Re: What causes religion?
Isn't it denouncement of all the religions?
It is a religion which denounces other religions on the basis of not accepting God's presence.
It is a big topic and lots of controversies.
I am aware of two famous and very smart statements of atheists which tries to say atheism is NOT a religion.
But in essence it IS. Atheism has all the ingredients of being a religion. Followers are few, some organized, some are not.
Re: What causes religion?
I did not use the word 'law' on purpose so it may not be confused with man made/society made laws.
Your second sentence confirms what I said. They 'needed' some form of 'religion'.
The question in first post did not ask what are the differences among various religions. It is a general question about 'any' religion.
Well u said,
Nothing 'causes' religion.
Religion is said to be a set of rules laid upon human from God.
The Greek religion certainly wasn't in conformation with those laws. Infact there are many faiths that don't conform to Laws ordained by God. So those religions must have been invented. Mormonism and Scientology for example, both clearly invented religions wouldn't you say?
Re: What causes religion?
Well u said,
Nothing 'causes' religion.
Religion is said to be a set of rules laid upon human from God.
The Greek religion certainly wasn't in conformation with those laws. Infact there are many faiths that don't conform to Laws ordained by God. So those religions must have been invented. Mormonism and Scientology for example, both clearly invented religions wouldn't you say?
You misunderstand our diwana ...
They invented those religions to fulfil that need that God gave them ... The fact that they realised the need was there but did not choose to follow establish religion or in our case Islam they then had to fill that hole using something else. diwana's argument is that need must be met even by those who profess to no religion.
Re: What causes religion?
Well u said,
Nothing 'causes' religion.
Religion is said to be a set of rules laid upon human from God.
The Greek religion certainly wasn't in conformation with those laws. Infact there are many faiths that don't conform to Laws ordained by God. So those religions must have been invented. Mormonism and Scientology for example, both clearly invented religions wouldn't you say?
I also said the question is fundamentally wrong. The use of word 'causes' for religion has variable meaning.
What causes rain? Well, there is a scientific reason behind it. Rain happens whether there is a need or not.
It has a reason behind it and if conditions are met, rain happens.
Religion does not just happen, it requires a need/wish/want. Hence using word 'causes' for religion is incorrect.
You misunderstand our diwana ...
They invented those religions to fulfil that need that God gave them ... The fact that they realised the need was there but did not choose to follow establish religion or in our case Islam they then had to fill that hole using something else. diwana's argument is that need must be met even by those who profess to no religion.
Thank you sir. :)
Re: What causes religion?
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Re: What causes religion?
You misunderstand our diwana ...
They invented those religions to fulfil that need that God gave them ... The fact that they realised the need was there but did not choose to follow establish religion or in our case Islam they then had to fill that hole using something else. diwana's argument is that need must be met even by those who profess to no religion.
That is essentially what i had thought as well, filling some void created by the absence of God. However, the "Need" being given to them by God is an assumption isn't it? I think the presence of the need can be explained through evolution of the human psyche within the context of our environment. All humans yearn for order and structure in order to make sense of things. That void then is an inherent need to fill gaps in our understanding. Hence, ancient humans being unable to explain their environment invented religion.
I think the structure of the question that was asked, what "causes" religion, or what "causes" the invention of religion is a question that presupposes that there is wholly terrestrial explanation for the creation of religion without any resort to the divine. Another words, you and Diwana saab are using spiritual philosophy to answer a question asked along secular sociological lines.
Although I will admit that Diwanas explanation was very nice.
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I do agree and have mentioned that religion does not necessarily need a divine entity. Some die hard atheist like Bill Maher, will be offended by this. 
And it is not that God has granted the need and in order to fulfill this need, God gave religion.
I reality, human by nature and by virtue of having an inquisitive mind (better that animals or any lower class species) intrinsically have this urge and need to have something which could explain various phenomenon and metaphysical and even many scientific observations.
Those human being (the vast majority) who still have no satisfaction from best of their abilities kneel down and accept the religion from God.
Those who even though cannot explain many unsolved mysteries of universe and ‘choose’ not to accept God-given religion still try to satisfy their ‘material’ need and in order to have harmony in their lives,… ‘create’ their own version of religion.
And that **religion **my friend is…either Buddhism or Atheism. (Again, Bill Maher will roll his eyes 
)
And some even decided to worship devil. Others worshiped items like sun, fire or even male organ!
