faisal
Shariah does'nt permit torture if you got a problem with islam thats tough.
You can make hypothetical assumptions all day long, i prefer to deal with reality.
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*Originally posted by Imdad Ali: *
But can Muslims kill non-muslims? Like Pearl?
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Imdad
I don't think the pearl case is clear cut, he was killed yes but it was pinned on muslims which is usally the case these days trial by media.
But on the issue non muslim getting killed on the battlefield this is natural.
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Shariah does'nt permit torture if you got a problem with islam thats tough.
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This statement alone shows how little you understood the point I am making. I gave you the sharia position on prisoners of war. You probably couldn't understand half of it, because of your single track mind to lamblast the west, and not trying to even have a basic understanding of the topic you are trying to discuss.
Islam values human lives. Its as simple as that. There is as much, if not more, value to a life of innocent human beings who are about to be killed by a criminal, compared to the right of the criminal who is about to kill them. Think about this statement for 5 seconds before you click the reply button to post another one-liner which is missing the point again.
The problem is that while it is very common to find people who have no idea what they are talking about, it becomes infinitely more difficult to communicate with people who have closed minds and are unwilling to learn or even try to understand the issue. It is here that the discussion becomes a farce and a waste of time. I gave you references of historical compilations and Islamic position on the topic, and all you were able to come back with was a one-liner saying "Shariah does'nt permit torture if you got a problem with islam thats tough". We can cure ignorance, we can't cure stupidity. Sorry to say this to you. Next time you start a topic, where you have no idea what you are talking about, be prepared that others may come in and correct you. Some times nicely, sometimes harshly. Its all part of life here.
faisal
Under islam are you allowed to torture a person yes or no!
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Under islam are you allowed to torture a person yes or no!
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For the love of g_d, can we not take the dialog and discussion to a higher level?
So your point is that Islam does not allow a person to be tortured huh? Is the depth of thought therefore, "so it is written and so it is?"
Torture is. And its practitioners are both Muslim and non-Muslim. So what is Islamic scripture going to do about it? Neither Islam, nor Christianity nor Judaism nor any other religion can do anything about stopping it. So far, these wonderful expressions of international law and condemnation of torture have done nothing to stop it.
Here we have someone attempting to meaningfully discuss reality and all you've got to offer is that Islam does not permit torture. Well that's just hunky dory. Islam doesn't permit torture...end of discussion...problem solved. Next topic please.
"faisal
Under islam are you allowed to torture a person yes or no!
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Look out Oxford, Harvard and Stanford, we found a live one!
AK47, (i cant believe I am addressing a guy who's chosen nick name is a gun) Sharia law allows men to judge thieves, and cut off their hands. (bet THAT hurts!) What the professor proposed for a presumed murder is the administration of drugs and needles under the fingernails. This is CERTAINLY less harmful and physically debilitating than lopping off a limb. The real question falls to justice. Can a SUSPECTED murderer be coersed to give information so that theoretically a million people could be spared.
You still have not directly answered my question.
ohiogiy and myvocie
are you one and the same?
anyway the american rightwingers on guppshup have yet again prooved watching too much tv is bad for you and your comments proove that.
Instead of watching Fox News for your information on islam i suggest either learn what islam really is or don't jump out of your prams and discuss islamic hukms which you know nothing about.
Bringing up an example from the judicial system where a judgement could be passed on a thief and his hand is cut. And then you take this judgement which is specifically to do with theft and apply it generally onto a different topic and to say yes torture is permitted wholesale in islam shows how incorrect you are.