Re: What was the family relationship between Hazrat Umar and Hazrat ali ?
^we all know you have a hard time dealing with it. some say it was forced on ali ra - ie umar ra was threatening him and ali ra decided it was safer to marry her to him, others say it never happend and the last group say it was abu bakr ra’s daughter after ali ra married asma ra
shia scholars:
Hameed bin Ziad from Ibn Sama’ah, from Muhamad bin Ziad from Abdullah bin Sinan and Muawiyah bin Ammar from Abu Abdullah PBUH: I asked him about the woman whose husband is died, Does she spend her iddat Period in her house or wherever she wants? Imam replied: Wherever She wants, For Ali PBUH when Umar had died he came to his house and took umm Kalthoum to his house.
Al Allamah Majlisi says: Muwathaq ( meaning “reliable” or Sahih but contradicts what they believe) 21/197.
Al Allamah Bahbudi Says: SAHIH, 3/121.
2nd narration:
مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يَحْيَى وَ غَيْرُهُ عَنْ أَحْمَدَ بْنِ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ عِيسَى عَنِ الْحُسَيْنِ بْنِ سَعِيدٍ عَنِ النَّضْرِ بْنِ سُوَيْدٍ عَنْ هِشَامِ بْنِ سَالِمٍ عَنْ سُلَيْمَانَ بْنِ خَالِدٍ قَالَ سَأَلْتُ أَبَا عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ( عليه السلام ) عَنِ امْرَأَةٍ تُوُفِّيَ زَوْجُهَا أَيْنَ تَعْتَدُّ فِي بَيْتِ زَوْجِهَا تَعْتَدُّ أَوْ حَيْثُ شَاءَتْ قَالَ بَلَى حَيْثُ شَاءَتْ ثُمَّ قَالَ إِنَّ عَلِيّاً (عليه السلام ) لَمَّا مَاتَ عُمَرُ أَتَى أُمَّ كُلْثُومٍ فَأَخَذَ بِيَدِهَا فَانْطَلَقَ بِهَا إِلَى بَيْتِهِ.
يقول المجلسي صحيح21/199
البهبودي صحيح3/122)
Muhammad bin Yahya and others from ahmad bin muhammad bin Isa from Al Hussein Bin Sa’eed from Al Nadir bin Suwayd from hisham bin muslim from suleiman bin Khaled that he said: I asked Abu abdullah PBUH about a woman whose husband had died does she spend her Iddat period in the home of her husband or wherever she pleases? Imam Replied: Yes wherever She wants then he said Because Ali PBUH after umar had died he came and took umm Kalthoum back to his house.
Al Allamah al Majlisi says: SAHIH 21/199
Al Allamah al Bahbudi says: SAHIH 3/122.
Refer: http://gadir.free.fr/Ar/Ehlibeyt/kut…l_Ukul/021.htm
Now Two Fatwas by two shia alims: one By Sistani and another By Al Khoe’i :
By Al khoe’i:
السؤال:
هل صحيح أن الخليفة الثاني قد تزوج من بنت الامام علي عليه السلام ؟
الفتوى:
هكذا ورد في التاريخ والروايات .
Question :
Is it true that the second Khalif married the daughter of Imam Ali aleyhi salam ?
Answer :
It’s reported like that in history and narrations
how many of ali ra’s children were named umar?
thanks for the source, but could u make it a little more confusing coz first ur source is in arabic and its not my first second or third language.
second you have posted two narrations and two fatwa’s however only one link… I tried tranlsting that page and searched for word “ALI” couldnt find anything related to ur post.
Oh so u searched online and pasted Umm kalthoum bint Ali(ra) married to umar bin khattab(ra) | Giving Dawah to Shia
next time u provide a source… Please mention name of book… author chapter and page. Not search it and copy paste the first result u get.