Re: Was Waqar better than Wasim?
Wearing my Geek Hat for a moment, to claim whether their averages were Statistically significant or not, you also need to consider the variance in their performance. If I had the stats, I'd compute the "t-test" - arggh!, but something tells me that Waqar's bowling performance was more consistent, i.e. for the fewer matches he played, he took wickets consistently... and by that token, the difference "could" be statistically significant in Waqar's favor.
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Akram..All thw way..
Waqar was a pappu bowler compared to Akram when it comes to variation
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Some where I had read a statistic that at the peak of his career (for 2-3 years), Waqar was getting a wicket every 23rd ball (Strike rate). A feat unsurpassed by any bowler in the history of cricket, by a long long margin. Pretty surprising, considering many of you believe he only had one wicket-taking delivery.
Wikipedia says about him: Waqar Younis has some outstanding records. In terms of balls bowled he has also taken the fastest 50, 300, 350 and 400 wickets in ODI matches and the fastest 150, 200, 250, 300 and 350 wickets in Test matches.
Anyway, I always feel its an impossible task to compare two world-class sportsmen and do justice. Waqar and Wasim were both fast bowlers, but with completely different tactics. Wasim was a virtuoso when it comes to variety. The amount of speed he could generate from the smallish run-up he had, was incredible. And as someone mentioned, Wasim must be given full credit for remaining fit and consistent throughout his career, despite battling diabetes and having the stress of being the main strike bowler of his team. And the captain too. A pretty successful one at that. Plus a fairly decent allrounder to boot.
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Waqar and Wasim in my eyes, both are our legends and it's really not the matter to differentiate who would have been better for Pak team. I think Waqar and Wasim both were deadly when they bowled and their stats and performances are unbeatable. They were the famous 2Ws which make every Pakistani Cricket fan proud.
Now, Wasim was involved in match fixing allegations and that's what I think kept him away from being our bowling coach. Also, Wasim can do the commentating and tv Cricket jobs a lot better than Waqar as he's more proficient in Eng. I think the PCB decision to appoint Waqar is superb and hopefully he'll turn our bowlers to gem and make every nation envy our bowlers inshAllah.
But on the other hand, I am skeptical about a great player being a great coach as said by Ehsan bhai. I remember that in matric in Pakistan, we used to hear that the best teachers are those who made "500" in the board exams and we see that Woolmer and Watmore as a perfect example of that in Cricket.
But, I am sure that given the scope of Woolmer and Inzi, Waqar's insight would create good mechanism for our young bowlers; it will groom them best and the results, well only time can tell how good or bad a coach Waqar was/is.
Umer
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unending debate indeed…
Lokesh, here is a link in which this issue was discussed in detail…hopefully it will answer some of your questions and it may raise some new questions too:) …
Re: Was Waqar better than Wasim?
Wasim was the best ‘lefthander’ swing bowler who was unplayable by many specialy when the ball was bit old.
H e would have been an Ideal bowling coach and I am sure his exclusion was not planned but rather due to his own personal commitments else where,
Pakistan still in search for ^ their ^ replacements , and just a bit more wait is in order I guess, 
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Wasim Akram was more of a control bowler, his line and length were perfect where as Waqar was the sher speed, his toe crashing yorkers were unplayable.
Both are legends no doubt.
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wasim of course
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For the most part of Waqar's career i thought he was better than Wasim, but Waqar in the end became more and more tame, while Wasim continued like always, so i think its Wasim.
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wasnt it waqar who took beating from jadeja in some world cup, like thirty two in an over or something
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yup it was waqar who went for 22 runs not 32.
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Every bowler gets a whacking once in a while by some batsman, for example in one over Razzaq smashed McGrath for some (3?) consecutive 4s, Brett Lee just got smashed for 4 consecutive 4s today, Kumble was milked for couple of boundaries by Saeed Anwar.... whats the point?
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Razaq smashed Mcgrath for consecutive 5 fours...:) ..plus afridi has scored above 18 in a over against most of the bowlers.
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Right now we talk about bowling partners on daily basis. Right combination is the best and if you don't have that no matter how talented the bowler is, long-term wise, he won't be able to perform at his best.
Wasim and Waqar were two different bowlers. Although Wasim might have an edge on his counterpart as a better batsman and captain but I think in bowling department they compliment each other. Both were lethal and match winners, it is sad that we always discuss failures of our legands as their career is stacked with extraordinary feats. Waqar with 373 Test and 416 ODI wickets. The only bowler to take 5 wicket haul in three consective ODIs and the fastest to take 150-350 wickets in Tests. One of the greatest fast bowlers the game has ever known and the master of reverse swing. In-swingers, toe crushers and reverse swing were his lethal weapons. Definatly a gift to the game.
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I would say Waqar cuz Wasim has already sold himself to India and would soon hear him shifting to India- he comes on Indian TV more than Pakistani media. Some where saying he is contemplating moving to India. His ancestors came from India and he thinks he belongs there too.
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No. Wasim Akram was better.
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At this point in time, I’d like to bring your attention to this thread here:
** Waqar Younis - the inimitable king of speed and swing**](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=142095)
More than Wasim Akram or Imran Khan, Waqar championed the simplest but deadliest cricket philosophy: You miss, I hit.
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Naaaaah, Wrong reply Captain! flirty is more interested in an Indian perspective reply, as always it seems.
So replace** 'Razzak** with,hmmm 
GANGULY ! 
heavy - pun