Re: Well educated militants behind high profile attacks - CM Sindh
Thank you radicalization was the word, will amend my post.
Re: Well educated militants behind high profile attacks - CM Sindh
Thank you radicalization was the word, will amend my post.
Re: Well educated militants behind high profile attacks - CM Sindh
Saad Aziz’s Road to Radicalization | ARY NEWS
**It is now emerging, according to the account of senior Karachi police officials who have interrogated Saad Aziz, that he targeted social activist and entrepreneuer Sabeen Mahmud because of her liberal views and because, according to him, she campaigned against Lal Masjid cleric Maulvi Abdul Aziz.
In fact, one report also suggests that she was targeted because she had “led a campaign to promote Valentine’s Day” and that this had become very controversial. In fact, this controversy happened in February 2013 and Ms Mahmud went off Twitter for sometime (deactivated her account @sabeen** for some time) after she received death threats on social media.
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Along with several of his former classmates at IBA, Saad began publishing an online magazine “Al Rashideen” (means The Rightly Guided in English) and it is still available at *Alrashideen - Home
The Twitter account of the magazine @AlRashideen (with 14 followers) — which hasn’t tweeted since February 25 — says “We are the Only Anti-Shia English Magazine in the World” and gave its geographical location* as “Syria”.** The third edition of the magazine is available at http://www.scribd.com/doc/133768094/Alrashideen-3rd-Shumara and has over 1,300 views . It has several articles that can be interpreted as sharply critical of Iran. There is one on the ]amia ul ulum ul Islamiyya Binori in Karachi — usually known as the Binoria Town Madrassha — and it showers praise on it and says that “no Islamic revolution can come without madaris”.
Another article in the magazine was sharply critical of former Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmedinejad. Another article was about a suicide attack on a Tablighi Markaz in Swat in January 2013 in which several people died and lamented that the media did not give it enough coverage. It also said that “only” a PTI activist condemned the incident and quoted her as saying that while the media gave a lot of coverage to Malala Yousafzai’s attack, it gave far less to this particular one. The same article also mentions the sect of several Pakistanis in important leadership positions — in the past. It also quoted former Punjab Law Minister Rana Sanaullah when he argued that an ASWJ candidate for a provincial assembly seat in Jhang got over 50,000 votes and hence his candidacy couldn’t just be wished away or dismissed.
**The third edition of the magazine that Saad Aziz and his friends took out — all written in reasonably good English — also reproduced a speech Maulana Haq Nawaz Jhangvi, who founded the Anjuman-e-Sipah Sahaba, and in whose memory the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi was formed. Several other articles contained content that would be deemed as being heavily critical of Shias.
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The first edition of the magazine reproduced an English translation of an article by Jaish-e-Muhammad leader Maulana Masood Azhar on the value of Jihad titled “Jihad: A Cause of Mercy or Anarchy?”
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..something more …
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Of course he was smart enough to do it right after the Balochistan seminar so the blame immediately falls onto the state and the whole thing gets lost in Balochistan debate. Unfortunately, we had plenty of idiots who jumped on the bandwagon to use this opportunity to spit their prejudicial venom against Pakistani army. Next time any ‘self proclaimed liberal hippie’ from Yawn sneezes, just blame it on ISI or the ‘agencies’.
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The Jehadi menace has nothing to do with AH, MQM, middle class, Saulat Mirza category… You are unable to see beyond your prejudice in Saad Aziz and his friends. Dawn’s Amir Rana has written an excellent article on understanding the Jehadis.
Understanding the new militants of Pakistan - Blogs - DAWN.COM
To many, Tahir, Saad, Azfar and Nasir may appear new militant characters. But, profiles and ambitions of similar characters have been highlighted many times in the recent past.
The confessions made by these detainees shocked many, particularly those who believed that terrorists exist only in the lower classes and in unusual circumstances.
Educated and well-off, as their profiles suggest, these terrorists were reportedly involved in the recent wave of attacks in Karachi, including the massacre of members of the Ismaili community and the killing of rights activist, Sabeen Mahmud.
Also read: Qaim announces arrest of killers behind Safoora Goth, Sabeen’s murder
Shocking as this is, it is not a new phenomenon.
There is a long list of high profile terrorists hailing from educated middle-classes in Pakistan.
Daniel Pearl murderer Omar Saeed Sheikh, Al Qaeda IT expert Naeem Noor Khan, Al Qaeda operative Dr Arshad Waheed, Time Square bombing planner Faisal Shahzad, Danish embassy bombing culprit Hamad Adil, and hijacker of a navy frigate at Karachi dockyard Owais Jakhrani are just few names.
Understanding the emerging militant characterWhile the presence of extremist tendencies in upper middle- and elite-classes is not new, in recent years however, the number of militants hailing from these classes has grown.
