We believe in Jinnats... I want to know more about them...

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*Originally posted by ramyssysIX: *
Jinns are also Allah's creations, although different from us. Whats to be scared about? :D

50 or 60 years ago, when population was much more scarce, the encounters with Jinnats were quite common. My maternal grand father used to be a train driver (at that time of the sub-continent's divide) and he has told a few such stories. e.g. a woman appearing out of nowhere on the railway track in a jungle, when it was way past midnight...

I do know one thing, the chances are remote for someone to run into a jinn these days (unless he seriously messes up with them :D)... Or if someone unleashes a jinn on you on purpose (which is actually and literally kufr). The latter is not a very rare practice in the Indo-Pak subcontinent.

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how can one unleash a jin on someone ? tell tell..
-Salman

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Ever heard of black magic? kala ilm?

Allah muaaf karey! Usually hatred and jealousy is the motivator. The person becomes a kaafir and stays so unless he formally accepts Islam again.

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*Originally posted by SalmanNY: *
how can one unleash a jin on someone ? tell tell..
-Salman
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I wrote an incident on Qrius threadhere. This was 1 of my Xperience.

Dude u really wanna see jinns, come with me 2 pakistan, I’ll take u 2 a place where black magic is practiced. Oman, which is our neighboring country has a grave 40ft long…!

I’ve personally not seen 1, but I’ve had 2 Xperiences with them. I was not scared & I didnt have fear after listening 2 this audio. I’ve personally seen & heard my sister’s voice change & go in2 a trance.

3/5 of my sisters have jinns living with them. My dad has 1 too. 1 of my sister has 4 jinns living with her. I can assure u 1 thing. If any1 tries 2 hurt my youngest sis, they r in 4 a really deep surprise. Even my mom doesn’t scold her.

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^

Yes some can actually be quite friendly and useful.

About 40 years ago my nana jaan brought some land in a remote place of Punjab in the Jhang area, and moved there with his family.

There were some Muslim Jinn’s living near their place, my auntie once had a dream that she saw a female jinn in human form talking to her, the jinn told her about how they (my grandparents family) have some enemies and how she (the jinni) accompanies my grandpa up to a certain distance when he leaves the house to go somewhere and leaves him when it’s no longer dangerous.

My auntie told my grandpa the next day and he said yes he does have some enemies for political reasons and land etc. and it’s true he can smell a nice scent (itr) the minute he sets foot outside his house then the itr goes away when he gets to a certain tree.

The same auntie once saw some little nangey kids playing and then after a bit their limbs started stretching and going longer… my auntie got scared then that same miss jinni came in her dream and told her not to be scared because they wont harm her they were that jinni’s younger brothers and sisters.

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There have also been cases in our village where people when taken to the exorcist started speaking in a language that person had never heard of before like one time there was this woman who started speaking fluent English without an accent, she had never heard of English before and there she was having a conversation with the exorcist who had moved from the States to Pakistan.

Another time there was a man speaking fluent Arabic.

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WOW!! i didn't realise that u could c Jinns! i knew that there have been a lot of cases in Pakistan where they say they have been occupied by jinns and someone has set a jinn on them......... but JINNS CANNOT harm u if u sincerely believe in ALLAH (SWT)!
So, why do we hear of these stories where sum1's relative/friend has set a jinn on him/her, and they have driven themselves to insanity/taking there own life? can u please clarify this, and SHUD we believe in these stories?

Jazakullah

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We cannot see Jinn’s in their true form but they can take other forms e.g. cats, dogs, donkeys, humans and then they may show themselves to us.

And yes they can possess human beings and harm them too, but an effective way of preventing that from happening is to have firm faith in Allah, pray the obligatory prayers, read Quran, do Dhikr of Allah etc. and after every Fard Salaah and before sleeping recite Ayat-ul-Kursi, and the last three Surahs of the Quran.

They can’t harm the true servants of the Allah, who put their trust in no one but Him.

Ps. This is what I know from my limited reading on the subject, if I’ve made any mistakes, please somebody correct me, jazakallah khair.

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*Originally posted by underthedome: *

Jinns can take to the form of humans if they want to, no?
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UTD do you know what is said in the bible about jinns if anything? afterall its Solomon a major figure who is said to be ruling over humans and Jinns.

Just wanted to see whatthe bible says about it

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Fraudia, nothing about Jinns in the Bible that I know about, but I am clearly not the person to be asking when it comes to such matters, sorry.

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Fraudia, ask Old Man he might know.

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Can someone translate the audios please?

