
Did he kill bb ?
Why did Ns begged his pardon to fly to jeddah?
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i think mush atleast had some vision for pakistan...
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Load of sh!te crape lies propogated by haami jaamat-e-Islami.
With a limited and filthy vocabulary, you never have any reasonable response to anything other than such rubbish.
1970 elections were won by Awami League, fair and square, which ZAB refused to acknowledge, and connived with Yahya to rob the public of their elected reps. Fact.
He was the only disgraceful civilian face in Pakistan to have imposed martial law. Fact.
He got quite a few opponents murdered, including an attempt on Ahmed Kasuri, as a result of which, his father Nawab Kasuri was killed. Fact.
His hunger for complete control led him to appoint Zia as the COAS. Fact.
He politcized the ISI in order to subjugate opponents. Fact.
He manufactured victory in the 1977 polls, a fact which has been admitted by PPP goons on TV, most recent being Kaira. Fact.
And finally, he was an admitted drunk, gambler and gangster. He admitted to drinking frequently....He owned a huge casino on sea view in Clifton. Fact.
If you can refute anything with facts, you are more than welcome.
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There was barely any al quaida before 911. Mush protecte their and taliban’s leaders. Wrong, reason mush was against NS was to save his own skin. NS didnt send army to die in kargil, mushi did.
I hope you know that it is not mush’s job to be a leader. He was a govt employee and should have acted like one. If you make heros out of people like him then you dont understand the basic meaning of democracy and you are fit to live under saddam, gaddafi, mushi and likes.
Mush should be tried for war crimes. He sold people and pocketed the money. Also please ask you baba e bum about mushi. he will give you better insight.
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There was barely any al quaida before 911. Mush protecte their and taliban's leaders. Wrong, reason mush was against NS was to save his own skin. NS didnt send army to die in kargil, mushi did.
I hope you know that it is not mush's job to be a leader. He was a govt employee and should have acted like one. If you make heros out of people like him then you dont understand the basic meaning of democracy and you are fit to live under saddam, gaddafi, mushi and likes.
Mush should be tried for war crimes. He sold people and pocketed the money. Also please ask you baba e bum about mushi. he will give you better insight.
I pray to god that you live under the same democracy as we livin in.
If ns was that good why people celebrated when mush took over.
Army comes only when public want them to mush was 70 percent popular till 2006 .dont u see democracy in it?
Democracy is what majority says not what bunch of corrupt politician says.
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Musharraf
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