The Muslim Diaspora communities in the West are quite familiar with this phenomenon of emerging extremist tendencies. In Pakistan, a segment of the militants hailing from educated middle-classes represents a new stream.
Also read: From IBA graduate to ‘terror suspect’?
This stream, as a whole, not only contributes to other militant streams, but the militants within it also try to distinguish themselves from other groups. These include multiple types of the groups, including breakaway factions of conventional militant organisations and emerging groups. The Punjabi Taliban and Jundullah are its prominent examples, which represent two major shades of the stream.
Militants in the making are a dangerous phenomenon of this stream.
Self-radicalised individuals who are influenced by terrorist ideologies fall in this category. Though, not formally affiliated with any local or international terrorist organisation, they are in search of causes that resonate with their radicalised worldview.
The numbers of potential militants in this category could be large. A failure to find and join a ‘proper’ terrorist group can encourage them to plan and launch terrorist attacks by defining the targets themselves.
The Jundullah factorThe phenomenon of Jundullah is important in the perspective of urban militancy and understanding this new stream of militancy.
In the same manner as there are many Punjabi Taliban groups, many groups are also operating under the Jundullah nomenclature in Pakistan.
While the Punjabi Taliban emerged from Deobandi and Salafi militant groups, the Jundullah groups are breakaway factions of the Jamaat-e-Islami (JI) and its student and militant wings.
With the exception of Jundullah in the Iranian Balochistan region, the remaining entities under this label, active in Karachi and the Peshawar valley, are of a similar disposition. With their Islamist background, they are naturally inclined towards the Islamic State (IS) militant group and like a few commanders of the Hizb-e-Islami — a JI-affiliate in Afghanistan — apparently intend to announce their allegiance to the IS.
To terrorists’ advantageA lack of organisational structure makes organisations in the emerging militant stream operationally dangerous; these also provide human resources to major groups for their terrorist plans.
Their fluidity makes them a big challenge for law enforcement agencies. These groups can generate funds through criminal activity and because of their small size, they can sustain their activities on minimal resources.
The loose organisational structure provides these groups more freedom to evolve the operational strategies by themselves, and this advantage makes them capable to come up with new patterns of terrorist attacks.
The arrested culprits of the Safoora Goth massacre were found involved in multiple types of attacks ranging from targeted killing and sabotage acts to managing big attacks, which shows their operational diversity.
It is likely that they chose different names for their group in different attacks to deceive law enforcement agencies. The attacks they confessed to have carried out also include attacks which once a little-known group of Karachi, the Tehrik-e-Khilfat, had claimed the responsibility for. This is the same group which had taken the lead in announcing its allegiance to the IS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi in Pakistan. Yet, it remains to be seen if this is the same terrorist group.
Though, the initial lead suggests that these terrorists had links with Al Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent, which has an extensive network in Karachi, their targets and operational style suggests that the Islamic State had inspired them.
It is also important to understand that such groups remain in search of better connectivity with regional and international terrorist organisations. The possibility of their linkages with Al Qaeda cannot be ruled out as both were operating in the same territory.
Breaking this terrorist cell is certainly a big achievement of the Sindh police, which has also given them plenty of experience dealing with the militants of the new stream.
At the same time, they have hopefully realised that this would not be the only fluid group operating in the city.
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Another article on this point
Pakistan’s Educated Jihadis*|*Malik Siraj Akbar
The conventional wisdom suggests that poverty, illiteracy, underdevelopment and negligence breed terrorism. We have also been repeatedly trained to visualize an Islamic extremist as a bearded man who is dressed in the traditional attire with a cap on his head, and he almost always comes from a small, remote mountainous town. That is not always true. You can belong to a rich family, attain the best education that money can buy, speak fluent English, spend time on the internet and still end up as a religious fanatic.
Pakistan is certainly not the only country where wealthy and well-educated young people are being attracted to violent extremist movements. With the dramatic rise of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), experts estimate that over 6,000 Europeanand around 150 Americans nationals have joined, or at least attempted to join, the terrorist group.
In fact, some of the most high profile Pakistani jihadists received education from the renowned western institutions. For example, Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh, the British-Pakistani terrorist sentenced to death for his involvement in the 2002 kidnapping and the beheading of the Wall Street Journal reporter, Daniel Pearl, attended the London School of Economics. Dr. Aafia Siddiqui, an Al-Qaeda courier and financer who was sentenced to 86 years in prison in 2010 for two accounts for attempted murder, obtained a BS in biology in 1995 from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) and a Ph.D. from Brandeis University in 2001. Faisal Shahzad, the mastermind of the 2010 failed car bomb blast at New York’s Time Square, grew up rich at the house of a retired senior Pakistan Air Force official. He earned an MBA from the University of Bridgeport.
