From my personal point of view it is simply the inability to enjoy the diversity of life by categorizing everything into neat little boxes that make no sense.
Now what is westernized culture? It is the concept that the individuals views are paramount over the collective. Consider it the federation vs the Borg. Eastern Culture is very much the Borg. In that regard western culture places importance on various activities that can be considered more hedonistic than say eastern culture.
The more glaring features of a western culture are as follows:
The breakdown of the family unit.
More emphasis placed on individual needs and gains. Be it a job or dancing at a club. Its more on the individuals desires and actions.
A substantive support for women empowerment and women's rights.
Respect for greater ethnic diversity and fundemental human rights.
Since we are limiting it to the social context that is all I will mention.
you guys are miles away from the actual thing i was looking for. Yes, it could be my fault that i put the title of the post "What is westernized culture". I could not think anything else i put it this way. I thought, people would "read" the post before they will reply but .. nvm.
First of all, let me clear my question .. Its not a question rather a confusion that *If we are on our religious grounds then does it really matter that a cultural difference could become the reason for the difference between couple or even rejecting someone just 'caz they are not from this culture (this could be US, CAN, UK anything) .. *
Secondly, Someone said that Pakistani people htink that we are westernized. emm, who made 'em think? People living in WEST. for sure, pointing out and picking on their different daily routines, their accent even on their dressing. If we are not gona proud of our culture who would? Everyone follow the black guys, people raised here consider 'em cool .. and they feel ashamed to follow their own culture .. WHY ?
Someone even pointed out the kind a dressing which is called dressing. Perfect. now the thing confuse me that girls really feel it okay to wear such dresses even knowing that they are not religiously okay ??? .. is living in a society and going according to it is that important that peole totally overlook their religious importance? .. Going along the culture is something different and losing yourself in the culture is something else. I know guys, been in the very society, among people where alcohol and all other things are normal, in parties .. but .. they are always miles away from all that bull**** .. .. they know the limits .. how come other people don't know? (not being specific to girls or guys .. its in general).
In the West you are servant to the governement and to the powers that be.
In the East your servant to your God and the establishment can go *****itself!
depends on your definition of what east is, whether we look at middle east or far east, there are govts who do major chitrol on the citizens on an ongoing basis.
Its not all anarchy like a few spots in certain areas.
you guys are miles away from the actual thing i was looking for. Yes, it could be my fault that i put the title of the post "What is westernized culture". I could not think anything else i put it this way. I thought, people would "read" the post before they will reply but .. nvm.
First of all, let me clear my question .. Its not a question rather a confusion that *If we are on our religious grounds then does it really matter that a cultural difference could become the reason for the difference between couple or even rejecting someone just 'caz they are not from this culture (this could be US, CAN, UK anything) .. *
Secondly, Someone said that Pakistani people htink that we are westernized. emm, who made 'em think? People living in WEST. for sure, pointing out and picking on their different daily routines, their accent even on their dressing. If we are not gona proud of our culture who would? Everyone follow the black guys, people raised here consider 'em cool .. and they feel ashamed to follow their own culture .. WHY ?
Someone even pointed out the kind a dressing which is called dressing. Perfect. now the thing confuse me that girls really feel it okay to wear such dresses even knowing that they are not religiously okay ??? .. is living in a society and going according to it is that important that peole totally overlook their religious importance? .. Going along the culture is something different and losing yourself in the culture is something else. I know guys, been in the very society, among people where alcohol and all other things are normal, in parties .. but .. they are always miles away from all that bull**** .. .. they know the limits .. how come other people don't know? (not being specific to girls or guys .. its in general).
Yes, people seem to be missing your point..culture does not matter, each culture has its aspects which may or may not conform with religious guidelines. so two people can be from two very different cultures and religiously it makes no difference if their perspectives on what is acceptable or not acceptable is aligned regardless of what the cultural norms allow in their respective cultures.
Yes, people seem to be missing your point..culture does not matter, each culture has its aspects which may or may not conform with religious guidelines. so two people can be from two very different cultures and religiously it makes no difference if their perspectives on what is acceptable or not acceptable is aligned regardless of what the cultural norms allow in their respective cultures.
so does this mean that people who make "culture" an argument of accepting/rejectin someone are putting culture on top of all their priorities i.e. their religion .. does this make 'em even a muslim???
so does this mean that people who make "culture" an argument of accepting/rejectin someone are putting culture on top of all their priorities i.e. their religion .. does this make 'em even a muslim???
It can be and it may not be..
There are aspects of culture that really dont have much to do with religion right? just like there are protocols etc of a particular family or khandan that really dont have much to do with religion but could have an impact on compatibility.
something as simple as how a family likes to spend weekends can be a compatibility issue, or if there is a certain way of dressing..lets say equally modest, but one side's preference is a particular type of clothing..
niether is going against religion or incompatible with religion but small things tend to add up.
I suppose the argument can be made that forcing preferences is counter to religion in some ways. I mean we have all heard stuff like oh thats a hyderabadi family, or a Pathan family, or they are UP walay, they are sindhi and then say yeah cultural compatibility is an issue. This is people living in Pakistan forget people overseas, and its a 'cultural compatibility' issue for people living in the same city, 4 blocks from each other.
maybe the correct term is ethnocentrism :) I dont know I barely showed up to my sociology classes in college :(
Definately food for thought.