What is Sind's criticism on Kalabagh dam..???

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Mangla was build by the politicians, whereas Tarbela and KBD was in pipeline, here comes Ayoub Khan, who along with many controversies ( like making 2 eids in Pakistan etc), delayed the KBD, and delayed the Hydro Power project on Kunhar River, Delayed many other project for which the not only the feasibility was ready but the funding was available as Pakistan was considered developed state back then.

The delay was not due to the reason stated by you but it was delayed because the military might didn't have any idea that what development these dams can bring in Pakistan, similarly, they ignored many other projects in East Pakistan...

Then comes ZAB, again never paid any attention to the development better said if he started the demise of the industrial development of Pakistan, which continued under Zia regime who purposely fueled the ethnic and religious differences and made issues out of none issues, KBD is one of them...

KBD has great potential, more that it can be seen on the paper, when it come to cost benefit analysis, then there are more benefits compare to the risks associated with the project, there is no project on the planet ( specially hydel) which do not have risk, look at the recent nuclear disaster in Japan... same goes with KBD, it have its own risks but there are calculated and there are mitigation available for those...

But the problem as Naseem Wali was quoted saying, the project is OK, but saying OK to the project would be kill us politically, and why because they have created so much myth around it that now they cannot take their position back...same goes with the Sindhi parties...

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This means that KDB was not supported or ignored from Ayub Khan to Zia ul Haq regimes. Benazir lead governments also opposed that. So remaining, Nawaz Sharif & Musharraf governments seem to agree atleast on one single agenda.

The issue is that we don't have trust on our political parties and there are arguments for both in favour and against KDB. Had there been any independent and reliable review of the project?

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No it was not like that, Like i said, by the time of BB and NS, it was already too late, ZIA was able to create a bigger issue of otherwise a nation-wide beneficial program, lots of small parties of Sindh and ANP literally lived on the issue of KBD.. so BB opposed it, and NS was not much help either, he tried to build consensus and that is when the famous quote of Naseem wali...

But Mushy, he was one kind of dramay-baaz, far head of Ayoub, Zia and Yehya, the things he want to do, we never ask nation about it and the things of national interest which he do not want to do, he create drama about it... it is not KBD, his whole tenure is full of episodes like this

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You guys seem to be staunch supporters of traitors MQM!

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Its other way around. MQM supported the majority on KDB issue.

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At the time of national unity among original Pakistanies, you are discussing these disputed topic! Thats why you seem to be a supporter of traitor MQM like me!

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Original Pakistanis? Baloch, Pathan, Sindhi, Urdu speaking, Punjabi, all are original Pakistanis. Discussing some topic on this forum will not harm our harmony.

Plz contribute your point of view on the matter,before this thread also get full of Anti-MQM posts.

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the day we'll be able to disagree with others without feeling bad about it and not calling other Ghaddars and start shooting whoever is not from our race, would be the day of freedom for Pakistan... till then, all we are doing is, either advocating murderers of our side and blaming murderers of other side, missing the main point that murderers are murderers and should be dealt accordingly, otherwise, no one will be safe..

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Any dam in the north wont stop the kind of flood we are seeing in lower Sindh these days as it is caused by the rains there itself.

However Sindh should agree to a building a dam in the north to store the water of super/mega floods which come once in a decade like 1992 or 2010.

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its politicised for vote gains, nothing on the technical issues, if there were few these have been resolved by change of the height of the dam. in my opinion reasons are

  1. political gains by ethnic parties (some also towing this idea to please masters outside of Pakistan)

  2. royality issue as this will be first major dam in Punjab (Tarbela - KP, Mangla-AJK), the royality from this dam will go to Punjab, other provices think Punjab will gain on their expense ie Sindh for fear of less water, KP lake will submerge some of their area. this can be solved by sitting together and deviding the royality. Balochistan i guess just negating it as fashion or levarage as their is no direct impact of dam on Blochistan.

  3. world bodies and some power doesnt want this project to go beyond paperwork, as this will provide a solid energy resources needed for emerging economy like Pakistan. this will keep Pakistan begging for energey and will never stand firm for a solid economic growth which in trun shed pressures due to Pakistan financial needs. US and India come to mind for geo political and rivalary reasons.

if the above issue solved/addressed by a can do attitube leader who is willing to do greater for Pakistan. it will become reality within a decade.

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great analysis !!

I think everything should be resolved through talks and perhaps punjab should even let all the royalty to go to sindh/KPK, but let us build dams. For the handuful of hateful racist nationalist parties like ANP who thrive on such issues and will never agree, they should be publicly flogged. I am sure if there was angrez ruling us, he would get it over with and deal with an iron fist the balongras of russians.

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Punjab has already conceded the royalty in favor of KP.. Irrigation of additional 2.8 million acres of land for cultivation (an addition of 15 % to the present agriculture resource).. in addition to converting existing millions of acres from one season to two season cultivation (minimum 15% addition to agriculture resource).. energy.. flood management.. the benefits are 100 times more than the downsides..

Our generations will not forgive us if we don't build this dam ASAP.. if God forbid they face starvation, energy crisis, floods.. they will curse us for the petty regional politics..

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Your flood canals are proposed to give a way for extra waters in proposed Kala Dam, Those are not linked with the proposed effected area of Khairabad,Kund , Malahi tola up to Noshehra. I am grown up in this area and my basic education from 'Kachi, Paki' to graduation is in Attock (Previously Campbellpur) and if you know some thing really 5o% are effected will be of said Campbellpur district (Now Attock and Chakwal).
This thread is started at wrong footing however I am too in favor of Building of Kala Bagh dam but who can trust us.