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It is definitely hard to believe, specially when people have been making case against madrassas, may be its time to shut down all education institutions in the country now?
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These “educated” people get brainwashed by Farhat Hashmi wahabbi types, and there is a steady recruitment of educated people by Tableegi Jamat types.
The terrorists need educated people to mastermind plans that will actually be engineered to work.
Even being educated it’s possible to get brainwashed.
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Why is it all surprising?
When seemingly well educated people living in the comfort of Europe can leave all behind to wash toilets for ISIS, why is this situation so difficult to comprehend?
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not so hard to believe…from what i heard, even LUMS has this problem. i think ali mentioned above as well, that he has seen seen militants roaming around in universities giving dawat to students to join them in their training camps in summer vacations.
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how do u identify a militant by ‘seeing them’? ![]()
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I dont know what is the deal these days and will let @Ali_Syed comment but i can comment on 90s…and also on 80s based on what i heard from my elder cousins…in agriculture university Faisalabad, UET lahore, punjab university, UET taxila, islamia college lahore , diyal singh college, and many other institutions, everyone knew who is militant in student organizations…every student organization used to have bunch of students who would carry weapons openly, would never ever attend a single class and would have a certain way and outlook. Even if you have not seen them before, you could tell they were not students but some sort of militants especially those whe belonged to jamiat…big chaadar, beards, shalwar tied little above feet. some of them took part in afghan war or in kashmir war as well and then used to come back and stay in jamiat hostels.
MSF had their own share of badmash student leaders. Akram gujjar and his gang ruled UET lahore for almost 10 years (82-92)…diyal singh colleage and many other colleges in lahore were ruled by arshad amin ch and his gang for a very long time until all of them were killed on shabaz sharif order. I cant remember many other names. all of them used to roam around these institutions as kings. Jamiat was in complete hold of jamiat ghundas in Punjab University and used to send “supporting ghundas” from punjab university to other institutions to help local jamiat organization for fights, breaking legs of opponents, weapons, firing etc.
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I know about the 90’s and open Jihad/Weapon wielding people on the universities plastering posters and welcoming ‘mujahideen’ into the universities. That all ended when Kashmir Policy changed.
I am talking about now. Not what happened 20-30 years ago.
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I studied in UET Taxila in mid/late 90’s and have seen LET people coming there for dawah…it was just like how tableeghi jamaat visit universities and give dawah to students after maghrib prayers with their commanders wearing commando uniforms and such…young people, guns and all…adventure, what can one ask for. If you have been to Northern parts of Pakistan in late 90’s and early 2000’s there were slogans in favour of jehad all over.
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lol, ye lambi lambi… you must be confusing JI with Tableeghi jamat, Talbleeghi jamat has no connection far far away with “commanders”
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i am talking of LET…and their modus ope*****..dawah for jehad after maghrib.
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Tableeghi jamat does not participate in any violent acts, it must be JI, JUI (F), or those individuals might be acting in their own way.
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^ it was lashkar e tayyaba, I was just pointing out that their commanders would come and address the students after Maghreb prayer. I used Tj in the mix to explain my point, otherwise I didn’t mean to say that they were involved in it.
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^ yes LeT can do that, when you throw TJ in the mix it just portrays one as ignorant from ground reality
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So now Rangers have captured 4 MQM workers who also accepted the blame for killing of Ismailis as well as Sabeen Mahmud.
Previously it was “radical extremists” who confessed for the same crimes.
It seems that whoever is getting apprehended, they make them accept all the crimes of recent past. :smack:
It reminds me of that “Haan men hathi hu” joke..
4 MQM workers arrested over Karachi bus attack - Daily Pakistan Global
4 MQM workers arrested over Karachi bus attack
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KARACHI (Web Desk) – Sindh Rangers has arrested as many as four Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) associated people on suspicion of connection with Karachi bus attack that killed 45 Ismailis on May 13, Pakistan Today claimed on Wednesday while quoting sources.
The report said that these workers were taken into custody by Rangers personnel on May 20 from the premises of Karachi University. All of the four arrested were also associated with MQM’s Scheme-33 Unit.
Rangers have identified those arrested as Muhammad Shahid alias Athara, Zeeshan Amin alias Shaan, Muhammad Adnan Habib alias Charas and his brother Muhammad Faizan Habib alias Fido.
They have been allegedly involved in planning to carry out the deadly attack on Ismalis’ bus, the sources claimed.
MQM, however, has rebutted the allegations hurled against party workers saying saying ” our activists have been the most patriots and they cannot even think of such crime”.
**Sindh Police has so far claimed of arresting as many as eight people for their alleged involvement in Karachi bus **attack. The culprits had further confessed to murdering rights acticist Sabeen Mahmud.