What was the family relationship between Hazrat Umar and Hazrat ali ?

[Ibn_Sadique]

Re: What was the family relationship between Hazrat Umar and Hazrat ali ?

@aqeel123

1. Hafsa was wife of Prophet s.a.w hence mother of Bibi Fatima s.a ?
2. If so Umar was grandfather of Bibi Fatima s.a ?
3. Daughter of ALI a.s was daughter of Bibi Fatima s.a and Bibi Fatima was grand daughter of Umar ?
4. Umar married his great grand daughter ?
   If all of above r true then is marrying ur grand daughter or great grand daughter allowed in islam ?

What sort of logic is that??? It really makes no sense at all.

Using same flawed logic of yours one can say the following:

1)Hz. Ali (ra) is cousin brother of the Prophet (saw) and the Prophet (saw) paired Hz. Ali (ra) as his own brother in Madinah.
2)So technically, Hz. Ali (ra) is uncle of Hz. Fatimah (ra). You have to agree to this.
3)Now applying your flawed logic – Did Hz. Fatimah (ra) marry her own Uncle???

Your flawed logic only showed your desperation and insecurity against the facts to prove them wrong by any means.

@Jafri

Hey, if it’s written down, must be sahih :DAsad al Ghaybah Volume 5 page 367:

“Abu Umar narrates on the authority of Zubayr Bakri, 'Umar asked for the hand of Ali’s daughter, who replied that she was too young. 'Umar asked twice more. 'Ali said ‘I shall send the girl to you, if you like her than say ‘I accept’’. 'Ali then sent the girl with a cloth and told her to say [to 'Umar] ‘This is the scarf that I was talking about’. She conveyed these words to 'Umar, who said ‘Tell your father that I accept’. Umar then touched the girl’s calf. She exclaimed ‘You have done this to me? If it hadn’t been for the fact that you are Khalifa of the Muslims I would have broken your nose’. The girl went home and repeated the episode to her father, stating ‘You sent me to a foul man’, with that 'Ali said ‘He is your husband’.”

By quoting the above hadith from Shia sources (Asad al Ghaybah) you have inadvertently and carelessly insulted Hz. Ali (ra) – Shame on you!!!

Do you think that Hz. Ali (ra) will send his daughter (mind you this daughter was from Hz. Fatimah (ra)) to Hz Umar (ra) in such a manner!!! This is a real insult to Hz. Ali (ra).

And this Shia hadith which you deem to be Sahih Clearly has Hz. Ali (ra) acknowledging that Hz. Umar (ra) is the husband of his beloved daughter Umm Kulthum (ra)!!!

The link below has dealt with this issue comprehensively with all the references form all the sources.

“A Comprehensive Rebuttal of Answering-Ansar’s Article on Umm Kulthoom’s Nikah”

http://www.ahlelbayt.com/articles/sahabah/rebuttal