Was Ayesha a six year old bride?

[AQ]

Re: Was Ayesha a six year old bride?

@PyariCgudia

why didn’t he wait to marry her until she was 14? I thought waiting a long time to consummate marriage is discouraged?

Ahaadeeth tell us that it was commanded by ALLAH:swt:

Now, why Allah:swt: commanded so? Frankly there is no logical reasoning and understanding as similar to that there is no reasoning why we should pray certain number of times during a day. It’s just that it’s a command and we must follow.

[Code_Red]

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@lostsoul

The best way would be to delete the whole thread if the subject is sensitive for u.

You r being hypocrite, in re-starting the whole thread again. No sensible person would write anything that goes against the mullah-controlled version of Islam here, for fear of getting whole post deleted.

It is not personal insult that u r afarid of…It is another version of history that goes against ur deeply held set of beliefs…u should be man enough to admit it

Dear Lostsoul,

Discussions on every topic (related to religion) are allowed and encouraged here, no matter if it is against the personal beliefs of anyone. The only condition, that participant should focus on the topic and discuss in civilized manner

You will be surprised to know that the very same topic has been discussed here on a number of ocassions, just one example :

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=72735&highlight=Ayesha+age

You can see that discussion went along pretty well and participants shared their views without any censorship. You can find much more relavent information using search facility.

Please note that, I have no intentions to discourage further discussion in this thread. The link is provided in defense of an allegation.

You may continue the discussion

[PyariCgudia]

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Woah this I never heard of that the Rasul was commanded by God to marry a 9 year old Aisha...

From what I understood, he had known her since she was born, and he had known her while she was growing up - he felt that she was way more mature for her age, and some even go so far to say (oh get ready for this one), that he fell in love with her personality, and thus proposed to her.

[skhan]

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Well you haven't heard alot of things.

All of the prophet's (PBUH) marriages after Hazrat Khadija were commanded by God.

[Bookworm]

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PCG, what you call Prophet's (S.a.w) marrige to Sauda (r.a.a). She was 60 when they got married. Did he fell in love with her also ???

Since Prophet's(s.a.w) life is a path of guidence for us muslims, he set an example that one can be married to a girl who just bacame adult (I mean ADULT according to Sharia not the law implemented 100 years ago) or to an elder lady who needs support.

[lostsoul]

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@Ahmad G

Lady Aisha was wed at 9.
And Prophet Muhammad did not enter on her till she was 14.
Lady ^Aisha turned to be one of the best women of the world. Why because prophet Muhammad taught her Islam so she can teach the women, she also taught men.

Well, if her good upbringing was the intention, he could have adopted her as daughter. He was in 50s and she was < 10 years old, so I guess, it would be more appropriate, (if teaching and her upbrining was the intention)

[Sheraz_CT]

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so lostsoul whats ur point? what are you reallying saying?

[lostsoul]

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@Bookworm

PCG, what you call Prophet’s (S.a.w) marrige to Sauda (r.a.a). She was 60 when they got married. Did he fell in love with her also ???

Since Prophet’s(s.a.w) life is a path of guidence for us muslims, he set an example that one can be married to a girl who just bacame adult (I mean ADULT according to Sharia not the law implemented 100 years ago) or to an elder lady who needs support.

How would u feel about marrying off ur sister or daughter to 50 years old when she is 9 years old? (and adult by defeinition of shariah)

After all, shriat is good for all times, right?

[lostsoul]

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@Sheraz CT

so lostsoul whats ur point? what are you reallying saying?

Teaching and upbringing rationale, does not hold water

[Sheraz_CT]

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but still..what do you think about the whole issue? i dont wanna put words in ur mouth so please tell me what is ur point on this whole age/marriage issue

i didnt see ur earlier posts that were deleted

[lostsoul]

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@Sheraz CT

but still..what do you think about the whole issue? i dont wanna put words in ur mouth so please tell me what is ur point on this whole age/marriage issue

i didnt see ur earlier posts that were deleted

Seriously, I don’t know.

I am here as student. I want to learn.

But one thing that I want to challenge is that Islamic shariat is not global. Its interpretation changes with time and space, and the same applies to Quran. Do not take Quran too literally. It is a coded book, a book of principles and inspiration.

A 50 years old man can marry 9 years old girl 14 centuries ago. We can count on his good intentions. But for now, we should condemn such marriages, if we r not willing to let our 9 years old daughter and sister marry off to 50 years old man.

Mullah controlled version of Islam is stupid interpretation, lacking the spirit of Islam. It gotta be challenged and resisted.

[Ranjhan]

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Stop judging Islam by western social norms because whether you like it or not Islam is not going to change.

[Sheraz_CT]

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All I know is that Prophet Mohummad (pbuh&up) is infallable..He is the best Prophet and human being... everything He did was to please Allah...i dont care what any mullah or molvi has to say about anything when it comes to Prophet...i do agree that ppl interpret Quran differently but i believe it is said in it that Prophet only says what Allah wants Him to say...not sure which ayat it is in....

so if He married aisha, there must be some maslehat...trust me it was not because of her age...He was married to bibi Khadija and never married anyone during His first marriage with bibi Khadija and she was much older then him.

[lostsoul]

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@Ranjhan

Stop judging Islam by western social norms because whether you like it or not Islam is not going to change.

Whther u like it or not, Islam has different interpretations for different persons all around the world. And u can’t do one bit about it.

Do whatever please u in Afganistan caves or Saudi Arab.

[SpyGuy]

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@skhan

Well you haven’t heard alot of things.

All of the prophet’s (PBUH) marriages after Hazrat Khadija were commanded by God.

mind explaining this part ?

igot confused …

[lostsoul]

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@Code_Red

Dear Lostsoul,

Discussions on every topic (related to religion) are allowed and encouraged here, no matter if it is against the personal beliefs of anyone. The only condition, that participant should focus on the topic and discuss in civilized manner

You will be surprised to know that the very same topic has been discussed here on a number of ocassions, just one example :

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=72735&highlight=Ayesha+age

You can see that discussion went along pretty well and participants shared their views without any censorship. You can find much more relavent information using search facility.

Please note that, I have no intentions to discourage further discussion in this thread. The link is provided in defense of an allegation.

You may continue the discussion

I dunno, how many posts u have deleted from that pas thread, so I can not comment.

Lets see which of my posts u deleted, and why? Do u have that courage to reproduce my posts, and explain y u deleted them?

[PyariCgudia]

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For those of you who say these were commandments by God, wouldn't they fall under revelation, and thus be part of the Quran? Or someone forgot to include them when they were compiling the revelations?

[Seminole]

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^ Doesn't that hold true for everyone who puts hadith as equal to the words of God?

[PyariCgudia]

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hadith are definitely not equal to the words of God. i dont WHAT you're smoking, but saying that what someone reported someone else saying as equivalent to divine words of divine origin is next to blasphemy.

[AQ]

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PCG: there were revelations apart from the revelation of The Book Al -Quran wal Furqaan Al Majeed. That’s where the Ahaadeeeth-e-Qudsi come from too.

Hadhrat Jibrael:as: talked to Hadhrat Muhammad:saw: in all occassions but not everything was included in Quran by the prophet:saw: because it was also told to him about what is part of the book according to Kitaabum Maknoon/Loh-e-Mahfooz …

Take one example, the famous incident of Taif is not part of Quran where an angel was sent with the command of ALLAH :swt: that if Prophet:saw: would’ve wished, City of Taif would’ve been crushed between the mountains.