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*Originally posted by ~Nazish~: *
Can someone translate the audios please?
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Give me a few days, I'll have it translated from a friend of mine InshAllah...

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Thanks.

Take your time :-)

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:crying: this thread is scary!!! :crying:

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Dang, I just cant hear the audio files…

But this is a very interesting link. And no I have not heard of Jinns in the Bible, but then I am no Bible scolar…

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congrats on your 4K post …

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*Originally posted by Changez_like: *
Fraudia, ask Old Man he might know.
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I didn't follow this thread originally. Thanks for the PM MrFraudia.

"underthedome" is correct when he state that the Bible does not give any indications as to "jinns".

Christians are taught from the Bible that there are other beings which were created other than plants, the animal kingdom and humans. We generally call these beings "angels". Some people consider some of the other described beings in the Bible as separate entities as angels, eg. Seraphim. The Bible does not make any mention of "jinns" or any such a separate group of beings. The Bible though, does not state that the mentioned beings are the only creations of God and there might be others that we don't know about.

The Bible teaches us that there exist a hierarchy with different angels in higher authority than others (e.g. Archangels versus the normal angels). Some of the original host of angels revolted under the leadership of the archangel Lucifer and are now called "demons". Some of the characteristics of "jinns" are similar to these demons, eg. the tormenting of people.

The Bible teaches that humans are of a higher order of creation than angels/demons. The Bible clearly teaches that we humans should not be afraid of angels/demons and are in a position of authority over them except in situations where they are performing a function commanded by God (eg. the angel of Death).

The Bible teaches nothing about Solomon and his command over angels/demons/jinns.

I personally think that the whole idea of "jinns" originated from the fears and superstitions in the time of the Prophet Muhammad - but that is only my personal viewpoint.

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well ...my khala had jinns on her last ramadan....and she told me to go to an aalim for that...and what i experianced was amazing...i went to jamia ashraf ul madrais(one of the biggest maddrash in pakistan) and there was an aalim quite known for this type of thing and he just putted a stick on my head and told a muslim jinn to go to my house and take the jinns who are there....there were many the jinns there.......the muslim jinn brought all of them...the allim gave dawah to kaffir jinnats ...some of them embraced islma while others were burnt ............it was very SCARY .....

but still if some one recites four qull each day he will not be bothered by the kala ilm or jinnats.....inshallah

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y dad has a jinn & it used 2 bother him a lot. Back in 1992, when we came 2 pakistan, my uncle called an aalim & he "called" da jinn. I was in da same room. Dad used 2 fall quite sick with a heart ailment, which doctors werent able 2 diagnose. I have da same heart problem. The aalim called da jinn, who was a hindu female & she was converted 2 Islam by this aalim. My dad was in a state of trance with his hands shivering & his eyez closed. I was around 14 at that time. I wasnt scared. Everything is cool now wid him.

My sis at the same time who is 3 yrz younger 2 me, was also asked by the aalim 2 look at a piece of paper with inscriptions of the Holy Quran.

As she stared directly, her eyez stopped blinking & she wore a serious look. The aalim asked her, how many r u, & my sister replied - "Chaar" (4 in urdu). I was like shaken a bit but then da aalim put his hand over her head & started reciting a couple of ayats. Shez fine now.

2 of my other sisters also have jinns with them. I dun wan2 talk bout them coz my youngest sisters jinn harms others

My 1st ever Xperience was on a dark starry nite wid my friend. We were out in da desert 2 check da top speed on his new Vectra. We just stopped 2 take a look @ da sky. He switched his engine & stereo off, & then we just started counting stars. While we were looking at them, our car was rocked 2 times violently 2 times. Deep in my heart, I knew what it was, but I looked at my friend & asked him, did u pull ur hand brakes, he looked at me & he nodded yes. He said nuthin & tried 2 start da car. It was a brand new car, & it just wouldnt start, & I started reciting Ayat Al Kursi. The car was new & it was automatic. There was no problem with da gear (it was in P) & no problem wid da engine. After 10-15sec, it started & he just stepped on da gas, till we reached dubai city. We touched 230kph too...his top speed. We din speak da entire time we reached da city (approx 25km). As we parked under my house, I looked at him & he looked at me. We asekd each other if we saw something, but we had da same ans - NO. We did feel da car rock.

I'll continue this some other time, its 133am, I'm in pak, all alone & I wan2 go sleep downstairs. I already have a feeling some1 is watching me, coz this pc is in my room which has a family, which no1 can see, only da pious can.

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bao bihari, which Ashraful Madaris, the one that is in Gulshan Iqbal, Karachi? which aalim was that?