WARNING: HINDUS CREATE FAKE ISLAMIC WEBSITE !!!

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yeah …yaaars …i went to the site and tried to post some ,…hmmm…i truelly believe,this site will shed more light on islam.infact,being an aspirant person to know about islam,i can find out more about it.but,they have taken extracts from the koran,so nobody can deny that,even mullahs or clergy men.and they have pointed out the ruthless killings carried out by the muslims .i really came to know about the vulgarity of islamic mercanaries or jihadis or fidayeens for the frst time .i do not think all the people worked behind the creation of the site are muslims,but surely they may have got some assistance from muslims or some muslis will be there with them..after all i do not want to know about it.

      i do not want to give them a full mark..i really believe thier site has  torn the feelings of some people.but from the picture they have posted ,one can really see the dimnishing human values among muslims...


      PLS SPARE JEWS FROM THIS......

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Originally posted by Old Monk:
Hey, I think the above definition perfectly fits a Muslim. A Muslim typically accepts anything and everything thats written in the Koran without using his/her own mind/brain to see how far it is practical/ethical in today's context( see what is happening in Afghanistan).
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... a little knowledge is dangerous thing.. at least admit and no one even non-muslims scholars admit that Quran has never changed in more than 1400 years ..its written in one of te most difficult languages in the world Arabic ...but a child 0 7-8 yeras can learn it by heart.. do any other religious book offer this miracle.. name it
..dunno how u joined Quran with Afghanistan.. should I believe all hindus in the world as merciless killers when hindus of upper cast kill hindus of lower casts in Bihar ? there r so many muslims in so many different countries but adhering to Holy Quran..
personally how many percentage of muslims u have found as morally or in any way not fit for society..

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whats going on here can someone explain clearly!!

i am sugar spice and everything nice, before messing with me U better think twice!

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Originally posted by Old Monk:
*You can pass a nasty joke on Jesus and get away with it... *
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Not always. Have you met Christians who are staunch believers of Jesus? Go ahead and insult them about Jesus and bible. Maybe then you will understand the difference between a committed believer and a non-practicing. It's the same with a Hindu. Check any post in GupShup dealing with Hinduism. See how a Hindu feel when his belief is look down upon or insulted.

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try doing the same to anything remotely sacred to Muslims and the first thing you know..you have been issued a fatwa... its the Muslims who carry their religion on their sleeves.
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Not always. Muslim generally doesn't give a damn what a Christian or a Hindu thinks about Islam or our prophet. But it makes a huge difference when a Muslim makes fun of his own religion (Islam).

See Old Monk, there is some things people hold dearly beloved to their hearts such as Parents, Country, religious belief ..etc.

Do you think it's reasonable you make joke and insult other people's religious figure/ belief and expect them to be tolerant?

Its you who have to be the one to be understanding and never insult others about some very fundamental and essential things in life.

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I visited this site http://www.trueislam.4t.com/ and now I have some questions, because my knowledge of Hadiths and Koran Sharif is very minimum.

I dont care about their comments and views as such because those are just their opinions. My questions are:

  1. How accurate are the extracts from the Hadiths and Koran Sharif.

  2. Has some meaning lost in the English translation.

  3. Are they taking the extracts out of context.

Can some one enlighten me? Thanks

[This message has been edited by Tanhaa (edited July 10, 2001).]

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Originally posted by sholay:
In his autobiography, Dr. Charles an American scholar says that it is very simple to define a Hindu. He says a Hindu. he says a Hindu means "one who believes anything and everything if said in the name of God and shall never question its authenticity.

I think this sums it up very neatly!
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Wah! Wah! Wah!!

Here is a guy trying to define a Hindu. Poor Herbert Ellinger, Robert Thrompton and many other Ph. D.s, who spent their life time trying to define who a Hindu is and who isn't.

It is difficult to define a Hindu, these people say, as in Hinduism, everything is acceptable. Questioning Hinduism or hating Hindu gods ("Nindha Sthuthi" in Sanskrit)is also accepted as Hinduism. It is an all encompassing religion.

Poor Indian constitution, unable to define a Hindu, it says, "A Hindu is anybody who is known as Hindu by others"

Srutis (Vedas) say, ** "Anybody who is aware that a god exists" ** is a Hindu.
(PS: Srutis don't use the word 'Hindu'. They refer to these people as followers)

In Hinduism, God is not a person unlike in Chritianity. Nor an entity that demonstrates some behaviour -like love, mercy, as in Islam. In Hinduism, it is defined as *the "supreme consciousness". "Consciousness of the subject" *. Hindu god is NOT an object, unlike Islam or Christianity. It is the Subject.

