PS… it’s ridiculous. A nickname is just a nickname, it has no basis in the person’s character or imaan. Just becoz someones nickname is sharaabi doesn’t make them a drinker… same as ur not really a princess however much ud like to think so, Angel eyes doesn’t have “Angel eyes” … there’s a guy named fartguru on here, doesnt mean he goes around farting, etc etc…What’s wrong is wrong… he jus pointed out astrology to be haram and u bacchay jump on him, and that’s just stupid. How you can say something that’s definitely wrong to be debatable is beyond me… anyway thas it… i’m done arguing abt this crap
I am glad your done arguing because i wasn't going to waste my time on arguing back to your stupid nonsense.. and yea Princess is my nick name at home, family n friends they all call me that because I act that way and you only get a nickname from what you do or what you enjoy or how you feel. I am not debating on should we criticize him on his nick name we shouldnt but should he criticize me on astrology being haraam he shouldnt, only because as someone stated before noone should state anything to anyone.. if you have a problem with something or a thread just stay out of it. and with a nick like sharaabi you should be the last person to explain haraam or not.
Thank you ImranQ.. lol.. sorry yaar.. I just found that on my msn main screen didn’t know it would be this big. lol.. and as far as the fight is concerned Angel Eyes.. leave it.. it’s not worth your time or energy. lol.. thanks tho..
Where was I when all this debating was happening?
All of this only because I found out what a scorpio is lol
And I think LydiaQureshi is Impulse undercover hehe
no actually me and her had a real good conversation, we ended it on a good note. no ill feelings
and her very next post had the following:
Ok..lemme make one thing clear. Princess may be your nickname and people may be calling you a princess, even tho you seem nothing like one, but Sharaabi aint my nickname…its a mere Gupshup UserName. Thats it, period. Judging my character on a username? thats just lame.
Secondly, this is an online forum, and i have every right to post my view points, especially when they are in the benefit of the people. I would not have made the comments had you and the rest of the people who were posting, been non muslims. I would have least cared. But when muslims believe and take part in an act that has been declared outright haraam and forbidden, than yeaa it does become my problem, because I know what you’r doing is wrong, and as Muslims we are commanded to forbid evil.
u know this is what i was trying to say all along…instead ppl are trying to argue with me:rolleyes:
this topic came up cuz of the simple comment sharaabi made about this thread being haram…or astrology being haraam.. all i said was that he shouldnt be here if he thinks this thread is haram cuz he shouldnt be chatting…this is how the whole argument came about.
My entire point of this argument was to simply say that not everyone is perfect…u can accuse someone for doing something wrong but u urself arent perfect either.
(btw this post wasnt towards u only just towards everyone)
Hm and where do you get the idea that chatting is haram?
I believe men and women are allowed to talk to each other for marriage, or to inform each other about Islam. Of course there is the pardah, physical, mental and emotional, but I think MSN takes care of that Also, if one finds that someone is committing a wrong deed, somethng that is haram, then they have every right to speak out, in fact i believe it is farz upon them. It’s sheer stupidity to judge someones character by their username.
i only mentioned his name when he said this thread was haraam. opening up a thread asking ppl about their sign is not haram…she wasnt promoting anything…she wasnt predicting anything.
u dont get it do u!! sure a nickname is a nickname…and if the name sharaabi doesnt make him a drinker than neither does opening up a thread asking ppl for their sign make em a sinner. Pointing out that astrology is wrong isnt debatable…i know it is wrong. But so is giving urself a name that goes against Islam even if it is a nickname. Im not saying that my name is any better…however im not the one accusing someone of committing haram.
no im not…but i do have to reply u know:D
but just so that WE are clear…we already ended this…b/w u and me. Im just replying to the comments other made.
im telling u if u had another nick…i would have taken u more seriously when it comes to Islamic discussions from the get go…at first i thought u were just some jerk who didnt know ur stuff who went around preaching what u didnt practice…but i know different now.
oh and i totally agree with the last part although i still didnt see anything that wrong with the thread…however i do know what u mean
np princess:)
i just thought of this thread as an innocent thread that shouldnt have been taken so seriously. however it was…sorry for hijacking ur thread:blush:
So many different view here and lot of , from my side too.
Good point AE, no one has commited sin by opening this thread.
Few things i would like to clrearify here:
islam does recognize astrology as a valid branch of science but is against it because its incomplete knowlege therefore we are adviced not to follow it. We all accept this fact not second opinion her Sharaabi
knowing about sharaab is not haram but drinking it, similarly knowing about signs isn’t haram by any means but following / believing part of astrology that deals with furute forcasting etc.
personality analysis that we see on horoscope sites are not really astrology based but extracted by analysing bunch of ppl who belong to same zodiac sign. NO haram thing here
everyone has a right to speak his mind, in favour or against
most of us don’t believe that chatting is haram, so no use proving your point AE
surely, no harsh feelings here for anyone from anyone, we just did some healthy discussion, thats all
Last but not the least Scorpions are very complicated ppl, and i don’t want you PS to get angry cause U guys can be very lethal , just chill out and no one has hijacked your thread, alteast not me
I am sooo confused over this issue dat I don't even know dat I should believe in horoscopes or not. My star sign says that I am a money loving person but my mum says dat I can't hold a five cents coin for one minute. I spend everything I get and is I don't spend it then i distribute it among my siblings. This is crazy I am totally opposite wat I am supposed to be according to the stars.
You act is if this is my opinion…its not! … most scholars believe it is prohibited…and these scholars are much more knowledegable than u and I…if u dont believe it than it would be wise that u do ur research before disagreeing with it. If u dont ask someone educated on this matter or u dont look into it than u’ll one of those ignorant ppl that dont want to know the truth. Surely u dont want to be one of those ppl. So plz…look it up…ask scholars, compare and contrast and than believe what u want.
anyway i dont wanna discuss this anymore. I told you what i’ve read and heard in various lectures etc…the rest is up to u to found out. My job here is done.
… there’s a guy named fartguru on here, doesnt mean he goes around farting, etc etc…What’s wrong is wrong… he jus pointed out astrology to be haram and u bacchay jump on him, and that’s just stupid. How you can say something that’s definitely wrong to be debatable is beyond me… anyway thas it… i’m done arguing abt this crap
, from my side too.