Thank you for your comment however. 
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for diwana
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What did I do? 
Popped your… bubble? 
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Wow, you've only gotten weirder....
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Why you say that? 
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Absolutely agree with diwana ... You only need to look at history to see that there is empirical evidence that God sent down religion - through revelation ... these new ideas of "people developing religion from scratch" is baseless historically ... History teaches us that revealed religion came first.
Revelation often in the form of scripture is often dismissed as historical evidence ... and I find this an annoying thing ... almost a conspiracy perhaps ...
Re: What causes religion?
Atheism is a form of religion.
Sorry, but not believing in superstition does not= believing in superstition.
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Absolutely agree with diwana ... You only need to look at history to see that there is empirical evidence that God sent down religion - through revelation ... these new ideas of "people developing religion from scratch" is baseless historically ... History teaches us that revealed religion came first.
Revelation often in the form of scripture is often dismissed as historical evidence ... and I find this an annoying thing ... almost a conspiracy perhaps ...
Really, so how do religions/scriptures explain dinosaurs?
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Really, so how do religions/scriptures explain dinosaurs?
Peace Shamraz Khan
Well I would answer your question if you can tell me why religion needs to explain dinosaurs in terms of the sake of our humanity.
It is a dud question you ask.
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Sorry, but not believing in superstition does not= believing in superstition.
Funny ... I find atheists amongst the most superstitious people ... Superstition is putting faith in things that have no power ...
Re: What causes religion?
Currently, there are 21 major ones it seems, with atleast 400 unrelated ones. Of course there can be no accurate measurement of such things. Moreover, this doesn't count the defunct religions that have come and gone in the past 20 thousand years.
Opine and discuss.
There is only one divine religion, Islam or submission, rest is all what we , human beings, have created out of our sheer hypocrisy.
Re: What causes religion?
Peace Shamraz Khan
Well I would answer your question if you can tell me why religion needs to explain dinosaurs in terms of the sake of our humanity.
It is a dud question you ask.
Its not a dud question in context of your post
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"there is empirical evidence that God sent down religion - through revelation ... these new ideas of "people developing religion from scratch" is baseless historically ... History teaches us that revealed religion came first.
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So, which came 1st...religions, people or dinosaurs (science proves that dinosaurs were here before people & we know that from using carbon dating)? And what empirical evidence shows that God sent religion 1st?
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Funny ... I find atheists amongst the most superstitious people ... Superstition is putting faith in things that have no power ...
Really? The diff between religious and non-religious people is that we don't spend too much time thinking about superstitious stuff that religious people think about.
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Sorry, but not believing in superstition does not= believing in superstition.
Before I touch on the believing superstition versus not believing superstitions, I must clarify why I said Atheism IS a form of religion.
First: As I mentioned, a religion does not need the concept of God. Some atheists take pride in thinking they are the only one group not believing on God or reject existence of God.
Second, I also said Atheism has all the ingredients of being a religion.
It has its own followers,
It has people with some set rules and many are common to each other,
It has people who themselves want to be regarded very different from other people who follow different religions,
It has people who spend a lot of time preaching others to follow their beliefs.
It denounces or alienates even Buddhism which has no concept of God. Atheists want Bhuddists to 'cleanse' themselves of Buddhism!
It has people who strongly believe they are right. Even ridicule others.
It has followers who want to be legally separated from others and demand their rights as being religious.
etc.
US supreme court has decided Atheism is a religion, based on its follower's demands.
Ever heard of **secular humanism **as religion? This is what atheists want others to believe on.
Get this! ........ it even has its own apostasy concept (Tergiversation). There is example of atheist apostate reverting back to being religious, and was ridiculed by **atheist Messhiah **Richard Dawkin. :)
By the way if someone really goes in to minute detail, pure atheism is hard to find.
Bill Maher once said he would believe in Christianity, if he saw Jesus (Issa AS), and since chance of that happening is zero, he would stick to being atheist. :D
Sorry, but not believing in superstition does not= believing in superstition.
Off course the way you wrote the sentence, I would agree on literal basis that believing on anything is not equal not believing the same thing. But the message you are bringing is different I am sure.
Now, can you define the superstitions and what superstitions you are referring to, so the comment can be made on it with same understanding.