In essence, ** "Anybody who is AWARE of the phenomenon/entity/person/concept of god is a Hindu". ** You may call it allah or kullah! You may love it or hate it! You may follow it or question it!

Sholay don't show your hatred to define the followers of Hinduism

[This message has been edited by kumarakn (edited July 10, 2001).]

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Sholay, can you quote the book, page and publisher of your charles - the fictitious american man.

or can you give me a web link.

I would like to verify the authenticity of your quote.

You want proofs about herbert ellinger, or anybody else, I can give!

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Allah (SWT) has stated numerous times in the Qu’ran that the Kafir know Islam is the truth and fear it. No wonder they continue to spread this typical misrepresentation of Islam all over websites such as the one mentioned.

Oh disbelievers, beware - the day of judgement is coming and you must then stand before Allah (swt) and explain yourself, your disbelief and your attempts to misrepresent Islam.

We will never compromise our deen Old Monk. Updating and modifying their religions is what condemned the Jewish and Christian faiths - Islam will not suffer the same fate. The ummah was weak, in 1924, when the Islamic state was finally destroyed by the kafir. Since then, many Muslims continue to work hard to re-establish the rule of Allah (swt) on this earth, so that the full glory of Allah (swt) may once again be recognised by all.

Thus Old Monk, we will not update and modify our religion so it fits ‘snuggly’ into western ideals - ideals of kafir and shaitaan - which we know to be false and only false ideals. They mean nothing and are a mere illusion to attract the disbelievers. Islam is the only comprehensive guide for life - at any moment in time. There is no need to ‘up date’ it. Islam is a universal deen, for all time.

The victory will soon be ours, and all Glory is to be Allah’s. Inshallah.

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I visited this site http://www.trueislam.4t.com/ and now I have some questions, because my knowledge of Hadiths and Koran Sharif is very minimum.
I dont care about their comments and views as such because those are just their opinions. My questions are:

  1. How accurate are the extracts from the Hadiths and Koran Sharif.

  2. Has some meaning lost in the English translation.

  3. Are they taking the extracts out of context.

Can some one enlighten me? Thanks

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why don’t you search for those Ayats and Hadith at http://islam.org

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005.085 Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans;

004.116 Allah forgiveth not (The sin of) joining other gods with Him; but He forgiveth whom He pleaseth other sins than this: one who joins other gods with Allah, Hath strayed far, far away (from the right).

004.117 (The Pagans), leaving Him, call but upon female deities: They call but upon satan the persistent rebel!

The Qur'aan has already confirmed that Hindus are one of the biggest enemy's to Islam.

Furthermore, the Qur'aan has also summed up the Hindus:

098.006 Those who reject (Truth), among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures.

008.021 Nor be like those who say, "We hear," but listen not:

008.022 For the worst of beasts in the sight of Allah are the deaf and the dumb,- those who understand not.

Where it has taken years of research to define a Hindu by westerners, the Qur'aan has done the job in a glorious manner and straight to the point!

Therefore no further proof is required!!!!

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Hinduism never bothered to define who is a hindu, because there were no religions when Hinduism came, flowered and matured.

Infact Hinduism never even bothered to have the name "Hinduism" for there was nothing else.

What I worship today was the same they worshipped in the oldest known civilization in the area. God knows when it originally started.

Newer religions and cults, which came up like mushrooms in the recent milleniums, wanted to distinguish themselves from other religions fearing existing banyans.

Hinduism, imho, could have been as rigid as Islam during its first few millenia. But, time has seasoned it to be open (and encouraging) to accept all ideas and slowly it could have become an all assimiliating religion.

It was that evolution that would have helped it to survive.

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this is the link where we can complain to freeservers to pull this site of the web … please take ur time to complain to them…

http://www.freeservers.com/cgi-bin/feedback?option=report_a_violation

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Psst! sholay, waiting on ur web link or publisher reference of this guy Charles.

Otherwise I may have to quote John, smith, Tim, Mike, Bob and George - all great American Scholars

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Dont go to these sites and neither should you advertise them or recommend that people go there and check them out.
As the site gets more hits its counters go up and next time someone does a search on islam this site might come up on the first page as one of the most popular sites, hence letting more and more people getting their information from a fake site.
Bottom line: Dont spend your time spreading the false work/word.

Fayax

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PEOPLE I AM HAPPY TO TELL U THAT I TALKED TO THE HOST OF THE SITE AND THEY PULLED THIS SITE DOWN...

I REPEAT THE SITE HAS BEEN BROUGHT DOWN!!!!

see its really simple instead of just talking about how the site is bad and all we should take action and look wat happened it was shutdown!!

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HERE IS THE EMAIL I GOT BEFORE THE PULLED IT DOWN!!

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