Re: Was Iqbal pro sufism?
^ so you believe that Sufism was against Islam in the subcontinent? There was no role of the Sufis in spreading Islam in our countries?
no, it was not against the islam literally. the problems muslim are facing that is deterioration of strength of Islamic civilization could not be countered by Sufism. fault with sufism is it sided with silence even when Islamic civilization was dissolving. in that sense the sufism was a problem for the revolution Iqbal proposed.
Re: Was Iqbal pro sufism?
I think poetry is one of the medium. Otherwise, if we culturally analyze psyche of Muslims of India (converted one), it was very difficult for them to comprehend concept of God developed in open lands of Arabia, where one can be directly linked with God without any intermediary as compared to prevalent intermediaries (otaar, etc) in the religion of their forefathers. Sufism somehow bridged that gap and then came the mannat and chadhwa on Mazaarat and search of someone who can link you with the God (which is otherwise inapproachable).
yes muqa, it was far more difficult to attract people by simple preaching, honest trade and dealing as done by arab traders then attracting people by dholki (drummer) as done by amir khusro.
so point is again compromise.
Re: Was Iqbal pro sufism?
most of poetry by iqbal was on urging upon muslims for revival of Islam and saving Islam from dissolving it cuz of other prevalent civilizations. So Iqbal rightly realized that sufism cannot do the job instead sufism in Hindustan was an attempt to otherwise. even Iqbal went a one step further where he said that taqleed is also not the solution for the problem Muslim are facing not to speak of sufism where strict peer-murid model is followed. problem is most interpretations of Iqbal's poetry came to us through either from those who have soft corner for sufism due to their taqleed or from irreligious people who completely ignore the central part that is revival if true civilization rather they kinda have soft corner for liberal Islam.
Don't you think that following basics of a religion is in itself a taqleed? If Sufi's peeri mureedi is a jamood (freezing point of thoughts), then Mulla also failed to follow Ijtihad (struggle to accommodate in new world) and Iqbal equally condemns Mulla as well....
Alfaz-o-Maani Mein Tafawat Nahin Lekin
Mullah Ki Azan Aur, Mujahid Ki Azan Aur
Parwaz Hai Dono Ki Issi Aik Faza Mein
Kargas Ka Jahan Aur Hai, Shaheen Ka Jahan Aur
I think Mujahid was not meant only for fighters but also for those who do struggle to make this world better place. Islam's struggle is for establishment of Adl 'A society where justice prevail'.
As is the verse of Surh e Hadeed:
We have already sent Our messengers with clear evidences and sent down with them the Scripture and the balance that the people may maintain [their affairs] in justice. And We sent down iron, wherein is great military might and benefits for the people, and so that Allah may make evident those who support Him and His messengers unseen. Indeed, Allah is Powerful and Exalted in Might.
(57:25)
Re: Was Iqbal pro sufism?
As far as taqleed is concerned, what exactly is following imam Hanbal, Abdul Wahab,Ttaymiyya (sp?), and in modern world Maududi, Tariq Jameel, Hafiz Saeed etc? If taqleed has nothing to do with Islam, then we have got Quran and Hadeeth every one can do their research. Why follow any particular group? Not agreeing with some aspects of Sufism is one thing and discarding everything that the Sufis did is another?
Re: Was Iqbal pro sufism?
Iqbal didnt say getting opinion by scholars is wrong it self. rather it was the attitude of muslims toward fellow muslims due to taqleed, that is derivation of division from taqleed. all the aima kraam had differnce of opinion but the division was not suggested by them. the ysaid throw away any of our teaching if you find against Quran and Sunnah. but today we have example where Muslims find it better even to side with non-muslims. dont think in perspective of ttp as Iqbal addressed the whole ummah.
Re: Was Iqbal pro sufism?
its not like Iqbal was against spirtuality rather the kind of spirituality reflects from poetry of Iqbal has no match.
giving another example of master piece reflecting height of spirituality by Iqbal.
tu bacha bacha k na rakh esay tere aaena hai wo aaena
k shakista to ho to aziz-tar hai nigah e aaena saaz main.
dont shy from the lord even if your heart is broken or you are feeling guilt.
rather a heart with guilt feelings, sincere confessing attitude is more dearer to Allah(s.w.t).
Re: Was Iqbal pro sufism?
Iqbal had categorically condemned the Wahdat ul Wajood and supported the Wahdat ul Shahood and supported Mujaddid-e-Alf Thaani to counter Wahdat ul Wajood.
Iqbal said "Nazria e Wahdat ul Wajood musalman qaum k leay zehar e qaatil hai."
Re: Was Iqbal pro sufism?
Iqbal had categorically condemned the Wahdat ul Wajood and supported the Wahdat ul Shahood and supported Mujaddid-e-Alf Thaani to counter Wahdat ul Wajood. Iqbal said "Nazria e Wahdat ul Wajood musalman qaum k leay zehar e qaatil hai."
Wahdat ul Wajood means Fana Fillah? Its most popular version of Sufi philosophy in Indo-Pak.
Re: Was Iqbal pro sufism?
Wahdat ul Wajood means Fana Fillah? Its most popular version of Sufi philosophy in Indo-Pak.
yes, like 'anal haq'